Daily Mail fail

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Have just done the usual check around the papers and wanted mners to respond to a query if you can.

Re Daily Mail: the most important story of the day is not the lead, unsurprisingly, nor anywhere near it. It seems an average day for the Mail. There is the usual celebrity bilge down the right column.

So I was wondering, in terms of news choices and news coverage, what kind of thing is being objected to and on what grounds.

For eg: there's a story about school heads being paid over 100,000 a year. If you really hate the Mail, can you explain why in terms of specific stories.

Thanks. I'm neutral, I read all the papers (well not cover to cover but I get across them all online to get a rounded view.

In case this counts: my chosen paper would be the Telegraph, favoured media the BBC and out of the Guardian and the Indie, I'd take the Indie.

I wonder if anyone will respond!

Very good point point blondepinhead. I don't believe it was any secret. I think they all knew. I think they call it "Westminster gossip", stuff about which the people (the voters), in whose name things are done, haven't got a clue.

Ok, donnie, I stand corrected. I hope your dad reads the Mail and returns Islington to the charming area it undoubtedly used to be, and very possibly still is.

claig, I live in Islington. I also vote Conservative, in the main.

no claig..my dad is still on the council estate and reads the morning star! he is a communist.

leaving this thread now as I can't do dialogue with dimwits.

well done, blondepinhead, for holding the fort. Fortunately the cavalry have arrived. Cameron has swept to power and got rid of that other shower. Hold on, because the tide is turning, the people are learning, Brown has gone and the sea is blue, and the Daily Mail's sales are rising too.

'I can't do dialogue with dimwits'

You sound like Gordon Brown, he didn't like talking to Mrs. Duffy too.

You're made for ech other. Keep voting for them, they're your type of folk.

I like yuor style Claig and it is telling that those who disagree with you have to resort to puerile insults. Pathetic.

One of my good friends is a broadsheet journalist and tells me there is noone more elitist and condescending than the Guardian gang who make a big show of fist waving and being down with the people.

Utter shite.

claig, the tory party didn't actually sweep to power but had to pair up with another party as they didn't get enough votes to rule on thier own. The tory party didn't win the election they got a few more seats than labour. To win an election and sweep into power you need to have an over all majority.

claig why do you write in rhymes? are you preparing for some kind of anti left rally and flag burning ? because actually you sound like a member of the tea party.

thanks moondog. It's not hard to flush out who the real haters and bigots are. It's always the sanctimonious who are the biggest bigots, the po-faced inquisitors convinced that they are right. They brook no disagreement, they can't discuss. They write millions of people off as idiots and bigots, too dimwitted to bother talking to. Their mind is closed, they brook no dissent, they sneer and jeer. They truly are the bigots, I fear.

I like rhymes because I like language. I find rhyming is great fun, just like making puns. I like a cup of tea, I told you I'm a Tory. I also like a party, provided its not the New Labour Party.

ivykaty44, I agree with you. For comic effect, I had to pretend that Cameron swept to power, but of course it sadly wasn't true. But it will happen at the next election, the country will go true blue.

I don't think I'm in the same fort as you, claig. Our local MP is Labour and I think he is fantastic (have met him, think he's doing a really good job of representing our borough). He's got my vote. That's why I said 'in the main'. Should have said on average, but it's a close thing.

The Daily Mail doesn't represent my opinion. No newspaper does - I can think for myself. I will read any and all, from the News of the Screws to the Indy, and local newspapers too. However, from what I've seen the Mail and the Express definitely differ most from my personal opinions. My FIL claims they represent the opinions of 'Little England' - I think he's probably right, although in my own little lefty corner of the world I don't generally come into contact with them.

Agree with everything telsa said on page one.

The daily mail encourages a spirit of personal dissatisfaction by comparison. Whether that's with personal looks and body image in comparison to that of celebs, or personal finances and living standards in comparision to those on benefits, public worker pay in comparison to private worker pay etc etc.

Most of the reporting is completely and overtly biased.

Claig is not for real. Claig is a DM-bot. Weird how some people get their kicks.

Where is the place called 'Little England'? I have never been. I only know of England and everyone's views count. We have equality in the land, and the voters decide. The Daily Mail is the second highest selling paper in England. Is large little is wrong right? In the world of New Labour that's probably right.

I agree with you. You should read all opinions, and I don't agree with everything the Mail says. But unlike you, I am with the large numbers of people, who do agree with much of what it says. But that's democracy, that's why we live in the land of the free. It's not Little England, it's just good old England. A cup of tea, a chocolate biscuit, a copy of the Daily Mail, only New Labour could call that a fail.

Do you know of/read any Theodore Dalrymple Claig? If not, you should. He is a prison pcychiatrist and social commentator who is just brilliant.

Brilliant exposes of the holier than thou left wing brigade who indulge in this onanistic orgy of self congratulation.

thanks moondog. I did used to read him a long time ago, and I remember that he had a good insight. He used to write for one of the papers, but I can't remember which one. You are right, I really should read more of his stuff. He has a lot of inside knowledge. I remember him writing about the drunks and violence that can occur at A&E departments. It was very vivid and disturbing. he had seen it firsthand.

Moondog he is dry in the extreme and gives a vision that there really is no hope left and we are certainly sunk, doomed for ever we will never agian see the sun rise

He hasn't been reading Gordon Brown's speeches on the planet, has he?

No he's been reading your posts on this thread

. In which case he will be very well-informed.

PS Thanks to whoever recommended this book. I've never trusted any part of the media to report the truth without bias, and I have been known to write down only the verifiable facts of a reported story so I can get past the hype . Looking forward to reading this book and becoming even more sceptical about the press :)

'I've never trusted any part of the media to report the truth without bias'

you're right. But what about that book itself? The author used to or still does contribute to the Guardian. Will he mention the Guardian in the "flat earth" category? Or will it be the usual suspects? But it is still a good book as it gives a different perspective on the media and the truth.