Daily Mail fail

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Have just done the usual check around the papers and wanted mners to respond to a query if you can.

Re Daily Mail: the most important story of the day is not the lead, unsurprisingly, nor anywhere near it. It seems an average day for the Mail. There is the usual celebrity bilge down the right column.

So I was wondering, in terms of news choices and news coverage, what kind of thing is being objected to and on what grounds.

For eg: there's a story about school heads being paid over 100,000 a year. If you really hate the Mail, can you explain why in terms of specific stories.

Thanks. I'm neutral, I read all the papers (well not cover to cover but I get across them all online to get a rounded view.

In case this counts: my chosen paper would be the Telegraph, favoured media the BBC and out of the Guardian and the Indie, I'd take the Indie.

I wonder if anyone will respond!

'what is BS?'

sustainability is BS

No, BS is bullshit

why is sustainability bullshit then?

donnie, whole new topic. I don't want to derail this thread and get into that. It is a huge topic that can lead in lots of different directions, all of which eventually end up in a brick wall.

The same brick wall that the spinners sat Humpty Dumpty on, by the way.

Incidentally, claig, re the "millions of people believe it" thing....

1. millions of people believe that climate change is real. So what makes your millions better than those millions?
2. the truth or falsity of a claim is not related to the number of people believing it. It is related to the underlying facts and the power of the explanations

"pop goes the weasel". That probably refers to a shadow cabinet member. Hard to pick one, we are spoilt for choice. Maybe it was Nostradamus who wrote "Humpty Dumpty".

claig what I find weird about your postings are your numerous references to 'the people' - exactly who are your 'people'? and what is your bizarre Humpty Dumpty analogy about?

Yes millions believe it. We will see in time who was right. I am convinced the fraud will be outed and one day they will tell us "oops we got it wrong". But I may be wrong, we will have to wait and see.

I am a Tory, I have faith in the people, I read the people's paper, the Daily Fail. I trust the public, not the twonks. I am like Orwell, I believe that "hope lies with the proles". So I am reassured to see that us proles are shoulder to shoulder in the majority in our belief that climate catastrophe is not real.

I know that spinners, weavers, plonks and twonks prepare all sorts of reason and all sorts of arguments. But I like many of the public know that many of them are just more Bliars.

Humpty Dumpty is Gordon Broon and his fall in the election, due to his spinners misjudging the mood of the people.

The people are the voters. Of course, they also voted for Brown, but I am talking about the majority swing away from Labour. Humpty's spinners misread the public mood, they preached to the converted, they weren't down with the peeps, they were flipping houses and referring to Mrs. Duffy with expletives and bleeps.

claig....the more I read your posts the more I see that you have no idea what you are talking about. You sound like someone who has learned a few phrases off by heat and has got so used to repeating them that you think you wrote them yourself. You keep referring to 'the people' = which people? . And in what way do you align yourself with Orwell exactly? I think you will find it is Winston Smith who believes that hope lies with the proletariat.

Also, why do you say Gordon 'Broon' ? are you taking the piss out of the fact that he is Scottish? what exactly does that add to the weight of your argument?

sorry should have said

"i know that spinners, New Labour sinners, plonks and twonks"

I am just mocking Brown, in the way that he has been mocked many times before by others. Just like I mock Blair by saying Bliar. I am not mocking Scotland or the Scots, I am sure that many Scots have also referred to him as Broon and Doom.

"By the way, none of the examples you've cited were previously mentioned on this thread."

Yes they have, and I added the more general bit. Your bad again. Get some coffee.

it's all these little made up words and cliches you use which make your comments sound so infantile. I expect you say 'elf'n'safety' as well. Just like the nice Mr. Littlejohn.

So much for 'the people'!

Well I think they are funny. But I am that idiot, I read the Daily Mail.

I do occasionally say elf'n'safety, just like Littlejohn and millions of others. I also use the term jobsworf. That's what the people I know do, but I don't move in New Labour Islingtonista circles. i also eat fish and chips, something they would never ever do.

I'm just a Tory, just one of the people, just one of the idiots who reads the Daily Fail.

claig I have just looked at the Maily Mail online and among its stories are loads about celebs and how thin/fat they are plus another close up picture of a women MP and a story about how she is 'showing too much cleavage' for Parliament or something like that. All the other items are linked to the royal wedding (even the Syria one is wedding linked). Is that typical ?

also, the fish and chips thing? what is that all about?

Are you very familiar with Islington? I am.

You sound a bit unhinged to me, claig. Too much vino last night perhaps?

The Daily Mail is a comic book, like The Sun and The Mirror.

Oh and Paul Dacre is part of the Islington elite he pretends to despise. He lives in Barnbsbury, the really posh bit of the borough.

I am not familiar with Islington, but have heard it is the haunt of New labour types. I think it's safer to steer clear, because I don't want to receive a horrific fright. I've heard it's all lattes and dinner pattees and they can't tell wrong from right. I've heard the streets are thronged with spinners and New Labour sinners all shouting and braying on their mobile phones. I've heard they negotiate places in public schools and arrange internships, while laughing at the fools and idiots in the public who read the Daily Fail. I've heard they call the public bigots. I don't think they are my type. I'm just a plain old Tory, I just read the Mail's stories, I'll stick to my fish and chips. I only read the Daily Mail, so I'm not really hip.

'You sound a bit unhinged to me, claig'

I'm not surprised. You probably also though that Mrs. Duffy, from up North, was a bigot.

Just skimread this thread and one thing jumped out at me. The Daily Telegraph paid for the leaked expenses details. It was offered to them by the whistleblower, John Wick. No major investigative journalism was involved. As I remember, it wasn't the only newspaper to have been offered the information, it was just that it was the only paper willing to cough up the asking price.

TBH I felt bad at the time for Heather Brooke, the journalist who spent 5 years trying legally to get full disclosure of MP's expenses which the Telegraph achieved overnight by dropping a wad of cash.

so....you know nothing about Islington except the crap you have heard from the DM, which you believe?

pmsl! you are sooo hoist by your own petard there, claig!!

oh and btw I grew upand went to school in Isso and my dad stilll lives there. I am a council estate girl.

Truthfully? you are talking out of your arse, girl.