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She deserves Prison

90 replies

shalaa · 26/10/2005 21:12

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Can't believe this woman just sat there rolled a fag as this man murdered her baby right in front of her. Don't care how 'scared' she said she was you would do something if this happened. Would rather it happened to me then anything happen to my little boy. She deserves to go to jail.

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expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:56

Nope, puff, it means he must serve at least 13 years.

Someone needs to start a campaign to send him to Barlinnie to see if he lasts the other 10.

puff · 27/10/2005 16:58

at the possibility of him only serving 13 years.

doormat · 27/10/2005 16:59

what a sick skanky bitch

I would kill and I mean kill anyone who harmed my kids

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 16:59

ive just read a book about barlinnie prison. In all seriousness, if i was a man and had commited a crime and was told i was off to barlinnie?- id hope that capital punishment would be re-introduced.

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 17:02

yes doormat- she is a sick skanky bitch, and i bet she never played the "oppressed girlfriend" card until he had killed the baby, so she could get a lesser sentence and get people to feel sorry for her. Vile, horrible bitch.

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:06

agree tiredemma
I just couldnt even imagine just sitting there while watching any child being abused

Mytwopenceworth · 27/10/2005 17:16

I am sure the social workers will come up with all sorts of reasons why she is a victim and I am sure a lot of people will fall for it, but you don't need to be intelligent to feel that biological instinct to protect your young!

I feel like she made a choice - she chose to let her child be the one to be beaten instead of her, whatever her 'reason' for this choice, that is what she did, pure and simple. As a mother, I cannot understand this. You stand between your child and danger. its not something you even have to think about, it's instinctive! All i can think of is my own kids, and how fierce my love for them is (even though they drive me bonkers!). There is nobody on this earth I wouldn't fight to protect my kids. I would take on a drunken, drug fueled mike tyson if he was trying to hurt my kids and I tell you something - I reckon I'd win!!

I know that's not a very liberal view, i know that its not an 'everybody is a victim lets feel sorry for them regardless what they have done' view, but things like this make me so angry. just because someone is physically capable of breeding doesnt automatically mean they should and someone so incapable (and i dont give a rats arse WHY she's incapable) of protecting their child had no business having one.

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 17:17

good post mytwopence.

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:17

there are other women out there who have mental health issues and suffer domestic violence

but do they sit there rolling a fag whilst there baby is being murdered

I am sick to death of these pathetic excuses that come out to save their friggin own skin

there is help out there for everyone who needs it suffering these probs

As for him, he is just nothing but scum, but so is she.

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:20

btw there should be stronger laws to protect all children

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:27

"again if I was scared of my partner and he went on to commit the same crime? I would kill him with my own bare hands. "

But if you were scared of him - you would be too frightened (probably) to do anything to him - that's how women get 'locked' into abusive relationships.

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:32

HQQ sorry but I think that is detrimental to all the abused women out there, the excuse of domestic violence to justify in just sitting there and doing absolutely nothing

as mtpw and others have said it is instinctive to protect your children

btw I was scared of my exh but if he would of touched my kids I would still be in prison now

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:36

so if that's the case - why do some women end up dead at the hands of their partener?? Yes some women are able to get out of abusive relationships - and do so - others are unable (and these are women with no mental health issues). I suspect a combination of mental health issues and domestic violence would make it even harder.

Isn't it funny how we can judge so harshly wihtout knowing all the facts.

Another baby website I used had many a discussion about Angela Cannings (sp) and how evil she was.........then of course it turns out she was innocent - and people suddenly changed their tune.

I'm not saying that this women in question is innocent - I'm simply saying that people are basing their opinions on a media article..............

I'm just glad juries don't decide who's guilty based on the newspaper reports........

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:37

and it wasn't just the excuse of violence - there's the factor of mental health issues.

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 17:39

HQQ, I dont dispute that women get locked into abusive relationships, but i stressed that if my partner hurt my child- not me, that i would kill him, and i would.

If someone is in an abusive relationship and really cannot see no way out of it then fair enough, but there really is no excuse to stand by and watch your child go through the same thing. I dont care what anybody says - any women who allows that to happen is as bad as the abuser.

there is enough help out there.

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:41

so I take it you have been in a phyically violent relationship then tiredemma?

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:41

I realise this HQQ but there is help out there
ss should of kept an eye on her, surely should must have have caseworkers with the mental health issues

where were they, sorry but doing nada

these penpushing shits heads should roll

now and in the future

sorry am on one as I just cant stand anything like this, it makes me rant and angry and sick to the stomach

katierocket · 27/10/2005 17:43

oh what rubbish, you can have no idea, no idea whatsoever of what it turns you into when you are physically and mentally abused every single day for months and months or years and years.
You are not in a position to judge.

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:44

"I realise this HQQ but there is help out there "

Don't dispute that - but if it was the case that every person in a violent relationship was able to get, and use the help quickly and efficiently - we would live in a starkly different world - but they don't - hence the reason women end up in hopsital everyday as a result of the violence - and then go back to it.........

The rest of you last post - I agree with entirely - I suspect if the proper support had been in place we wouldn't have been discussing this today.....

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:45

glad we agree on something HQ

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:47

I know - you'd better a note of it in your diary - doesn't happen often

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 17:48

HQQ, my current relationship is not violent at all although my previous partner was a complete and utter bastard who used to bully and imtimidate people. why do you ask?

HRHQoQ · 27/10/2005 17:50

I ask because opinions on what a women in a physically abusive relationship should/could do can be different from those who haven't experienced it.

doormat · 27/10/2005 17:58

katierocket no I am not in a position to judge but I suffered beatings, intimidation, threats, bullying,broken bones, name calling etc etc for 11 years
but
I would of cut him into a zillion pieces if he touched my kids.
I would not of sat there rolling a fag, I think this aspect makes it more disgusting IMO.

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 17:59

I put up with a lot of crap which only ended when he went to prison and I went to work abroad to get away. Had a child been involved though, there is no way that i would of ever let him abuse my child in the same way that he terrified, terrorised and bullied me, absolutly no way.

I cant feel sorry for andrea bone, i just cant. I feel more for her poor innocent daughter who died after having her head smashed against a wall, while her mum watched.

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