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She deserves Prison

90 replies

shalaa · 26/10/2005 21:12

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Can't believe this woman just sat there rolled a fag as this man murdered her baby right in front of her. Don't care how 'scared' she said she was you would do something if this happened. Would rather it happened to me then anything happen to my little boy. She deserves to go to jail.

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spookylucy · 27/10/2005 15:16

My sil went from one abuser to another.

MrsSpoon · 27/10/2005 15:17

Just looked again, she only got three years. Think you may be right expatinscotland, plenty of childbearing years left.

madmarchscare · 27/10/2005 15:20

I feel for her really, its a sad, sad state of affairs.

albosmum · 27/10/2005 15:41

I just can't believe someone would let that happen and can't understand her state of mind. Very sad, awful and horrific

dropinthe · 27/10/2005 15:42

Spooky-sorry to hear your tale-must make you feel v do be semi-related??

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 15:46

It's too bad she can't be locked up so she will be unable to procreate and cause any more misery for her kids. She's one of those people who needs to be on the Social Services register of EVERY shire and district so that if she falls pregnant again her child will IMMEDIATELY be removed from her custody permanently. She's had 3 chances to be a proper parent.

madmarchscare · 27/10/2005 16:00

See your point expat, but I bet if you asked her she wouldnt have wanted her life to turn out the way it has. Not that thats an excuse for being able to abuse your children. I really dont know what the best thing would be.

NuffSed · 27/10/2005 16:02

tiredemma and others who agree with her - how could you possibly know what you would do if you were in this situation. Have you been there?

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:03

Thing is, she doesn't seem to be making an effort to change, despite attempts to support her in the past.

REALLY wish she'd not have any more kids before someone else gets to endure months of abuse and a cruel, tortous death.

Cannot imagine what that baby went through before she was killed. And to die alone like that, no mummy to cuddle you and take you away from all that badness.

madmarchscare · 27/10/2005 16:09

I think the thoughts for the child (ie, imagining if it were yours subconsiously) affect any reasoning in favour of the abuser.

Im sure there must be some fancy official theory on this.

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:12

Well, yes, she's no longer a child. She must realise not intervening when your partner is abusing your child is wrong, at the very least. She's lost 2 children to state care permanently and witnessed one being murdered, after months of abuse.

Her children, however, have no idea what is happening to them is abuse.

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:13

To me, it doesn't have much to do w/imagining the child is my own subconsiously, more that I was brought up w/the belief that society and therefore government has a moral obligation to do the best it can to protect ALL children - indeed all vulnerable elements of society.

wessexgirl · 27/10/2005 16:13

I think you're right, madmarchscare, as a mother I would hate to find myself on a jury in a case involving child abuse. My emotions would totally get in the way of my reasoning.

After reading the link to this horrible story, it made me think when she said she thought she was 'too soft' on her baby that she thinks this kind of violence is normal. What would you bet that she was brought up in the same kind of environment?

It's incomprehensible and hideous to me, but then I had nice parents and a nice childhood.

I'm not in any way excusing this behaviour though, and I would agree that this woman should never have any more children.

wallopyCOD · 27/10/2005 16:14

sad to be killed for not bbeing able towalk
as if she coudl help it

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:16

Tell me abuot it, cod. This story broke before I had kids and I mean it made grown men weep.

My little girl didn't walk till she was 22 months old. I can't help imagining what could have happened to her - so sweet, so happy - had she been born to a person like Andrea Bone.

madmarchscare · 27/10/2005 16:19

Absolutely, but Im thinking of those who dont have kids often are able to have a more (cant think of the right word) 'unbiased' (totally wrong I know) view.

Just one point and off at a bit of an tangent.

I hate it when I do that as sometimes end up saying things I dont necessarily whole heartedly agree with myself .

I guess this is one of those subjects that has so many angles.

puff · 27/10/2005 16:24

Oh that poor baby .

I hope the monster who did it is having a very hard time in prison.

nuffsaid · 27/10/2005 16:25

Andrea Bone did not kill her child.

Read the report is clearly states that "Bone is suffering from a personality disorder which prevented her from intervening to stop the attack."

She was in an abusive relationship and has a mental health issue that means she could not intervene.

IMO jail is the last place she should be.

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:28

No, she did not. But should people like this continue to procreate? Andrea is 23 and has 2 children permanently removed from her and one lying dead at the hands of her boyfriend to her credit.

tiredemma · 27/10/2005 16:34

Nuffsed, there will never ever be any excuse as to why someone stood by and watched their partner abuse and then go onto murder their child.

She may have been scared of him, he may have dominated the relationship and as she says he was "bigger than her", - again if I was scared of my partner and he went on to commit the same crime? I would kill him with my own bare hands.

A mother protects her children, she doesnt/shouldnt stand by and watch some spineless, bullying bastard kill them.

and ill say again, i hope she spends the rest of her miserable life looking over her shoulders.

Tortington · 27/10/2005 16:48

shes obviously got a mental condition so jail isn't the best place for her.

you cant go sterelising people its a dangerous road for people in power to say who should and who should not be steralised.

its a sociatal failing - if this mother has 2 removed children then i am assuming there will have been strong intervention by ss. if not there is the failing. infact i suspect there is the failing full stop. the support services which this woman should have had failed that child. my view is that this is why the child is dead.

HappyMumof2 · 27/10/2005 16:49

Message withdrawn

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:50

Quite right, hellmouth. Think SS should have taken Carla-Nicole at birth - they may have, but they returned her at any rate and then failed to check up on her.

She has one girl that was removed and later adopted out, and one other child, but don't know what its gender was.

The girl was older than Carla-Nicole, however, so it should have been obvious to them that Andrea had severe problems.

expatinscotland · 27/10/2005 16:51

the boyfriend has nearly been killed in prison twice. unfortunately the guards stepped in, however . . .

hope they transfer him to Barlinnie. he'd REALLY get it there.

puff · 27/10/2005 16:55

I do hope that in his case life imprisonment (which I assume was the sentence) really does mean life.

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