Overnight nursery care, Item on Radio 4 now

[Easy]

Would you leave your child in nursery for 15 hours a day?

No way. TBH I don't think it's healthy to leave kids in nursery more than 6 hours a day, it's too much stimulation for them. Kids of 5 are at school 6 hours a day including lunch, little kids in nurseries longer than 6 hours isn't right to me. Adults are in an office 7-8 hours a day and are desperate to leave at 5pm. Some babies are in nurseries 9 hours a day, I think that's awful.15 hours would be hellish for them.

15 hours is ridiculous.

halloweenhorror - How can parents who work only put there child in for 6 hrs a day?? Or is this another dig at working mothers?

No I wouldn't leave my children in for 15hrs...... mine are in for 9hrs a day 3 days per week..... don't really see the difference between 9 hrs and 6 hrs to the amount of stimulation TBH!!! And I think that is a really strange post.... is 6.5hrs ok? What about 5.5hrs? What is the basis of your theory that 9hrs os too much stimulation?

I was thinking that if an 7-8 hour day in an office/factory/shop is enough for an adult then an even longer day in a nursery must be awful for pre schoolers and babies.

HH - day nurseries are not the same as nursery schools. They provide children with quiet times to allow for naps etc as well as stimulating times. I have had to travel on business on a few occasions at same time as dh. Although my mum has looked after both children, she freely admits it is too much for her. To haev another option where I knew my child would be in a safe, known environment would, for me, be a good thing.

lol HH! My kids have great fun at Day Nursery!!!! And the youngest has a 2 hr nap too. Can't believe you've got the cheek to compare that to working in a factory!

PMSL!

my youngest goes to nursery from 7am to 5.30 pm. Is he affected? no. As a matter of fact he cant wait to get out of our front door each morning.
He has all his mates there, playing games, painting- 2 hour nap. Nothing like my day at work at all.

tbh, i get pissed off when people try to convince me of how appalling it is to send kids to nursery, and even if i could afford to stay at home with the kids, i still wouldnt.

Don't even rise to it Tiredemma. Its nonsense!!

ahhh - yes over stimluation - that would be teh 2hrs of Playstation DS1 andI played earlier this afternoon, and the chucking bricks aroudn the room they're doing at the moment - in between watchin Nick Jnr

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH............

Yes, I'm laughing at the factory comparison too .

My dd is in day nursery for 8 -ish hours a day, she has free play, structured activities, trips to the park and library (depending on the weather), lunch, nap, more play or activities, sometimes another trip out and then some more play. I'm sure it is all very exciting for her - she certainly seems excited when I take her, but I'm not sure how that is more stimulation than the days when I am at home with her, when we do things like shopping, swimming, walks to the park, activities, she plays with her toys etc. Perhaps she should be lying in a darkened room to recover...

But to the OP, no, I wouldn't leave her for 15 hours a day - she goes to nursery because I have to go to work, otherwise she's at home with me. But that said, if her nursery did operate a longer service, then I'd be happier to leave her there than with a babysitter who didn't know her and what she liked, if I had to be somewhere else (which I don't because I haven't been out in about two and a half years now....)

Wow, this thread must hold the record for kicking off in the quickest time.

I only asked!!

And actually I understand HH's viewpoint, but understand the other side of the argument too.

Easy - Are you kidding?? You agree that Day Nursery is comparable to a full shift in a factory?

or that a a few hours playing/napping at nursery is the same as a kid being in school having to actually learn stuff !

I think that 8 or 9 hours at nursery is pretty hard work for a young child, even tho' I know they have naps etc.

But I also fully understand that the full working day is 8 hours long, and with travelling time it isn't possible to collect children earlier.

Lets just say that, without judging ANYONE here, my personal belief is that a child is best with a SAHP, whenever that is possible.

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I've done ALOT of sighing today!

So why are you sighing at me?

you know how some women 'thrive' on combining work with parenting...........well ime some children thrive on that stimluation they get from nurseries - which only the most "perfect mothers" (whatever they are LOL) in the world can recreate.

I know for a fact that DS2 would absolutely ADORED to be at nursery, whereas DS1 at the same age wouldn't have coped.

Different strokes for different folks (and that includes children..........)

I wish my day was only 8 hours long.... sigh.

I think tomorrow I'll go and play at nursery instead (since they are comparable and all).

Could you leave it at 'my personal belief is that my child is better off with a SAHP'? Because saying 'my personal belief is that a child is...' is an attack on parents who use childcare, saying we don't care about what's best for our children.

My personal belief is that the set-up I've got for my child is best for him - I don't feel the need to justify that by insisting everyone should do the same as me.

surely it depends on how old the child is? and for how long each day?
15 hours does indeed seem a very long time to be outside of a home type environment, at a young age.

i personally wouldn't leave my child for 15 hours at nursery, but having said that if the alternative was to leave them at nursery for the day and then off to nannys, friends etc then the continuity of nursery would be preferable.

i would love to be able to send ds2 to a day nursery but cannot afford it, so he goes to my mums, who although not an old nanny at 49y.o isn't an ideal situation as she doesn't cover as many activities as i would like him to have and frequently, 'forgets' to take him to activities i have arranged, so a nursery where i knew what he was doing all day would be preferable (but hey thats a whole other thread!)

No I wouldn't leave my child for 15 hours at nursery.

I don't suppose there are many jobs which would require that either. I expect most overnight nurseries are designed for shiftworkers, who will be working for eight hours same as day workers, but just at a different time.

So presumably their children will be at nursery for about 10 or 11 hours, most of them asleep?

I didn't hear the item but surely we should assume that this provision is there for people who absolutely need it? They are working (and if they weren't would be getting knocked by some people for being on benefit), maybe have to be away, or work overnight or do something that requires that length of childcare.

It's hardly going to be there to give working parents the option of going to the pub after work!!

FFS we don't all have the same choices!

But what it does do , is make it harder for parents to request flexi working times from their employers. If this kind of childcare exists then more demands can be placed on parents in terms of hours.

I agree mykidsmum but unfortunately employers don't always support working parents anyway, and lack of childcare doesn't necessarily change that. As I say. I didn't hear the item - who is providing this sort of childcare anyway?

And FWIW although halloween horror's comparison was a bad one, I do believ that it is the case that some kids are at nursery longer hours than the staff there are allowed to work.