Court backs decision to bar Christian foster couple

[hymie]

Should Christians be stopped from fostering because of their faith/belief?

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Well, not all Christian churches, though.

Look, discrimination on a basis of sex, race, sexual orientation is thought to be wrong by most civilised people.

Of course SS will not want a couple who thinks 5 to 10% of entire world poulation is evil and will go to hell etc to care for a child.

Not sure what is it that makes it hard for you to understand

scurryfunge Mon 28-Feb-11 21:49:12
hymie,
Are you saying that people are picking and choosing which part of Christian bigotry they condemn?

Personally, I would not have any religious person foster or adopt but at the same time I recognise that not all religious folk act upon their prejudices. (this couple chose to voice their bigotry and therefore were a risk to potential foster children).

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That's exactly the point that the news piece is trying to infer.

Religion in the organised sense doesn't condone Homosexuality it passively ignores it when it's not condemning it.

I am neither a Christian.

A BNP supporter.

Or indeed Homophobic.

Assumptions have been made on this thread and your post was the only post that had been thought out and delivered with the right point.

Hymie, I have worked with homeless teenagers for a long time, and being kicked out by a father or stepfather (very rarely a mother, as it happens, I don't know why) is a common reason for a young teen to be on the streets. Fact. Not sure why that makes me bigoted...

Are you a foster carer Hymie? Do you have any knowledge, experience or involvement in either fostering or gay teenagers?

I honestly can't see that the article was insinuating that at all.

It was clear that the issue was the couples homophobic views.

Well it's not really our fault if you consistently fail to explain what your issue is with this, other than talking about PC Gorn Mad, which this truly isn't.

Deoilycart

The experience I have is varied but the experiences I have are such that I don't feel the need to point fingers at just the fathers, other factors kick in.

Like the Mothers too.

I have an opinion on most things it doesn't mean that I am 'Experienced' in the finer detail of them.

still thinking on your response to my question hymie?

Well, as a lesbian adoptive mother I'm obviously not going to agree with you. But the most important thing here is to understand what fostering is about. It's NOT the same as having your own child (whether by birth or adoption). Foster carers have to take children from a wide range of backgrounds and help them come to terms with the crisis they are going through then prepare them for the next stage. This could be a child who is gay, or who has gay parents. A good foster carer will not try to instil their own moral code on this child (though a parent can, of course). This holds true across a wide range of issues. Foster carers have to hold their tongues about all kinds of things - for example, they have to take children for contact visits with abusive and neglectful parents, even when they think that is absolutely not in the child's interests.

People often talk about fostering and adoption as almost the same thing. They are really not.

"homosexuality views" Pretty clear wouldn't you say?

That is the reason they were denied which is absolutely fair enough.

Are you a conspiracy theorist?

BooyFuckingHoo
still thinking on your response to my question hymie?

No you shouldn't just sit a child down and tell him/her that being Gay is ok.

But if he/she asks?

You should tell them that it's perfectly acceptable.

balloonballs
"homosexuality views" Pretty clear wouldn't you say?

Not at all...it clearly states 'Christian' in the headline.

that wasn't my question at all.

come on now, i posted it 3 times you have had plenty of time to read it. try again.

But that's what this couple have said they won't do. So I don't understand this thread

"Would anyone pro-actively say that a homosexual lifestyle was good"

yes why wouldn't i?

just to save you looking for it again

I agree with givemushypeas. If think of my own child, I probably hope that she doesn't grow up to be gay - purely because she would be judged by others in an unpleasant way and I hate the thought of that. I have gay friends and hate the fact that it is STILL something to be kept secret on a personal or professional level in many cases. If she does, I will be will be totally on her side.

If we died and she ended up in the scenario of being brought up with people with this attitude.....I would be horrified and haunting them big time.

BooyFuckingHoo
that wasn't my question at all.

come on now, i posted it 3 times you have had plenty of time to read it. try again.

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You had your answer Boo....try again.

The thing is, Christians come in different types. SO when someone says s/he is a Christian, that in itself is insufficient information. Does the person wish to convey that s/he is someone who actively seeks to live a kind, generous, socially positive life while believing in a particular myth system? Or that s/he is obsessed with condemning homosexualism, campaigning against birth control and trying to get al sorts of books and films banned on the grounds of blasphemy?

it wasn't the answer to my question. you are avoiding answering my question.

Hymie, mothers and fathers are equally capable of being terrible parents, obviously.

Whether by mothers or fathers, many homeless teens (especially boys - I am telling you that boys are disproportionately victims of this, and I care about them, I'm not being all anti-male in my bigotry, MrHymie) end up that way because their sexuality wasn't 'acceptable' at home. That is the relevant bit. If a child of any sex is kicked out for being gay, the last thing they need is a foster 'carer' who cannot tell them that they are 'acceptable' as who they are.

Boo

Why would you sit a child down and explain about Homosexuality?

Unless of course that child is a homosexual?

When children ask a question like that you have to answer them in an honest way.

no, the question is why wouldn't i say that a homosexual life was a good one?

DeOilyCart Mon
Hymie, mothers and fathers are equally capable of being terrible parents, obviously.

Whether by mothers or fathers, many homeless teens (especially boys - I am telling you that boys are disproportionately victims of this, and I care about them, I'm not being all anti-male in my bigotry, MrHymie) end up that way because their sexuality wasn't 'acceptable' at home. That is the relevant bit. If a child of any sex is kicked out for being gay, the last thing they need is a foster 'carer' who cannot tell them that they are 'acceptable' as who they are.

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I absolutely agree with you there DOC....sexuality shouldn't be a catalyst for victimization, especially at home.

Homosexuality isn't a sin and it is not something to be ashamed of...parents who discard their children for those reasons either need to be educated or be ashamed.

I'll say it pro-actively: the homosexual lifestyle is chuffin marvellous.

It's always worked for me, anyway.

BooyFuckingHoo
no, the question is why wouldn't i say that a homosexual life was a good one?

Pro-actively you obviously shouldn't, but that's YOUR choice isn't it?

Now if a child asks if homosexual life is a good one?

How would a heterosexual know that 100% if they have never lived it?