Court backs decision to bar Christian foster couple

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Should Christians be stopped from fostering because of their faith/belief?

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Again right WHAT residential home? How many children under the age of 14 are in group homes? Even teenagers tend to get shoved into a hostel at 16.

Small children are NOT placed in group homes unless they need to be put in secure accomadation and this is very rare mainly due to it costing about 2000 per week.

So the loss of this couple simply means that the children they may have fostered will go to a differen 'decent and suitable home'

I don't know what residential home. Probably more than one . Enough for 8,400 of them that's for sure.

They are NOT the age group this couple were seeking to care for. They are teenagers. Not primary school children.

Placing a young child in a care home would be almost impossible. No manager would sanction it. There are no beds for young children.

It doesnt happen.

Do you want to go and look up the numbers before you explode all over the thread? Might save your shift lock a bit of stress.

5 year olds do not get put in group homes!!!
(unless they have a severe emotional disorder in which case it will be a special unit and because the foster carers couldn't cope with the child)

It will be a toss up between this couple and another foster couple who think being gay is normal and fine, and can provide all the other things this couple can. If I were a social worker I know which couple i'd go for!

swc - you were right about the destructive effect of levelling 'homophobic' at different perspectives, could you now just debate without sniping at some supposed Guardian-related demographic you seem to have issues with?

Hens: you see, I wouldn't think twice about talking to my child about sexuality, or find it hard to 'handle' at all if they were recognising homosexual feelings.

Jeannette Winterson, Oranges are Not The Only Fruit - a young girl growing up lesbian in a Christian household.

All my male gay friends are emphatic that they knew 'something' even if they didn't know what to cal it, but they knew it had to do with feelings fo men, and they knew it made them a bit differnt from what was expected by parents / teachers / children's TV etc etc.

All the 8 year olds of my close aquaintence know about same sex couples and think nothing of it. If an 8 year old told me they thought they were gay I wouldn't start investigating where they got such an idea, it's common understanding now. I wouldn't 'investigate' it any more than I would an 8 year old telling me they were in love with / going to marry a friend of the opposite sex.

www.education.gov.uk/rsgateway/DB/SFR/s000945/sfr21-2010v2.pdf

NO children under 12 - NONE.

Is that clear enough for you?

Rip you are right, but dont expect that to make a difference.

There are children who have multiple / complex disabilities in group homes.

Who is resorting to insults?? Apart from you lot, with your homophobic this and that towards me earlier. Show us the figures.

Until you can produce them I'm happy to assume you're right. I'm a reasonable person.

If they are 5-8, the homosexuality issue isn't going to arise. If they are teenagers, they have a good chance of ending up in a home.

I don't think this is cut and dried. I think all your yelling and screaming is founded in bigotry and ignorance. Note how reasonable and cogent my other posts were. Note the throwing of insults around, and silly childish point scoring even then.

No one is even allowed to express a view that challenges this particular orthodoxy. Am deeply unimpressed -- and unconvinced to boot.

At the end of the day, these people are in the employ of the LA. NO other employee would be entitled to spout these views out loud yet alone act on them, and keep their job. Family is one thing (and I was brought up by rascist/homophobic GPS) but is unacceptable that anyone receiving govt funds for childcare should be of that persuasion.

Looked After doesn not mean a child is in foster care. A child can be classed as Looked After and live at home, with a relative, with friends or with foster carers or in a hostel or supported housing.

The smallest minority live in residental group homes of about 4-6 beds. These children are teenagers.

Do you think I am making this up?

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"NO children under 12 - NONE. Is that clear enough for you?"

This spitting anger in the face of cogency and reason is just embarrassing.

Jesus is sad.

He didn't want them to be Pentecostalists and diss the gays.

He wants everyone to love each other.

I know it doesn't mean they are away from their home a lot are under supervision orders at home etc.

It doesn't change the numbers -- 14 pc of 60,000 is 8,400 in residential care.

Blu there are some children with PMLDs in group homes but it is not the first option. As far as I know this couple had not been approved for children with PMLDs anyway.

rightpissedoff are you getting a little, well, pissed off?

On Radio 4 this morning when asked what they would do if a child said they were gay, they said they would love them out of it (paraphrase).

Hully

What would baby Jesus say?

I wonder if it would be all right if they could say, "we are Pentecostalists and hence think homophiliary is a bit off, but you can think what you like and veer on the poofy side if needs be."

How funny. Spitting anger. Dont flatter yourself. I am sitting calmly on my bed watching Holby City.

You wanted figures. I gave them to you. You ignore them and accuse me of being insulting spitting.

How silly.

I am a foster carer and adopter and a Christian. I am currently studying a module specific to this subject. I am interested and invested. You seem to just want to be right.

Peace

baby Jesus would cry.

SGM - you think? This is a guy that could do weird fish tricks, remember.