Joanna Yeats missing since 17/12/10

[Nando95]

Hi all I am just posting this in order to keep Joannes name in the public domain- This case is very mysterious and so far the police have no real leads although her parents suspect she has been abducted!

The link is below-

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341106/Distraught-parents-Jo-Yeates-plead-help-finding-missing-architect-daughter.html

Hopefully someone has the information needed to bring Joanna hope safe and well- her parents are distraught!

exactly.

Also the newspaper quote said she'd planned to tidy up on Saturday. What if she had. What if she didn't disappear on the Friday but was actually at home on the Saturday and had tidied the flat and something happened after that. Just because the last time she was seen on Friday night doesn't mean that she disappeared on Friday night, esp if her bf was away, there might be good reason why no-one had seen her on Saturday.

very true wannaBe - I thought of that earlier when I read the quote about tidying the flat on the Saturday. If she'd told her parents/friends she was tidying the flat then no-one would probably have expected to see her.

Okay, then what happened to the pizza if she came home Friday night and tidied up on Saturday?

Guess it's really up to the coroner to determine time of death as best he/she can.

Yes but the parents said that they could tell from the state of the flat that she had been abducted - it can't be about whether its clean or untidy. That might tell the last time she had been there but not why she left.

I think from the pictures I've seen the flat was in a converted house so the other people who live there would probably have heard her comings and goings so I think they are probably sure she left on the Friday night.

Although it hasn't been mentioned much there are the reports of screams which the police will have followed up as well.

Regarding contact between them over the wkend, whilst I don't necessarily think it's odd that they didn't call/text alot, I do wonder whether he would've expected her to contact him on Friday eve to confirm that she was home and also to establish that he had made it safely to Sheffield. The weather was pretty rubbish that wkend as I recall.

I don't know whether that makes sense but I know that whilst I'm not one to text/call that much, I would always contact a dp if he'd been driving a distance in poor conditions.

This is so, so sad. Poor woman, to lose a life so young is devestating, even more so knowing she was murdered. What those close to her must be going through I cannot imagine.

The sad truth is we may never know what happened to her, all we, and indeed her family, may ever have is speculation. I hope that's not the case though, I hope the truth is uncovered and that the killer is found and sentanced.

The pizza is odd, you would expect to find some remains of it if only the packaging but I suppose she could have been buying it for someone. My sister will often pick something up for me from work and drop it in to me on her way home as she drives past the end of my road.

Ghoulish speculation. Stop.

Seeker,why do you keep returning to this thread if it bothers you so much?

Because it outrages me that people should behave like this, and I'm hoping that they might think again if reminded that this ia a real life and family, bit an episode of CS!.

I suggest you hide the thread then seeker.

I think the majority of us are well aware that it is a real life that's been taken,and a real family who have had their lives shattered. There's been several references to their loss.

It's natural to discuss such crimes,and this is the 'In The News' section of Mumsnet. Of course a lines can be crossed and we should really stay away from naming any particular individual that we might suspect of this crime.

It may seem ghoulish to some but I suspect that speculation is exactly what the police do too, because in the absence of evidence, speculation is what can lead them to clues.

I haven't been speculating on this thread, but I'm interested because it's local to me and if speculation uncovers the truth then that in turn protects local people either by catching the killer or knowing how he works.

I have been with my dh for more than 20 years but if he is away (which he frequently is) we still speak even if just to say hello once a day. I find it odd that she wasn't reported missing when she hadn't spoken to anyone after the call to her friend during her walk home from the pub on the Friday night. Wouldn't her boyfriend have rung to let her know what time he would be home, for instance?

"if speculation uncovers the truth then that in turn protects local people either by catching the killer or knowing how he works."

Absolutely. Speculation on an internet forum by people in possession of a fraction of the facts of the case is really likely to help catch the killer, isn't it?

I do think people have difficulty distinguishing betewwn legitimate amd morbid curiosity.

Bibbity I have also been with my DH for more than 20 years. He works away a lot. Our custom is that he texts me to say he has arrived, I text back to say glad to hear it and we usually don't communicate again until he walks through the door. For us, this is perfectly normal. Everybody is different.

Of course not everybody does it the way me and dh do. But this is a young couple of the mobile phone generation. I am just commenting that I find it unusual.

but it has been in the news.

The family are still making statements to the press.

It is unrealistic to expect people not to discuss it - not only because these kind of crimes are always a shock and some people will live in the same area as the deceased but also because for most of us it is beyond our comprehension that someone could take the life of another, and a part of us has a desire to understand how/why.

Seems odd for her father to go to the media and say that he he thinks the police aren't telling the family everything they know.

mollieo - I don't think that's odd, that sounds like a grief stricken parent lashing out. I can imagine feeling the same.

I don't know if its standard procedure to keep facts from the parents but I can see the police might do so if they need to keep information secret.

Nothing here that is being discussed hasn't been mentioned elsewhere.

As someone who lives in Bristol and goes out frequently in the area where Joanna disappeared, I am scared. The police aren't saying much other than, 'someone out there knows what happened to Joanna...' Even the BBC says that the police aren't saying much and are just repeating the facts of how/when she was found.

personally think the keys/coat being found at her flat is a red herring as they could have been replaced later.

If as seems very, very likely she was killed by someone she knows then of course the police won't tell the family everything. Am sure that seems incredible to the family - but it's the likliest scenario.

I have been saddened and shocked to read about Joanna's murder and it goes beyond the realms of understanding. I think that is why people & media react the way that they do; with speculation, questions and curiosity. It is human nature to want to understand the unthinkable and unknown, mysteries and things beyond our apparent control drive us to understand to piece the puzzle together. I do hope that an "answer" can be found, although in some ways I dont think the friends and family will ever be able to completely put things together and comprehend. The heartbreak and vulnerability must be huge. I hope that anyone with information will go to the police and help solve some of the questions. I understand that police may be careful with disclosing clues and information so that if someone is charged the evidence and information they give cant be squewed in some way, to fit what has been publicised - thats what I understand anyway. I lost both my parents very suddenly and although not to a crime like this, the shock, disbelief and sense of the "impossible" happening, the drive to understand to make it go away, might explain the behaviour and comments of the family - I certainly didn't make "sense" of things in the immediate aftermath. I really, really hope the family get some more understanding of what happened to their daughter to help with their grief.

If I understand things correctly the Police will often withhold some information in the hope that it will flush the culprit out. They will becysibg psychologists who will have already built up a profile of the likely killer. It may be that they believe he/she could be thriving on the attention the case is getting so by holding back they may be able to lure him/her into giving themselves away.

Look at how brazenly Ian Huntley behaved after killing Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.