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Private education woes

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speedymama · 29/09/2005 16:50

Saw this this

I get the impression he is spoilt and arrogant. I bet his parents would be the first in the queue to criticise a state school that had to deal with unruly pupils like him and use it as the reason why they had to privately educate their precious off-spring

PS I have nothing against private education, just don't like some of the haughty attitudes that go with it

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happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 16:54

I am so pleased that they court upheld the school, otherwise I could see the floodgates opening for all the excluded kids. many of whom are excluded for damn good reasons.

The parents should have made this kid realise that actions have consequences not tried to excuse his poor behaviour.

We have had some awful kids try to get into the sixthform who seem honestly surprised that we will not accept them, and this after years of persistant disruption and bad behaviour. They realy think that we will take them on for another two years of hell for the staff and disruped education for the good, hard working kids.

Socci · 29/09/2005 17:14

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happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 17:16

This form the BBC website

'A pupil fighting expulsion from a public school had an "appalling" behaviour record and once told a police officer he was "scum", a court heard. '

I think says a little about his mind set, that was when he was being assested for being drunk and disorderly at the age of 13. Obviously not a happy little chappy

Socci · 29/09/2005 17:23

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donnie · 29/09/2005 18:13

there was an interview with both of them in one of the broadsheets a week or so ago socci and believe me they came across as arrogant and also rather dimwitted. More money than sense it would seem.....

RedZuleika · 29/09/2005 18:30

Did I just hear on the radio that one of his misdemeanours was exposing himself?? Or did I imagine that???

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speedymama · 29/09/2005 19:03

Socci
"The court had been told how Rhys, who was punished for more than 400 misdemeanours during his time at the school, had been arrested aged just 13 for being drunk and disorderly.

As he was detained he verbally abused a police officer, swearing at him and calling him an "idiot".

One of the criticisms that is always levelled at state schools is the low level disruptive behaviour that teachers have to endure. Just goes to show that private schools are not immune from it either. I just think if your parents are going to pay £22000 per annum for your education, the least you can do is behave yourself. His father is rich, he knows that he does not have to worry about any future career and thinks he can do what he likes and get away for it. Funny thing is though, he has been signed up by a modelling agency because of his looks (saw it in a newspaper article a few weeks ago). I suspect that truculence is also a much sort after qualification for that career path.

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happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 20:37

Found this on the Grauniad Education pages

'PC Martin and a colleague arrested Rhys as he was incapable of looking after himself, the court heard.

While waiting to be picked up by a police van, Rhys shouted at the officers, "Police are all fucking scum", according to the statement.

When the officers confiscated his mobile phone telling him that he could not answer a phone call because he was under arrest he then "started flailing his hands around", and had to be handcuffed.

Rhys reacted by saying: "Why the fuck have you handcuffed me, you are just so fucking scum", said the police statement.

The teenager continued: "That's assault, you're fucking in so much fucking trouble. The last time I was drunk, the police just asked me who I was and who my dad was and when they found out they just fucked off and let me go.

"My dad had sued the police twice, you're in so much fucking trouble". The statement notes that PC Martin told Rhys that his behaviour was an "absolute disgrace".'

So I think on ballence that I would agree with speedymama that he does seem to be rather arrogant. I wouldn't let him into my sixthform classes with that attitude.

Gobbledigook · 29/09/2005 20:42

What a pleasant boy!

Earlybird · 29/09/2005 20:45

I read about this about a week ago today. The part of the story that caught my eye, is that there is another brother in the family who is named Harley!! Not exactly a blueblood sort of name, I would have thought!!

happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 20:45

One to be proud ofdon't you think.

Now, if myds acted like that I would ground him till he was about 40

This little charmers dad goes to court to say that the school was discriminating against his sone.

And does anyone wonder why the kid ended up that way? Shame the dad didn't spend a little more time trying to get his son to behave and a little less time and money trying to excuse his dreadful behaviour.

yoyo · 29/09/2005 20:48

The boy's Housemaster commented on the father's attitude in an article yesterday. Not exactly the role model you would want.

Gobbledigook · 29/09/2005 20:49

God I'm rolling my eyes hmb - what chance do authorities stand (police or teachers) when the parents haven't got a clue? Dear, dear me.

He needs a clip round the ear!

happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 20:53

Awful , it is just so neglectful. You don't do your kids any favours if you don't teach them how to behave....we all know this, it isn't exactly rocket science is it? He'll be great in a job. 'I don't like you Fuck off' That will be you sacked then!

I've been reading a thread on what is the worst think a child has ever said to you on the TES website. Fair makes your hair curl. makes the kids I teach seem like angels.

Socci · 29/09/2005 20:58

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happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 21:02

The thing that gets me about kids like him is that they realy think that you will let them do your subject at sixth form. So having wasted 5 years in school, taking up a disproportionate amount of your time and nerous energy, to the detriment of everyone else in the class, they think that they will get to swan into the sixth form and do it all over again.

The most awful kids try it on. Even those who have spent most of their previous school like skiving off lessons! And they looked shocked and amazed when you tell them that they cant do your subject because you are not prepared to teach them. They don't seem to grasp that education post 16 is not compusory....we don't have to take 'em anymore.

yoyo · 29/09/2005 21:06

There is an interview with the father here .

happymerryberries · 29/09/2005 21:10

That interview begs the question, why the hell did he send the kid there if he didn't agree with the ethos?

What a fool!

roisin · 29/09/2005 21:26

The thing that shocked me in that interview was the journalist's story of his son being "expelled" from school at 5, because they dared to question the school's policy on playtimes

Earlybird · 29/09/2005 22:28

BBC News have just reported that the father has found another school for the son (didn't say which one), but that if it didn't work out, things might still be just fine for Rhys (the son), because he's been offered a modelling contract!!

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speedymama · 29/09/2005 23:47

The boy has no respect for authoritative figures and reading that article in the Guardian, no wonder. Too many parents abdicate responsibility for their off-spring's appalling behaviour and blame everybody but themselves. I have twin DS (age 19 months) and I think (probably naively) that if you raise them to respect and abide by the rules at school, on the whole, for most reasonable kids,they will do so (obviously making allowance for the inevitable teenage rebellion phase which is part of growing up). I certainly respected the rules, even at my school which some would now describe as a poorly performing school.
I wonder what his mother makes of it all? Probably too busy in the nail parlours to even care!

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Tortington · 30/09/2005 00:19

lol@nail parlours!!

i think the boy is misunderstood.

happymerryberries · 30/09/2005 06:29

Misunderstood my arse!

Parp....there I parped myself !

slug · 30/09/2005 08:54

happymerryberries, I love the look on the face of one particular horror when he came to re-enrol. 'You have to take me it's the law' he said. I looked at his date of birth and said 'No we don't'. He had a tantrum of Katrina proportions and had to be escorted out by security guards, but at least that was the last we ever saw of him. For those of you who are interested, this is what we have to put up with

Stilltrue · 30/09/2005 12:37

Silly boy; stupid and arrogant father. The whole case was just ridiculous, and now MrG will have to pay the school's not inconsiderable legal costs.

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