Chav names make your kids thick!!

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Anyone seen this in the MAil today (read at work!!)

Seemingly government research has found that kids with middle class names like KAtherine and Duncan do 8 times better in school than Waynes, Dwaines etc..

Some teachers have said that PAiges are the worst girls of all and that the following names arose the following comments:

Adrienne (kiss of death - spiteful, sneaky or both), Alanna, Ashleigh, Britney, Candice, Chantelle (spawn of the devil), Chelsie, Chelseigh, Chloe (nasty, spiteful).

Cindy (always a pain in the a**e) Courtney, Cortnee, Cortnie (trouble), Danielle (a nightmare), Jade, Jodie, Jordan (pretty bad for a girl), Kayleigh (a pain), Keeley, Keira (live in fear), Kimberley, Kylie, Leanne, Leigh, Lou-Lou,

Mia, Paige, Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright), Stacey, Tyler (lesson disrupter).

And these are the boys' names that the teachers most fear: Ashley, Chayse, Conor, Connor (a nightmare), Curtis, Damon, Declan, Dillon/Dylan, Dwayne (a terror), Grant, Jordan, Josh (arrogant, nasty, selfish.

Kade, Kane, Kieron, Kyle (always spells trouble), Liam (always a bad lad), Mason (a horror), Mitchell, Myles, Painton, Rhys / Reece (a nightmare), Ryan, Scott (live in fear), Shane (a terror), Troy, Tyler (lesson disrupter), Wayne (a terror).

What do you think?

I know a Chantelle and yes its true!!

well lockets I did too so where did you go to school?

well then its not the same one as mine!!!

Amusing.
I was still teaching when pregnant with DD1 so went out of our way to pick a name that I had not come across teaching to avoid name association. Also made an effort to pick an "old" name to avoid that thing that happens when names get seen as uber trendy for a while and naff the next year..and what happens? her name now crops up in an article like this oh well. We like it and don?t give too monkeys abotu anyone else. Does not have unusual spelling and only one other in her school shares it.

I think that all names can hold images for teachers - the worst two boys I ever ever taught (1 went to jail, the other expelled numerous times and left school early to persue his lucrative career dealing...) were called Sam and James (or "MrJ" to his friends ho ho)!!! How normal are those names and yet when I hear them on other kids I immediately think of those two even though it was years ago!
Worst girls I ever taught was a Sarah and Imogen. Both spiteful little cows and would never name my children using these - despite them being pretty names.

It's not Government research, as has already been mentioned. It's a teachers' web forum so not to be taken seriously - a bit like MN.

It wasn't calling all the names "chavvy" either.

Hey Ragtaggle - I'm not scared to use the word common!

(Bit hesitant about using the word chav though!)

Ragtaggle, I've been saying that about the word Chav for ages and not many people have agreed with me. It certainly isn't mean affectionately imo. I didn't know Danielle was considered chavvy (for want of a better word) though, surely not?

I'd better not let my FIL ever know about this thread. He had a heated argument with DH when our son was born as, according to him, we'd given him a ridiculous name and (these are his words):

• he was embarrassed to tell his friends what he was called
• how is our DS supposed to get a job in the future as no-one will interview him
• it's too Irish and we're not Catholics or have any Irish links so why?
• it's not a proper name

I was sooooooooo angry, the angriest I've ever been in my life. His ignorance was astounding not to mention his arrogance (never considered that my family might have Irish connections)

If you're wondering about the name, we called him Finn. He was the main character in a Scottish book I read at school. The 'proper' spelling is Fionn as it is a gaelic name (either Irish or Scottish) and is the male equivalent of Fiona. As the most famous Finn was Finn McCuill the Irish hero and giant (depending on which story you read) it is more associated with being Irish and possibly where the word Fenian is derived from as followers of Finn.

All that aside, I'd never condem anyone for what name they choose for their child after what I went through, whether folk are chavvy or not!

Pagan, I love the name Finn we considered it for our DS (Caleb). My grandma went round telling everyone we had named our son 'Colon', yes gran we named our son after part of the bowel!!

I know of someone whose daughter is called Jersey. I couldn't help wondering if she'd have more children and call them Sweater and Pullover!! I don't know of any Dylans up here, probably because it's similar to a local term, dillon ie a numpty. It's interesting how local cultures affect aspects of life.

i agree with you WWW

ragtaggle - agree entirely about the word "chav", hence not posting on this thread until the hilarious "unique names" ideas came up.

Pagan, my son was nearly called Finn for exactly same reason (if we had had a girl, she would have been called Tallis after Talisien) BUT when he was born, he was so large, I worried he would get called Fat Finn all his life!(Course he turned out skinny, so might have been nicknamed Skinny Finny by now

Just goes to show bad teachers mark down kids for no sensible reason at all and create self fulfilling prophercies no doubt they write negative reports based on their bias which stay for ever with that child through out school

My friends called their son Finn, but FIL and MIL (who are very religious) misheard and thought they'd called him Sin as a way of rebelling against the religious upbringing my friend had. FIL/MIL were devastated and didn't know what they were going to tell their friends
Friends were very tempted to play along for a while!

have a word with yourself gothicmama and read the teachers' posts more carefully.

I've already said that you DO briefly imagine what you're in for when you see your class lists but that is soon taken over by the children themselves, and the way they behave. Names soon fade into the background when teaching gets under way.

Names ARE a label and they all have social connotations for everyone - but not all the connotations will be the same, of course; it depends on your own background, prejudices and experiences. I LOVE my dds' names even though someone else here has said they sound 'weak' to her as they end in a 'y' sound. Big deal - I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist about it; vive la difference!

Doesn't everyone make assuptions about a person before they've met simply on the basis of their name? Those assumptions don't last once you get to know the person if they are unfounded though.

own upm who didn't snigger at the thought of Lisa Minge being a gynaecologist?

You can't help reacting briefly to a name. Acting on it would make you unproffesional

Pagan at your FIL.

My ILs didn't like a couple of my names (fairly unusual) and nor did my parents. They wouldn't dare be so rude though.

I don't tell people what I'm thinking of calling my babies nowadays, I just wait until it's official then reveal it. It's such a personal thing and I find negativity about it quite hurtful.

I find the predictable middle class 'nice' names just as unappealling as the so-called 'chavvy' names simply because there are so many of them around.

I have a fairly common name and I always wanted a more unusual name when I was a child.

Lol Jodee have been waiting for you to notice this thread.

Please note the other name is Jodie, so obviously no reflection on you

Thanks Cam! It's soooo obvious that the "ee" in my name is much more classy and my acting is far from wooden, it's much more hammy!