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Michael Gove, to slash £162m of sports funding in English schools

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legostuckinmyhoover · 21/11/2010 08:58

Just when is he going to stop. This man has absolutely no idea. And, they keep on saying...'we are not cutting schools budgets...honest!'' Hmm

www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/nov/20/michael-gove-schools-sport-funding

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stoatsrevenge · 21/11/2010 16:59
Hmm I hadn't heard that the money was being reallocated to the NHS.

Perhaps the banks could show that they are committed to the big society and privately find school sports.

stoatsrevenge · 21/11/2010 16:59

not find! fund!!

sincitylover · 21/11/2010 18:16

in most private schools sport is heavily promoted and played, their facilities are generally way above most state schools. and it's part of a well rounded education - being academic or learning three rs and playing sport is not mutually exlusive.

So it is important and should not be left to the private sector - actually it makes me feel quite sick to think of them becomng involved in state school sports.

I want my taxes to go to creating a better society and I look beyond my own little family and environment. Its called being a part of society.

What I hope is that Big Society rises up and bites the current government on the arse. We live in hope.

Also the last labour government were pretty right of centre imo.

And its been repeated before but it's not just Britain who is suffering its many other countries run by all shades of government. So to continually heap all the blame on the last government is simply not correct.

daftpunk · 21/11/2010 18:35

The gap between the rich and poor actually grew under Labour, they left us with a mountain of unsustainable debt, and fighting a war we'll never win > they were - in a word - Crap.

jodevizes · 21/11/2010 18:52

Far too much taxpayers money being spent on sport. Schools, olymoics everywhere. If schools want some sport, let some of thos rich football players put their grubby little hands in their pockets and do something good for a change.

Appletrees · 21/11/2010 18:53

It's bloody awful.

Appletrees · 21/11/2010 18:54

No I mean cutting it is awful! unfortunate juxtaposition there!

ClenchedBottom · 21/11/2010 19:06

" Unlike the progressives, he cares about the children in state schools. " claig

Surprised that no-one else has been laughing hysterically at this.

Big team where I work about to lose their jobs - supporting schools in developing their provision for pupils with SEN. Team of hardworking, experienced, knowledgeable and committed people. I'm struggling to see how this fits with Gove caring about children in state schools........

ClenchedBottom · 21/11/2010 19:07

Sorry, I know that's not about PE!

Incidentally Riven, that's disgusting and you're right, they won't have a leg to stand on with DDA....

mrz · 21/11/2010 19:10

legostuckinmyhoover Sun 21-Nov-10 08:58:44 Just when is he going to stop. This man has absolutely no idea. And, they keep on saying...'we are not cutting schools budgets...honest!'' hmm
see that's where you are confused lego it isnt a cut it is a new concept they have introduced called negative increases which means ... well we get less Hmm

numotre · 21/11/2010 19:43

The schools budget recieved a 0.1% increase overall but that doesn't mean that no part of that budget will be cut in order to allow the Government to put into another

Hassled · 21/11/2010 19:57

The whole "schools' budgets will be ringfenced/slightly increased" spin is a total red herring - while we'll get a slight increase, everything else that directly affects state school children - not just sports but Parent Support Advisors and the Extended Schools initiatives - are going. The tiny bit of extra money will never compensate for that.

duckyfuzz · 21/11/2010 19:59

The whole white paper looks set to undermine years if progress

expatinscotland · 21/11/2010 20:02

'I know this is tax payers money - but I'd far rather the money go on the NHS -more help for the disabled and elderly etc'

And you think this government is going to do that?

PMSL.

You've seen Billy Elliot too many times.

daftpunk · 21/11/2010 20:16

Hmm - well, let's just wait and see

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/11/2010 20:18

"You've seen Billy Elliot too many times."

Grin

mind I see that sport has now incrased from "running round a field" to "the gym" Hmm

You do realise that if sports/PE isn't done much in school there's going to be fewer teachers running those expensive out of school classes that the rich deserve...........

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/11/2010 20:19

and I see you STILL haven't answered my point about rich children having a wide range of future career possibilities ad the poor being left to "academic" ones........

daftpunk · 21/11/2010 20:27

Do you know what "anhedonia" means?

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/11/2010 20:48

yes......

stoatsrevenge · 21/11/2010 23:03

Recently heard the budgets of 2 local PRU are being cut by 25% !!! Sad Apparently their budgets come from a different pot. That must have a severe effect on staffing, and therefore outreach for children who really need it.

moondog · 21/11/2010 23:18

'Vixel - because you end up with companies getting millions of pounds worth of publicity and creating 'brand awareness' amongst children who may not be old enough or experienced enough to critique the company and the information they are supplying. Children are supposed to be at school to be educated, not fed propaganda from big (or small) business.'

Edam, what a simplistic and paranoid view of the world you have. This at one end of the spectrum so in your opinion better to just throw state money at this stuff in a vague 'feelgood' manner.

Like Daft says, schools are there primarily to teach academic skills, not to save the world. Some of you will be arguing next that it's 'the government's' remit to wipe your backsides.

Success and participation in sport is not contingent on a never ending stream of £££££. Neither is anything else for that matter.

sarah293 · 22/11/2010 08:33

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Litchick · 22/11/2010 11:28

Sports are usually very important at independent schools.
Here on MNet that fact is usually given a Hmm, and parents who pay told they are wasting their money because after school and weekend clubs are the way to go.

But that's for another thread, I guess...

For what it's worth, I do think sport should have importance in any education be it independent or state.
Good teaching is important. Some choice ( though I don't see why kids need to be offered a smorgasboard )including competitive and non competitive. And plenty outside.

So I'm against this proposal.

Litchick · 22/11/2010 11:34

That said, I don't believe that poor children are unable to access any outside sport.

Almost every village and town has a footie club. Ours has sub fees of £17 per year, which can be waived. Kit is free (sponsored - DS has never even noticed what it says LOL). Footie boots and shin pads are always passed down as feet grow.The training session is free and walkable to anyone living in the village.
Lifts are always available for matches.

Ditto running club. £20 per year. Held in the middle of town. No equipment whatsoever needed. Lifts always available. If fixtures are away, we usually put on a bus which we get our sponsor to pay for so free to runners.

nagynolonger · 22/11/2010 11:44

DS came home last week and said that his secondary school is closing it's swimming pool to cut costs......It is a fairly crap pool it must be said. But it is used out of school hours for swimming lessons/club, and because it's a rural area it is the only nearby pool. The whole community will miss it.

I can't really get enthused about the schools olympics.

Fortunately mine do lots of sport after school and at weekends. I, like Mr Gove can afford to pay for it. I feel sorry for those that can't.

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