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Michael Gove, to slash £162m of sports funding in English schools

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legostuckinmyhoover · 21/11/2010 08:58

Just when is he going to stop. This man has absolutely no idea. And, they keep on saying...'we are not cutting schools budgets...honest!'' Hmm

www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/nov/20/michael-gove-schools-sport-funding

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edam · 21/11/2010 14:34

Vixel - because the children will be encouraged to believe that the company is 'good' in some way, and react more favourably to that company and its products than a competitors - and it's PR. The Sellafield activity probably wouldn't allow unbiased discussion of the issues around nuclear power and even if it did, the children would have been softened up to believe that BNF is a 'good' company that cares about the community. If you go to the Apple Mac Academy, you are more likely to purchase their products than Dell's.

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grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 14:47

Vixel, presumably if the government put the same amount of money into all state schools the result would be the same?

In which case shouldn't it be the government that pays for it, rather than private companies that can buy in or out as they please? What happens if a company that is supporting a school goes bust? That would not be allowed to happen, so the government would bail them out anyway. So the taxpayers' money would have to be used in the end ...

Basically it boils down to whether we want to live in a democracy or a global company. There are many problem with democracy but at least the government has to try to get enough people on side in order to bring in any reforms.

As I see it, the problem with giving so much power to private companies is that they can bully us into agreeing to do whatever they want: 'Teach creationism/pepsi politics/Macmadness or we won't build your new science block' sort of thing.

harpsichordcarrier · 21/11/2010 14:49

well said, belgianbun. I think it's interesting that that post focuses on what MUST be OUR personal concerns for OUR OWN CHILDREN.
I can only assume that the poster in question can't quite make the leap of imagination that we might be, in fact, concerned for OTHER PEOPLE and have a perspective beyond our OWN FAMILY.
Yes, really. I know it is an astonishing idea but some of us actually care about the well-being of children who are not related to us and who we have never met.

grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 14:50

And what Edam said!

grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 15:07

Why would a private company want to sponsor a school or sports team? There must be some whacking great advantages for them - they're business people after all.

vixel · 21/11/2010 15:11

It is a form of corporate philanthropy

daftpunk · 21/11/2010 15:20

I'm just sick of people expecting the state to pay for everything - schools are there to educate our children - not to offer some sort of Centre Parcs experience.

You expect too much.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/11/2010 15:25

so you think that poor people only deserve "academic" careers then and if they're not academic tough shit their parents should have earned more money?

legostuckinmyhoover · 21/11/2010 15:26

PE...that stands for Physical Education.

That is 'education' as in 'education' right? You know, the physical sort of education. Like RE is Religious Education. It is all education.

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daftpunk · 21/11/2010 15:43

Religious education is important - we need to understand the way various religions work in order to understand people both individually and politically.

I don't need to know how to put a trampoline together.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/11/2010 15:47

Hmm- we did lots of PE when I was at school - funnily enough "how to put a trampoline together" was never covered.

daftpunk · 21/11/2010 15:50

What did you learn ?

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/11/2010 15:55

probably very similar to what you learnt (unless you're telling me you really did learn hot to put a trampoline together in PE Wink)

stoatsrevenge · 21/11/2010 15:57

daftpunk
Schools are there to educate children how to become sociable, creative, healthy, moral, literate adults.

corblimeymadam · 21/11/2010 16:13

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grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 16:16

Daftpunk: 'I'm just sick of people expecting the state to pay for everything'. Where does the state get its money?

The state doesn't give us anything. We pay for it.

You could ask yourself why you would want to pay taxes if the state doesn't spend them on education, health care etc. Because if private companies take over, what will our taxes go to pay for?

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grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 16:17

Riven: Angry

grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 16:18

X posted, Riven. Angry about your daughter!

sarah293 · 21/11/2010 16:22

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corblimeymadam · 21/11/2010 16:25

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grannieonabike · 21/11/2010 16:25

Good luck, Riven, you are a true warrior (I often read your posts). What's the DDA?

daftpunk · 21/11/2010 16:55

When the country is on it's knees like it is now we have to prioritise our spending.
If money is tight in an individual household you look at any non-essentials that you can cut back on - like gym membership.

I know this is tax payers money - but I'd far rather the money go on the NHS -more help for the disabled and elderly etc .
Fit healthy children can get by without 162 million worth of sports funding.

Belgianbun; I know education isn't just about the 3 r's - but times are hard atm and cuts have to be made somewhere.

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