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Pupils' right to one-to-one catch-up tuition ended

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telsa · 12/11/2010 09:07

Oh great. First they come for the students......and then the little ones.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11718968

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telsa · 12/11/2010 09:08

sorry- meant to link:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11718968

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bubbleOseven · 12/11/2010 09:41

my son had this - i thought is was a shocking use of taxpayers money to be honest.

And an outrageous luxury! Seriously, one to one tuition for UK pupils funded by the taxpayer Shock

daftpunk · 12/11/2010 09:42

Fantastic news.

singersgirl · 12/11/2010 09:45

But all state school education is funded by the taxpayer. I'm always curious about what the taxpayer is not funding Hmm.

Why is it a bad idea to give an extra boost to children at critical times in the hope of enabling them to better access the curriculum, achieve better grades and overall possibly give them better life chances? I'm not saying one-to-one tuition is necessarily the best and most cost effective way to do it, but it seems odd to object to it being funded by the taxpayer.

LilyBolero · 12/11/2010 09:47

So children who are failing can fall through the cracks? If you have a class of 30 with one child who is really struggling, that child will NEED one-to-one, but a headteacher will be able to sacrifice that child's basic education because now the child is not guaranteed help.

bubbleOseven · 12/11/2010 09:48

My son was 12 when he got this last year so this wasn't a critical time for him.

Also,his grade at the end of the year after he had private tuition was lower than his grade at the start of the year before he even had any.

Just a blatent attempt to buy the middle class vote if you ask me.

daftpunk · 12/11/2010 09:54

If you'd rather spend your time watching Jeremy Kyle than talking and engaging with your kids - you've only got yourselves to blame when they start school barely able to count to 10. Don't expect the tax payer to fund your private tutor.... pay for one yourself.

LilyBolero · 12/11/2010 10:12

I so fundamentally disagree with daftpunk and bubbleOseven - fwiw, none of my children have ever needed this, they are all high-achievers, but I have seen how kids, particularly summer-born boys REALLY struggle - it's not their (or their parents') fault that they are 11 months younger than some of the children in their class, and without intervention, these kids really can fall through the cracks. If your parents work, there is precious little time to do the 'reading recovery' which is needed, and which I have seen make MASSIVE amounts of difference - it helps them when they need the help, which then enables them to access the rest of the curriculum.

Or perhaps education isn't about teaching children to read?

daftpunk · 12/11/2010 10:42

Parents are responsible for their children first and foremost. I'm sick of the blame culture and pathetic parents standing there all wide eyed and pitiful saying things like - " it's not my fault my kids are thick "
Well it ain't my fault either. I send my kids to school to be educated, not be to in some sort of social workers convention.
You want a private tutor - you pay for it.

2shoes · 12/11/2010 10:45

I agree with DP(just not so angrily)
when you look at some of the really hard cuts I think this one is something that at the end of the day parents should stump up for, if you work and can't help your child, then use some of your wages to pay someone else too. at the end of the day there isn't the money for this stuff.

huddspur · 12/11/2010 10:46

What the coaltion is doing is giving headteachers some control over how a section of their budget is spent. If headteachers think this is worthwhile then they will be able to spend the money on one to one tuition but they can spend it on something else if they think it would be of greater benefit.
Education like so many things is over-centralised and we should trust and allow headteachers to know whats best for their school and pupils.

gherkinwithapurplemerkin · 12/11/2010 10:49

Not surprising.

My employer (sec school) is going to have to make some teachers redundant this year, so all extras such as this are bound to go.

ClenchedBottom · 12/11/2010 10:49

Goodness me daftpunk, what a charming approach.

So the 1-to-1 tuition I've seen used with severely dyslexic pupils (to good effect, actually) - what, it's their parents fault for not paying for private tutors? These children live in areas of social deprivation where parents are already struggling financially, how are they supposed to fund it? - And before you say it, in many cases the parents are dyslexic too (the condition has a genetic basis) so would struggle to help their children effectively themselves, although they do their best....

daftpunk · 12/11/2010 10:50

Labour are not in charge anymore - and hopefully never will be again. They seriously couldn't run a piss up in a brewery.

ClenchedBottom · 12/11/2010 10:50

Headteachers will probably use the money to fund TA hours instead, despite the evidence that TAs in class as an extra pair of eyes/ears/hands have no impact on outcomes for pupils.

Litchick · 12/11/2010 10:54

That's what I thought, hudd, that the money will still be there if the HT wants to spend it.
Rather than a HT being forced to spend it on one-to-one if he/she doesn't think it appropriate.

A bit like schools being forced to put a set % of pupils on the G&T register, whether those puplis really merit it or not.

Or are we now saying the government knows exactly what is best in every school in the land?

Litchick · 12/11/2010 10:55

Why would they do that then Clenched?

And why do you say they're no use?

ClenchedBottom · 12/11/2010 10:55

Heads weren't forced to have the money and spend it though, they had to apply for it for the relevant pupils.

ClenchedBottom · 12/11/2010 10:56

Because an army of TAs is popular with teachers and parents alike.
And the evidence suggests that, when used in this way, they do not have an impact on outcomes for pupils.

Litchick · 12/11/2010 10:57

No, but they could only spend it on one-to-one couldn't they?
Not on any other initiative they thought might benefit their pupils?

Litchick · 12/11/2010 10:59

I didn't know that Clenched.

I guess I just assumed that TAs were helpful...and extra pair of hands and all that.

I volunteer in a school where the TA is mostly off sick and often the class is bedlam.

Decorhate · 12/11/2010 11:01

So by daftpunks logic, children must be punished for any failings of their parents Hmm

Yes you could argue that parents could just do some extra homework with their children but in Real Life, not all parents are able or willing to do this and also, many children will do work with an adult at school that they are just too tired or bolshie to do for their parents in the evening...

ClenchedBottom · 12/11/2010 11:03

It is really nice to have a TA in class as an extra pair of hands, I'm not disputing that at all - but only when TAs are used in far more specific ways do they have a measurable impact on pupil outcomes.

ClenchedBottom · 12/11/2010 11:04

Anyway, funding in schools is going to be tight as it is, with huge pressure on anything currently provided by LAs, so ignore me - I'm feeling cross and vulnerable. And then I read something like daftpunk's rant and it winds me up.

huddspur · 12/11/2010 11:09

clenched- do you not trust headteachers to do the best for their pupils more than some bureaucrat in the Department of Education

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