Hahahaha: Cameron says sorry to mums headline in tomorrow's papers

[WilfShelf]

'Sorry. We somehow forgot to mention we were removing the one benefit which universally protects women and children from some of the many financial inequities they face. But hey, we're elected now for five years and there's fuck all you can do about it...'

'But don't worry, as long as you haven't had the shame and disgrace of being abandoned to care for your kids by someone who refuses to pay his way, you'll be able to claw back a few quid a year in tax just so long as you get married. And those of you who do earn HRT, you can get EVEN MORE back...'

'I think you'll all find that's fair, no?'

He lied. What did you expect? Are you Tory, LibDem voters happy now?

I too agree with the principle of the cut of child benefit to higher earners, I just think that it should be linked to household income and with a possible dispensation for single parents.

That's the bit I really don't get. This could have been such a positive thing for them and they've turned it into this sodding mess.

Beenbeta I do not we'd like to throw vegetable at you, more like that liar Cameron.

Willshelf I am so grateful you started this thread. I have been seething all day. Not about my own child benefit, but about people earning twice as much as us and still getting it.

I'll have to find the Charlie Brooker thing you mentioned.

I voted Lib Dem, and have since the Iraq war because I was so furious about it. I longed for Gordon to climb down and apologise for it so I could vote for him, but he never did. I felt dreadful when I saw him getting kicked out (even though my Lib Dem vote didn't count for that as Labour won the seat anyway), but I thought the Tories would be a bit wet and a bit crap and be replaced soon enough.

I had NO IDEA that they were still as bad as Thatcher or worse. I was completely naive. I thought Cameron was a bit of a sap. I now see they are are evil, lying bastards and I'm so shocked at what they're doing and the barefaced completely unhidden retrogressive agenda they have - to shit on women, the disadvantaged and the poor from a great height. And why the bloody hell aren't the senior Lib Dems more upset about it? If I was Nick Clegg I would be saying hang on a minute, sod this for a game of soldiers, you lied, this is not fair and our support ends here, Tory boy.

I just hope this crappy coalition will go tits up sooner rather than later and the entire country will say come back Labour, all is forgiven (because they will). I can vote Labour now too because Ed has said what I needed to hear about Iraq. I liked David for leader, but I'm glad Ed said that.

I love Charlie Brooker

BigTeuchLittleTeuch I have just sent a relatively short and straightforward email.I could not find a template.

Latest headline - 'your country needs you' says David Cameron. That makes me want to puke!

Apparently I need to 'step up and play my part'. How patronising.

Like that's not what I've been doing anyway, because (I'm one of those sad SAHM who is just an extension of her husband's belongings, apparently...) as I am at home with the kids I am able to volunteer my spare time helping other parents - sorry Dave but you weren't the first one to think of the Big Society, its what most volunteers do quietly all day every day, and what most of us parents do as well, helping each other with raising our kids... I really don't need a Conservative toff telling me how to help others!

rant over!

Yes, your country needs you to take a hit UNLESS you are stinking rich in which case, as you were.

I'm going to start a small business training unemployed people in sales skills and paper management. I'll also encourage them to set up 'green offices' outside shopping centres and get them involved in civic projects reusing cardboard for furniture - namely beds - if it's good enough for the littlest Cameron it's good enough for my trainees. I think it's important that in the 'big society' there are enough people selling magazines to discuss the 'big issues'.

For my sins, I am working poor...and voted tory. Didn't realy mater, as I'm in a lib dem safe seat but I thought Gordon Brown had fucked us over with the 20% tax debacle, the Lib Dems didn't appear to have any policies at all on the issues that mattered to me, and I believed the tories. Labour came into power when I was 15, and I have to say, before then, I hadn't paid any attention to politics. In fact it wasn't until this election that I was registered to vote, as I was in (temporary) homeless accommodation during the election in between. So Sue me for being too young to really remember what the tories were like before.

I certainly won't be voting for the bunch of lying toss-pot born with silver spoons in their mouths don't understand what real life s like bastards in the next election!

Yes I think that is the problem Loudlass, that many who voted didn't remember what the Tories were like.

Those that did though and are not rich, well, it beggars belief.

Could I just say [entirely unapropos of thread overall] that while everyone was applauding my droning on wonderful post, that I hadn't noticed that Pfftthemagicdragon made EXACTLY the same point I did some posts before. Had I read it, I would have simply said:

'Wot Pfft said with knobs on '

trying to unite the country .......we are united alright just not the way you'd like it

UP THE REVOLUTION!

PoFakked you really make me despair. Are you honestly saying that after 7 years you though Iraq was the deciding factor for your vote rather than the pretty pressing issue of the economy and cuts? This is why I despair at my fellow female sex when it comes to elections.
I dont think we have seen anything yet. Those of you with kids at nursery are also likely to have to pay top up fees. If you remember Cameron did not rule this out before the election, in fact he was encouraging private nurseries to put top up fees on top of the 3/4 year old free places.

you despair at your 'fellow female sex' ?

VOMIT

of course he understands - it does affect us ALL

Doobydo I was the same, and in retrospect maybe I wish I had voted Labour for other reasons, but Iraq wasn't the ONLY thing I could get my head around. However, it was important. We were lied to, we capitulated to the US, and in doing so we made the terrorist and extremist situation so, so much worse and that still affects us now, in spades. We TOLD the government in mass protests that we did not want that war, we are not idiots, it was bloody obvious they were pulling a fast one, but they ignored us. It has been pretty comprehensively agreed by those with the power to say so that it was an illegal and baseless war. So yes I did want an apology and I don't think that really has much to do with me being a dappy airhead woman.

Wilf

I think it is worth saying twice - the idea that you just vote and then put your fingers in your ears and go "lalalala I can't hear you" is just bizarre

One problem with Iraq was that it turned them into a government that was no longer listened to by its core of supporters. (Well, lots of things did, but that was the big one I think.) They handled it so very badly by not responding well enough. TB really lost it over the months of ignoring protests.

I flirted with the idea of voting Libdem. Our candidate was a dead loss, though (28, thought the way out of the benefits trap was the Duke of Edinburgh award ) - MIg yours was much better, properly viable as an MP iirc.

Yes I would have been OK with my Lib Dem candidate being my Lib Dem MP, IYSWIM - aside from the coalition issue.

However I did think if they ended up with power as a minority party, they would use it to exert some control in favour of their stated party policies! (More fool me...) Nick Clegg out to be made to watch a video of every single time he said "progressive" during the campaign. All this crap could not be less progressive if it was a coalition led by Thatcher, Hitler and Pol Pot.

out I meant ought

I wonder if - rather than it being a case of 'The Tory bastards can't be tamed by the LibDems' - it might be true that things would be worse without them in government...
(I guess we'll find out in twenty years or so when it's Coalition Night on BBC4Sky.)

Unprune Coalition Night on BBC4Sky sent shivers down my spine.

Will I suppose we can take heart from the fact that a new generation might be radicalised. Those too young to have experienced the visceral hatred many felt for Thatcher can now feel it for Cameron.

I think that Ed Miliband may well show that he has the backbone to stand up to the Tories and I HOPE he keeps his left leaning stance, it's my only crumb of comfort at the moment.

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