And now they're introducing a tax break for married couples!

[LadyBiscuit]

So not only do higher earning lone parents not get CB when the couple next door will still be eligible, they will also get a tax reward for being married.

BBC story

They really don't like single parents do they?

I am just waiting for the Daily Mail implosion when they realise it applies to civil partnerships too though. Which of course I would support, if I supported the principle in the first place (of tax breaks for particular kinds of relationship). Which I don't.

But I DO SO look forward to the right wing frothing at the mouth.

noddyholder Hi, with respect genuinely meant, I am not misinformed about this.
I know that as regards the benefits system a couple can be 'treated as married' but, legally they are not.

So please I am actually in agreement with you as regards the injustice of this.
I too find it outrageous that the govt can effectively pick and choose to treat people as married when suits and not when it doesn't.
They do it to save money.
Take the widow's benefit-isn't it funny (not) how people aren't 'treated as married' when it comes to this? .

If the tories actually said that only marriage had worth and that cohabitation didn't BUT then cohabitees were, from now on, were to be seen as single individuals in their own right as regards the benefits system, perhaps I'd have a bit of respect for this marriage tax idea (which I think will come to nothing anyway)but, no, that won't happen.

Eff it all, anyway, treat everyone as individuals in their own right- f* what their spouse/ partner earns.
Do people drag along a partner at 7am to go to work? No, they do not. People WORK as individuals therefore they should be TREATED as individuals.
I am aware that this will not happen, though.

Now I don;t disagree with you mara on what the stats say (we've discussed this before when I was Peachy); but '
And people think it's 'nonsense' when it is suggested that married couples are more likely to stay together than cohabitees?

Of course they are! Marriage carries risk of losing a lot of money, cohabitation can just be walked out of and apart from financial provision for children and divvying up of JOINTLY- owned assets, there need be no OTHER loss of monies.

isn;t quite right?

becuase surely knowing that your aprtner is free to walk away makes you (or vice versa) more at risk of losing a lot of money etc? When I left the ex it was well worth it but I lost everything bar £300 from five years of relationship.

In a marriage I know that I automatically ahve some protection no matter what happens, if that makes sense?

I hate social engineering, which is what this is. Politicians need to keep their noses out of peoples love life's and not reward or punish those choices.

It's so infuriating: as someone with a low income, I'd have no personal allowance to transfer; but family income could still be below the 2x£43k.

I lost out when on abolition of the 10p tax rate.

And I am VERY angry with Clarke for spouting off about the principle of "independent taxation" as the reason not to assess CB on household income, when mine is damned well affected by that of DH (and all CTC claimants).

STILL not clear about HRP either.

grrr again at the widows benefit

picnic at parliment? a family style protest..
We have to fight for our rights and that if the children we bring up in an ordered manner.
If you want more information go to
www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Parents-for-fair-child-benefit-changes/165509730131588

I've started a thread so we can plan some kind of protest. please come and join us here (crosses fingers and hopes link works)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/1057521-so-if-we-really-are-all-in-it-together-let

What's happened with Wodow's benefit sorry?- briefly scanned thread and can't find it, but I do ahve a badsly stimming 10 year old, toddler trying to play with me and a 7 year old waiitng for his SN transport lying face sown in a sofa screeching LMAO......distracting