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Shocked by this

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saadia · 06/09/2005 22:44

{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4220716.stm} what does "previous good character" have to do with it???

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myturn · 06/09/2005 22:46

here

Skate · 06/09/2005 22:46

here?

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saadia · 06/09/2005 22:47

try again
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Skate · 06/09/2005 22:47

What on earth is the world coming to? Absolutely shocking and sad.

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saadia · 06/09/2005 22:48

thanks myturn and skate - xposted

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tabitha · 06/09/2005 22:48

Found it - yes, it is shocking

myturn · 06/09/2005 22:48

Great, page cannot be found!! Sorry.

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myturn · 06/09/2005 22:49

Absolutely awful

Aero · 06/09/2005 22:50

Truly shocking! Makes me worry for what lies ahead as my children grow older!

robinia · 06/09/2005 22:57

I think the point may be that the three boys that admitted involvement were not actually the most guilty parties (although were present) and that other boys were far more culpable but wouldn't admit to it. Which would explain why the victim was unable to identify the three. Not saying that the three should have got away with no punishment though.

Carmenere · 07/09/2005 12:01

One of the main things wrong with out of control teens is that there are very few consequences for them. How do young adults learn what is acceptable behaviour when they get away with doing whatever they want?

SleepySuzy · 07/09/2005 12:03

OMG!!

NomDePlume · 07/09/2005 12:04

OMG ! I used to live in Tonge Fold, just around the corner

Lizzylou · 07/09/2005 12:05

Absolutely disgusting!
I worry so much about things like these for when my DS gets older...I just want to go and live on a remote island somewhere......

Tessiebear · 07/09/2005 12:06
Shock
Wordsmith · 07/09/2005 12:06

Eh? What planet are those police on?

Lillypond · 07/09/2005 12:37

Thats just awful. Must have been terrifying for him.

expatinscotland · 07/09/2005 12:40

WTF? What next? So if you kill someone and say, 'Yeah, I admit I did it' you get off?!

Angeliz · 07/09/2005 12:42

Unbeleivable!
It makes me worry too Aero, having children makes you so vulnerable!

Twiglett · 07/09/2005 12:46

hang on

don't 'mobs' have ringleaders who would be most to blame?

yes they are all guilty and should be punished but to me it almost makes sense that those who were previously of good character and might just have been going along with the flow, heinous though it might be, have learnt a huge lesson and had the character to admit their involvement

I think something needs to be done, but I'm with the police that they cannot charge those who admitted it in isolation because what lesson does that send?

Hulababy · 07/09/2005 12:57

No punishment = no consequences. Nothing to stop they doing it again now then?!

It's appalling. They may not have been the ringleaders, but they WERE involved. they should have had some real and meaningful punishment, even if it was to just scare them into never doing anything like this again.

Of course the lad couln't identify them. They had put a mask on him so his vision was limited, he was scared senseless no doubt. In such circumstamces I doubt I'd have been able to either.

Poor lad I really hope he can get over this.

Hulababy · 07/09/2005 12:59

But Twiglett - they admitted they committed a crime, therefore they should get SOME punishment surely?

3 others admisitted something...keep asking them. Punish them for what they did admit to, and make sure they know the full consequences if they do anything like it again or they ever hear they did do it.

By being so light on these kids - it sends out a much worse message to others I think.

Lizzylou · 07/09/2005 13:03

I'm with you, Hulababy, on this. Where is the justice? How would you feel as that poor lads parent that those youths were walking around unpunished? What on earth will stop them doing it again?

Chandra · 07/09/2005 13:11

I believe if you happily cheer a person who is about to comit a crime without stopping him or at least atempting to, makes you an accomplice and therefore also guilty to a some extent. And agree, police has their hands tied with regards to children but I believe that was not a choice of their own...

I think that there has to be something very wrong in how we educate our children, there'ws a deep degree of cruelty in this act (and unfortunately, acts like this are becoming increasingly common), it's not as if they just wanted to harm the child, it seems as if they were willing and prepared to enjoy the suffering of a young person.
And I'm sure that most of these children's mothers are at home trying to convinve themselves that their children were not doing anything wrong, that they just were passing by when the incident was discovered... yeah right!!

robinia · 07/09/2005 13:12

I am with you to a certain extent but worry that those who admit it get punished and those who don't get away scot free - where's the justice in that? And we also don't know to what extent the ones that admitted it were involved.

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