What do yo think of Williamn Hague's statement re his marriage, miscarriages etc

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Prince Andrew isn't gay either. He has two daughters to prove it.

"For the record, Hitler was NOT a vegetarian."

While he wasn't a committed vegetarian for his whole life he almost certainly was was for at least the latter part of his life and there is evidence for it.

There's information here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_vegetarianism

I shall have to disagree BTino. He shared a room (note room, not bed) with a friend and colleague. Woohoo. Shocking? NO! A news worthy story? NO! Many pther peope do it? YES!

It is a total NON story about two male friends and collagaues sharing a twin room.

Silly season for the news - happens every year around this time.

Hullygully, it was his 'special' friend who advised him to wear a baseball cap and sunglasses, which Hague removed when he saw the Press photographer.

You cannot look at those pictures and say that his 'special' friend at least is not gay.

rofl @ the idea that you can tell whether someone is gay or straight just by looking at a picture of them!

"Is it just me, but I don't get how this has become a story."

A top Tory politician has broken his own party guidelines and employed twice as many "special advisers" as they recommend, and twice as many as his Labour predecessors.

Furthermore the fourth advisor is young and seemingly under qualified.

That is the story.

William Hague is trying to bury this by dragging his wife into it.

"The media really don't have any other news right now do they? Are they really so desperate?"

If anyone's desperate it's Hague who in reaction to the stories about his fourth advisor has thrown his wife and her health to the wolves.

"I would imagine WH has only given details out because the media has behaved so appallingly."

Appallingly?

By questioning what he's spending our money on?

"Politics actually is completely irrelevant to this story IMO."

Politics is very very relevant to this story. William Hague is the one who's trying very hard to take the politics out of it and turn it into a sob story about his family.

Hulababy, Mr Hague has not shared a room with any other members of staff or that would have been mentioned in his defence. He shared a room with this man before he even became a special advisor. Then he helped to get him a job that was unnecessary, bypassing most procedures to do so.

Mr Hague is not a stupid man I wouldn't have thought, he would have known about the internet rumours before now, he would know how it would look if it got out, yet he still made a decision to share a twin bedroom with a man who looks like he just stepped out of Gay Weekly.

"It is a total NON story about two male friends and collagaues sharing a twin room."

No, it's a story about a politician employing numerous advisers, one of whom is seemingly very under qualified, breaking his own party guidelines and then rather than answering and explaining he tries to distract people with personal details about his wife's miscarriages.

"As his relationship with Gordon Brown grew worse, Tony Blair turned to alcohol. He began drinking every day while in power and started to rely on alcohol as a 'support'

He writes: 'I was clearly at the limit. A whisky or a gin and tonic before dinner, then one or two glasses of wine, even a half-bottle.

Blair admitted that he used alcohol as a 'prop' to escape from the pressures of being Prime Minister.

He insisted that he was not an 'excessively excessive' drinker and always believed he was in control of his alcohol intake.

But he confessed: 'You have to be honest: it's a drug, there's no getting away from it."

it sounds to me that Blair is claiming that he had an alcohol problem when his love-in with Brown faded. But personally, I don't believe what Blair is saying, he needs to fill his memoirs with something that will hit the headlines. What gives the game away is when he says 'You have to be honest'.
I never believed that Blair was 'a straight kind of guy'.

How very dare you

Why is everyone so obsessed with the alleged miscarriages? They are entirely irrelevant.

You can't say, look, stop calling me gay just because I shared a room with a gorgeous pouting young special adviser half my age and my wife has miscarried you know.

It's nonsense. And hilarious.

"If the miscarriage story is a lie it's a hell of a gamble"

I don't think anyone is saying that it's a lie.

Rather people are saying "why would he drag that out into the public rather than just answer the questions?"

Who said he is lying about his wife's miscarriages? I'm sure they are trying for children and I don't doubt for a second that Ffion has suffered a lot of pain. We are just questioning why he feels the need to mention that when justifying why he shared a hotel room with a 25 year old man who he then pulled strings for to employ as yet another special advisor despite already having 2.

If Mr Myers hadn't resigned would this story have made it to the media?

I do agree that the real story here is hiring a young, under-qualified, under-experienced, additional adviser at taxpayers' expense (hereinafter referred to as HAYUQUEAA@TE -- and that's being lost in the whole "is he or isn't he gay?" thing. Annoyingly the sexuality question is sort of relevant because there is a difference between HAYUQUEAA@TE someone just out of a sense of self-importance or doing it because you are having a sexual relationship with them. One is potentially crap and shows a lack of awareness, while the other is a deceptive misuse of public funds. But if the only reason for making the sexuality allegations is "well, look at him in those photographs, he must be gay" and "well, they shared a twin room" then it's not something that should be raised.

It's like dear old gay vegetarian Hitler saying, ok, I may have murdered one or two people here and there, but Eva has a bad foot, you know.

You are omitting the hypocrisy, Professor.

"and I suffer from depression"

Yes, just the other day I had to slice open a rugby player's lip/ murder several old ladies/ share a room with the gorgeous pouting one, but I am depressed and have a bit of a toothache.

The only real issue that's any of our business is that this young chap was given a plum post for which he was not at all qualified, and that's the one thing no one in the media seems interested in covering. Sleeping arrangements are not really to the point.

I feel desperately for the Hagues, but the revelation about the miscarriages is slightly odd: it doesn't prove or disprove the insinuations about his sexuality. Ffion has lost all privacy over that for no good reason as far as I can see, and my heart goes out to her.

So how very dare you have a go at me in my vulnerable state.

Do you really thing Ffion isn't entirely privy to her own life?

Hullygully is right. This is a story because of potential hypocrisy, not because of funds for special advisers. Nick Robinson, an experienced political commentator, has said that this is one of the most extraodinary statements he has ever heard from a senior politician. If this doesn't stifle the rumours and if more comes out and Hague is shown to have lied, then this will spell the end of Hague's career. That is why it is a huge and extraordinary story.

Yes but the poor young chap did have to shared a room with the balding Yorkshireman and may have even had to listen to his whining voice droning on about his marriage problems all night. So you can't say there wasn't a price to pay.

I shudder to even mention anything else happening to that hotel room. The poor man needs our money for counselling.