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Christmas is coming and the dust bunnies are getting fat.... slatterns and list-makers , all are welcome!

991 replies

awastingamanger · 04/12/2009 21:03

If you need to write down lists and have a friendly chat, please feel free to join us!

OP posts:
JustKeepSwimming · 20/01/2010 09:32

Well done Wasting

Morning everyone

Wed:

  • all up & breakfasted DONE
  • all dressed DS1Done
  • DS1 to pre-sch DONE
  • bath & get dressed
  • DS2 dressed
  • go to Argos to collect present for DS2 bday
  • other jobs?
  • collect ds1
  • lunch
  • ds2 nap
  • Asda trip
  • Doc appt for me
  • tea x 3
  • boys bath & bed
  • I'm going out bowling with orchestra

Ongoing:

  • get photos of family & hang them up
  • get on with friend's family tree
  • transfer all family trees over to Mac software
  • then go through 1911 census
  • sort out security light outside
  • clean carpets (get someone in?)
  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • read book from library about 'brain plasticity'
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • clear email inbox (7)
  • Big List (kitchen cupboards sort out, big bedding sort out)
  • return any borrowed stuff (DVDs, books, etc) 1Done
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • organise anything needed for DS2 birthday (Thurs) Got Candle DoneCard (get cake today with ds1)
  • deliver baby card & present
Alibabaandthe40nappies · 20/01/2010 10:15

Morning everyone

Lie in this morning, DS and I didn't wake up until 9.30! I got nothing done yesterday afternoon so lots to do today.
It's snowing again, grrrrrrrrrr.

TODAY
Me and DH up - done
Shower and dressed
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins - done
Unload dishwasher - done
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done
Reload and run dishwasher - done
Make beds and tidy upstairs
Wipe over bathroom
Lunch and tidy kitchen
Dinner x 3
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Kitchen clear before bed
Take ADs

LAUNDRY
2 loads of other washing
Fold clean laundry
Put away clean things from airing cupboard
Wash nappies

CLEANING TODAY
Major tidy up in living room and dining room
Dust downstairs
Hoover downstairs
Hoover stairs

cikecaka · 20/01/2010 10:33

TO DO
Everyone up DONE
Make Lunches DONE
Everyone to school/work DONE
Collect DD3
Washing
Make Lunch
Wash Breakfast Dishes
Clean Counters
Sweep Floors

SITTING ROOM

Pull out TV unit DONE
Clear rubbish behind it DONE
Clean TV stand thoroughly DONE
Check Wii to see if it is working
Sort through Blue Basket DONE
Declutter side table DONE
Pull out small couch
Clear rubbish behind it
Sort 2 crates of toys/shoes 1 Crate DONE
Take stickers off the wall DONE
Pull out big couch
Clear behind it
Sort out alcove
Seperate toys/ Move some upstairs
Wash Floor thoroughly
Wash Door
Wash Walls where stickers were

JustKeepSwimming · 20/01/2010 10:39

Oh no Ali, where are you?

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 20/01/2010 10:46

JKS - Hampshire. We've got almost an inch already in just an hour!

I was v.sceptical about counselling but actually found it very helpful. If nothing else you can just pour it all out without being worried about upsetting/worrying/boring the person opposite!

JustKeepSwimming · 20/01/2010 12:10

You're right Ali, i will see how it goes.

An Inch? crikey!

Wed:

  • all up & breakfasted DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DONE
  • bath & get dressed DONE
  • DS2 dressed DONE
  • go to Argos to collect present for DS2 bday DONE
  • other jobs? B&QForTorches & SortOutHighchairStraps
  • swap over bathmats & towels DONE
  • window cleaner here
  • collect ds1
  • lunch
  • ds2 nap
  • Asda trip
  • Doc appt for me
  • tea x 3
  • boys bath & bed
  • I'm going out bowling with orchestra

Ongoing:

  • get photos of family & hang them up
  • get on with friend's family tree
  • transfer all family trees over to Mac software
  • then go through 1911 census
  • sort out security light outside
  • clean carpets (get someone in?)
  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • read book from library about 'brain plasticity'
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • clear email inbox (7)
  • Big List (kitchen cupboards sort out, big bedding sort out)
  • return any borrowed stuff (DVDs, books, etc) 1Done
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs (after today)
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • organise anything needed for DS2 birthday (Tomorrow) Got Candle DoneCard GotPresent (get cake today with ds1)
  • deliver baby card & present
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD
Alibabaandthe40nappies · 20/01/2010 12:42

Snow has pretty much stopped and looks like it will melt quite quickly, I don't think it is freezing here.

TODAY
Me and DH up - done
Shower and dressed - done
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins - done
Unload dishwasher - done
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done
Reload and run dishwasher - done
Make beds and tidy upstairs - done
Wipe over bathroom - done
Sort through underwear drawer - done
Lunch and tidy kitchen
Meal plan for the weekend
Dinner x 3
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Try new vanish carpet cleaning stuff
Kitchen clear before bed
Take ADs

LAUNDRY
2 loads of other washing - 1washing
Fold clean laundry - 2loadsdone
Put away clean things from airing cupboard - done
Wash nappies
Clean towels and bathmat out

CLEANING TODAY
Major tidy up in living room and dining room - started
Dust downstairs
Hoover downstairs
Hoover stairs

wastingaway · 20/01/2010 13:26

Afternoon! DS woke me at 9.45, and it was 11 before we got going. Wednesdays are traditional lie-in days. I've missed them.

No snow here.

Hope it goes well JKS.

  • all up, dressed, teethbrushed done
  • beds made, windows and curtains open done
  • condensation patrol done
  • spatone + OJ done
  • breakfast done
  • laundry - nappies rinsing dry washing folded hang up, put another load in
  • coffee and internets doing
  • researching doing
  • lunch
  • walk
  • take rubbish and recycling out
  • tea
  • tidy downstairs
  • DS bath and bed + wipe round bathroom
  • is the kitchen cleared?
  • ready for the morning? bag packed?
  • ?

DIY jobs -

  • paint front door - 1 coat inside, 1 coat outside
  • pictures and clocks up DSroomdone
  • rehang bedroom curtains
  • open painted-shut window in bedroom
  • shelves and rails up in kitchen
  • cabinet up in bathroom (tricky - partition wall)
  • mirror up in bathroom
  • polyfilla holes in landing window frame
  • fix wardrobe door
  • get new curtains for front room

To Do -

  • mend my winter coat
  • order compost bin researching
  • get a 2nd green box
  • filing - new folder/dividers etc.?
  • can I buy another shelf for oven? err not sure, found a number to ring
  • need new bedding
  • plan Christmas 2010
Jolene2 · 20/01/2010 15:08

Hello everyone

I'm being supremely hopeless today, barely done anything - visit to osteopath and need to feed DS2 on the way there and on the way home kind of ate into the day. I have put washing on and done a few emails etc but that is about it and now it's only a short time til school pick up so..... Can't face typing out my very extensive 'to do' list as there is still so much to do! Will be braver tomorow

My main thing is that I must try to knit Shaun the Sheep's head again this evening. DS1 very disappointed whenever he asks me about S's progress (only knitted body so far and that was a mission..). Poor boy.

JKS - I've had counselling, it really helped me get through a bad patch. Good luck.

Ali - more snow, DS1 would be most jealous. He's desperate for it snow here again.

Jolene2 · 20/01/2010 15:11

Oh yes, JKS: re trouble getting to sleep. I've found it hard to switch off sometimes so I've been using Rescue Remedy night time spray. I think I got it from Boots. It seems to work. Origins also do a pillow spray which works brilliantly but gave me freaky dreams so I gave up on that though I know various people who swear by it.

FreakoidOrganisoid · 20/01/2010 15:21

Afternoon

I was a good girl yesterday and did all my ironing and putting away Banished dc upstairs to kill each other play and watched a couple of episodes of lost while I did it (yep I'm back on lost!)

Yep soda crystals rule for cleanng ovens, and anythng else yucky!

Alice definitely men that make bedrooms smell, mine just smells lovely and fragrant of girly things now!

We had about 5 flakes of snow but then it turned to rain.

Have different contact lenses to trial, same prescription but they make me feel a bit spaced out and headachey and vision doesn't seem as good. Bit wierd they are supposed to be better?

All up, dressed, breakfasted - DONE
Washing up - DONE
Wipe kitchen sides and dining table ? DONE
Load of washing in ? DONE
Load of washing hung up ? DONE
DD to preschool ? DONE
Book fence men ?
Hoover downstairs ?
Clean loo ? DONE
Clean bathroom sink ? DONE
Book window cleaner ?
Phone preschool to see how dd is - DONE
Lunch ? DONE
Go to supermarket ? DONE
Pick up dd ? DONE EARLY
EXERCISE ?
DRINK MORE (not alcohol!) ?
File the pile ?
Recycling pile into box- DONE
Cook dinner ?
Wash up -
Bath and bed dc?s-
Tidy kitchen and sitting room -

JustKeepSwimming · 20/01/2010 16:01

Freakoid - they don't sound good.

Jolene - have tried the night time RR but it hasn't worked for me.

Counselling was ok, ish, have made another appt for 3 weeks time though i was happy to leave it, he wanted to see me again before signing me off.
Though he did say it was very nice to see someone who was siling

Wed:

  • all up & breakfasted DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DONE
  • bath & get dressed DONE
  • DS2 dressed DONE
  • go to Argos to collect present for DS2 bday DONE
  • other jobs? B&QForTorches & SortOutHighchairStraps
  • swap over bathmats & towels DONE
  • window cleaner here DONE
  • collect ds1 DONE
  • lunch DONE
  • ds2 nap Doing
  • Asda trip DONE
  • Doc appt for me DONE
  • tea x 3 (fish fingers)
  • boys bath & bed
  • I'm going out bowling with orchestra
  • DH home late

Ongoing:

  • get photos of family & hang them up
  • get on with friend's family tree
  • transfer all family trees over to Mac software
  • then go through 1911 census
  • sort out security light outside
  • clean carpets (get someone in?)
  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • read book from library about 'brain plasticity'
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • clear email inbox (7)
  • Big List (kitchen cupboards sort out, big bedding sort out)
  • return any borrowed stuff (DVDs, books, etc) 1Done
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs (after today)
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • organise anything needed for DS2 birthday DONE
  • deliver baby card & present (Fri)
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD
Alibabaandthe40nappies · 20/01/2010 16:11

Freak - that does sound odd with the lenses, can you ring them up and see whether that is usual to begin with?

Jolene - I've not done very well today either, feel really sluggish.

TODAY
Me and DH up - done
Shower and dressed - done
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins - done
Unload dishwasher - done
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done
Reload and run dishwasher - done
Make beds and tidy upstairs - done
Wipe over bathroom - done
Sort through underwear drawer - done
Lunch and tidy kitchen - done
Unload dishwasher again - done
DS nap - doing
Meal plan for the weekend
Dinner x 3
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Try new vanish carpet cleaning stuff
Kitchen clear before bed
Take ADs

LAUNDRY
2 loads of other washing - 1washing/1drying
Fold clean laundry - 2loadsdone
Put away clean things from airing cupboard - done
Wash nappies
Clean towels and bathmat out - done

CLEANING TODAY
Major tidy up in living room and dining room - started
Dust downstairs
Hoover downstairs
Hoover stairs

Jolene2 · 20/01/2010 17:30

I've managed to wrestle tea into both boys and frankly feel as though I've climed a mountain! Ah well, tomorrow another day. Cannot avoid Shaun the Sheep this evening so house will continue to look as though whirlwind passed through.

Dr Stewart's tranquility tea is good. Also valerian tablets but they smell pretty dreadful so you have to swallow them while holding your breath

JustKeepSwimming · 20/01/2010 22:02

Jolene - tea does feel like that sometimes!

Wed:

  • all up & breakfasted DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DONE
  • bath & get dressed DONE
  • DS2 dressed DONE
  • go to Argos to collect present for DS2 bday DONE
  • other jobs? B&QForTorches & SortOutHighchairStraps
  • swap over bathmats & towels DONE
  • window cleaner here DONE
  • collect ds1 DONE
  • lunch DONE
  • ds2 nap DONE
  • Asda trip DONE
  • Doc appt for me DONE
  • tea x 3 (fish fingers) DONE
  • boys bath & bed DONE
  • bowling with orchestra DONE
  • DH home late here

Thurs:

  • DS2 2nd birthday
  • all up, dressed & breakfasted
  • DS2's presents
  • ds1 to pre-sch
  • me, Dh & ds2 out somewhere maybe?
  • collect ds1
  • lunch + cake
  • ds2 nap
  • afternoon with ds1
  • boys tea + cake, lol!
  • boys to bed
  • my dinner & early night
  • DH out with work

Ongoing:

  • get photos of family & hang them up
  • get on with friend's family tree
  • transfer all family trees over to Mac software
  • then go through 1911 census
  • sort out security light outside
  • clean carpets (get someone in?)
  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • read book from library about 'brain plasticity'
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • clear email inbox (7)
  • Big List (kitchen cupboards sort out, big bedding sort out)
  • return any borrowed stuff (DVDs, books, etc) 1Done
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs (after today)
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • deliver baby card & present (Fri)
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD
fairybubbles · 21/01/2010 07:39

Freak- that happened to me before was due to the curvature of my eyeball so if it continues id def go back and speak to optician.

JKS- DP has been referred for counselling due to being signed off with stress, waiting for his first appt. I think its to get him talking and teach him some coping techniques.

Been v busy mon-wed working- off again until nnext Monday so the work begins!

DS up and dressed done
Made breakfast- homemade pancakes, a treat for DS done
washing up & put away
clear kitchen
get myself dressed
put a load of washing on
take DS to nursery
go food shopping
put food away
hang up wet washing to dry
hover all downstairs
take mattress back to ikea
have lunch out
park
3 bags to drop at charity shop, DP had said he would do it but didn't manage to

post later with more, have a good day everyone...

JustKeepSwimming · 21/01/2010 09:00

Morning Fairy

DS2 not well today think we are all coming down with colds and they seem to really affect him, though he is happy enough watching ITNG (again) now

Thurs:

  • DS2 2nd birthday Doing
  • all up, dressed & breakfasted 2Done
  • DS2's presents DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DH Doing
  • me, DH & DS2 out somewhere maybe?
  • collect ds1
  • lunch + cake
  • DS2 nap
  • afternoon with DS1
  • boys tea + cake, lol!
  • boys to bed
  • my dinner & early night
  • DH out with work

Ongoing:

  • get photos of family & hang them up
  • get on with friend's family tree
  • transfer all family trees over to Mac software
  • then go through 1911 census
  • sort out security light outside
  • clean carpets (get someone in?)
  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • read book from library about 'brain plasticity'
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • clear email inbox (7)
  • Big List (kitchen cupboards sort out, big bedding sort out)
  • return any borrowed stuff (DVDs, books, etc) 1Done
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs (after today)
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • deliver baby card & present (Fri)
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD
Alicetheinvisible · 21/01/2010 09:42

Morning

JKS is it DS2's birthday today? Where are you going?

Still so damned tired, but have promised myself that i will do some jobs today. Going to a friends at 11am, so need to get stuff done before 10.30 really.

Get dressed
Get DD dressed
Open windows in bedrooms
Put toys away in sitting room
Go to Waitrose
Go to friends
Pick other friend up at 2.30
Do horses
Slump on sofa while DH cooks dinner
Sort out some clean washing and put away

To do this week;
Tidy sitting room
Hoover sofas
Clean rug
Sort coats out that hang in the hall
Hoover stairs
Sweep and mop hall floor
Clean bathroom

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 21/01/2010 09:59

Morning everyone

Happy Birthday JKS' DS2! Poor little thing having a cold on his birthday, hope you all have a good day

Alice - I am in awe of you still managing to muck out horses etc when you are struggling like you are.

List isn't very big yet, will add more later!

TODAY
Me and DH up - done
Pilates + cardio - done
Shower and dressed
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins - done
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done
Unload dishwasher
Make beds and tidy upstairs
Wipe over bathroom
Lunch and tidy kitchen
Monkey Music
Dinner x 3
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Kitchen clear before bed
Take ADs

LAUNDRY
Dry nappies - doing
Fold clean laundry
Put away clean things from airing cupboard
1 load of washing
Iron bedding

CLEANING TODAY
Dust downstairs
Hoover stairs
Bathroom floor

JustKeepSwimming · 21/01/2010 10:37

Alice - me too, mucking out horses seems like a big job to me!

Not really doing anything special today really, DH having the day off so that makes it easier for me & more exciting for ds1.
DS2 had some ventalin but slumped on daddy watching ITNG again so not going to venture out with him this morning. He doesn't know it's a different day to any other tbh.

I am thinking of redoing my ongoing list, shelving some stuff (that been on there ages) and doing an actual list of some that might get done!
Need to have to spare room sorted out for new bed whenever that arrives (think i have a few weeks)

Thurs:

  • DS2 2nd birthday Doing
  • all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
  • DS2's presents DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DH DONE
  • me, DH & DS2 chill out at home Doing
  • collect ds1 (DH going in early for storytime)
  • lunch + cake
  • DS2 nap
  • afternoon with DS1
  • boys tea + cake, lol!
  • boys to bed
  • my dinner & early night
  • DH out with work

Ongoing:

  • get photos of family & hang them up
  • get on with friend's family tree
  • transfer all family trees over to Mac software
  • then go through 1911 census
  • sort out security light outside
  • clean carpets (get someone in?)
  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • read book from library about 'brain plasticity'
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • clear email inbox (7)
  • Big List (kitchen cupboards sort out, big bedding sort out)
  • return any borrowed stuff (DVDs, books, etc) 1Done
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs (after today)
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • deliver baby card & present (Fri)
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD
FreakoidOrganisoid · 21/01/2010 13:07

Happy birthday JKS DS2!

Went to Boots this morning and managed to get a couple of bits 75% off Last year everythng was gone the first day but there were 9 or 10 different sets today. Do you think walking 3.6 miles (briskly) counts as my exercise or do I still have to do it?

All up, dressed, breakfasted - DONE
Washing up - DONE
Wipe kitchen sides and dining table ? DONE
DD to preschool ? DONE
Book fence men ?
Hoover downstairs ?
Clean loo ?
Clean bathroom sink ?
Book window cleaner ?
Lunch ? DONE
Go to Boots ? DONE
Pick up dd ? DONE
EXERCISE ? DONE?
DRINK MORE (not alcohol!) ? DOING
Go to toddlers -
File the pile ?
Recycling pile into box- DONE
Cook dinner ? DONE (in slow cooker)
Wash up -
Bath and bed dc?s-
Tidy kitchen and sitting room -

PlumBumMum · 21/01/2010 14:14

Hi girls have been lurking and not posting will get my act together soon,
have done a pile of ironing so I am off to put it away before school run
dh has picked ds up to go for haircuts

JustKeepSwimming · 21/01/2010 14:31

Freakoid - definitely counts!!

Hi Plum

Well DS2 fell asleep on the sofa before lunch. but woke up when i tried to put him in bed, had lunch & cake, then went back to bed. THink his cold is tiring him out poor thing.

Thurs:

  • DS2 2nd birthday Doing
  • all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
  • DS2's presents DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DH DONE
  • me, DH & DS2 chill out at home DONE
  • collect ds1 (DH going in early for storytime) DONE
  • lunch + cake DONE
  • DS2 nap Doing
  • afternoon with DS1 DH & DS1 out
  • tidy boys books & shelves DONE
  • boys tea + cake, lol!
  • boys to bed
  • my dinner & early night
  • DH out with work

(new) Ongoing List:

  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • go through all kitchen cupboards
  • go through all the bedding & sort out
  • return borrowed stuff (2 x DVDs, 1 book & 1 highchair)
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • deliver baby card & present (Fri)
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD (Fri)
  • return some library books (renew others)
  • go through toys upstairs to see if any suitable for DS2 now Started
  • tidy spare room
  • see if old bed can be got out of room without wrecking it to give away
  • find home for spare double mattress (or give away?)
  • tidy DS2's room
  • make up bed in DS2's room (for snoring emergencies, lol)
JustKeepSwimming · 21/01/2010 15:26

Phew, feeling like i've achieved some stuff today
Thurs:

  • DS2 2nd birthday Doing
  • all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
  • DS2's presents DONE
  • DS1 to pre-sch DH DONE
  • me, DH & DS2 chill out at home DONE
  • collect ds1 (DH going in early for storytime) DONE
  • lunch + cake DONE
  • DS2 nap Doing
  • afternoon with DS1 DH & DS1 out
  • tidy boys books & shelves DONE
  • 2 sets of friends pop in with presents DONE
  • watch end of Poseidon Adventure for 5mins sit down DONE
  • boys tea + cake, lol!
  • boys to bed
  • my dinner & early night
  • DH out with work

(new) Ongoing List:

  • contact new dentist & see if we can register
  • contact handyman re new list of jobs for him
  • go through all kitchen cupboards
  • go through all the bedding & sort out
  • return borrowed stuff (2 x DVDs, 1 book & 1 highchair)
  • photos off camera (upload & order online prints)
  • make GP appt to discuss coming off ADs
  • fix porch door handle (again, it's broken so many times it's not funny)
  • order door curtain (& rail) for front door
  • deliver baby card & present (Fri)
  • return forgotten gloves to friends DD (Fri)
  • return some library books (renew others Renewed)
  • go through toys upstairs to see if any suitable for DS2 now DONE
  • tidy spare room DONE
  • see if old bed can be got out of room without wrecking it to give away
  • find home for spare double mattress (or give away?)
  • tidy DS2's room
  • make up bed in DS2's room (for snoring emergencies, lol)
FreakoidOrganisoid · 21/01/2010 16:17

Oh yuck yuck yuck the most vilest disgustingest horriblest thing just happened. DS came and stuck his hand in front of my face and I absentmindedly kissed it then thought yuck he had something on his hand that's now on my lip, oh hang on I can smell poo I CAN SMELL POO! THERE IS POO STUCK TO MY LIP!!!!

Yuck! Have scrubbed my face til it hurts!

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