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Become a Konvert in 2015 - Kondo thread 5. All welcome!

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PeoniesforMissAnnersley · 09/01/2015 12:51

Thought I better set this up when I realised I had inadvertently posted the 999th post on thread 4! Shock

Join us in purging our lives of things which do not bring joy and discover the wonder and magic of folding your knickers! Grin

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ALittleFaith · 15/01/2015 22:56

milkpudding welcome! To answer your question, I have shelves not drawers but I still fold my clothes as she suggests and stand them and it works fine.

inadaydream · 15/01/2015 23:01

My oldest piece of clothing will be a pair of Levi's I used to wear when I was 18, when I 'thought' I was fat! I have kept them as a reminder to myself how stupid I was back then and I secretly want to try and get back into them which will be achieved in 2015 or they get chazzad

I am now almost 36 so they are nearly 18 years old!!

BrandNewIggi · 15/01/2015 23:17

I am wondering how many extra hangers it is acceptable to hold on to 100 Blush
I now have three empty drawers in my bedroom and wondering what to put in them!

Iqueen · 15/01/2015 23:24

Brings joy to me feels like a warm loving cuddle.

IPityThePontipines · 16/01/2015 01:28

I have started Kondo-ing! Today it was the bedding and towels in the cupboard of Doom, which 4 bin bags for charity + one rubbish bag later is now looking much better.

Tomorrow I'm hoping to Kondo dd2's clothes quickly (she doesn't have too much stuff) and then do mine.

Then I hope to do
Bathroom komono
Books
Toys
Electricals
Dd1's room
Kitchen

Hopefully this will happen over the next few weeks, rather then months! I feel really excited about it. I've declutters before, but this feels like the declutter to end all declutters.

milkpudding · 16/01/2015 05:24

Should I read her book first or just get stuck in?
I dropped Fly Lady after a week because I wouldn't stick to it after an initial flurry of activity, so I am keen to stick to a workable plan.

My clothes are a great place to start, they keep spilling out of the wardrobe onto the floor.
With the brings joy criterion- I have clothes that I wear regularly but they are practical and don't bring me joy. Then clothes with lovely memories attached that I don't can't wear anymore. How do I sort those?
How does Kondo ing work with putting things into storage? We have an attic. I want to store my maternity clothes, work clothes, as I will hopefully need them again- is this ok?

milkpudding · 16/01/2015 05:25

Or should I be learning to feel joy for the clothes I wear regularly so I get to keep them?

milkpudding · 16/01/2015 05:37

Oh I understand better after reading thishereandnow.wbur.org/2014/12/09/tidying-up-kondo-westmoreland

Violettatrump · 16/01/2015 06:13

Welcome milkpud. Happy kondoing!

Girls I have a 'window' today between 12 and 2 and I really must force myself to go through old letters, photos, momentos! I have generally delayed for years but more recently have delayed kondoing them for weeks.

HermioneGrangerHair · 16/01/2015 07:02

Milk, If you can read the book, I'd recommend it. It's much better for those of us who thrive on initial flurries than other systems. It's all about the initial flurry! And there are bits that clarify some of your questions.

Keeping clothes with memories attached... Not so much. You "thank" them and get rid of them. To me, that means really acknowledging why I was keeping them, and taking a moment to consider whether I'm keeping them for me as I am now, or the person I once was. If the latter, they're out - I don't have the space to store stuff for people who no longer exist!

Similarly, with stuff you're storing for some future version of yourself (pregnant/working/thinner... We all do it for different reasons). This is a balance we each have to find for ourselves. When I went through my thin clothes, I asked myself whether this was an imminent ambition (not likely), whether it brought me joy to be surrounded by a thin person's clothes (definitely not!), and whether any of these items would really bring me joy if I fitted into them right now (actually, no!) If you can answer yes to two or three of those questions, then you should treat your maternity clothes like everything else... Still reduce it to only the pieces that really bring you joy.

As for practical versus joyful, there've been a few discussions upthread about the joy of things that just work well. Like my joy when I put on a pair of perfectly dull socks that are smooth, non-holey, fit well, and don't fall down inside my boots. The plain black t-shirt that you pull out of the laundry and think "Yes! My favourite!" You only really get the sense of it when you start going through them. But if you have a perfectly good pair of jeans you wear a lot because they're new and they fit, but every time you see yourself wearing them you feel like a potato, they have to go, no matter how practical they are!

CoolCadbury · 16/01/2015 07:21

hermione I really like the way you explained that. Smile

Starface · 16/01/2015 07:47

I pity, that's the concept - the declutter to end all declutters, because you also declutter your whole approach to stuff. I have to say I don't buy that totally, especially with a family, but still for now this is fantastic.

We have been "given" a colour printer and a silk holiday shirt (both given to hubby). Anyone perfected a way of refusing unwelcome gifts. Or (answering my own question) is the key to enjoy the joy of the giving/receiving and then just get rid ASAP?

The group for Nappies is Cloth Bank - reusable cloth & pad crisis point uk.
Best to message them for address etc. They seem to be connected into food banks etc. I think they have a strategy for free postage for donations too but please check with them for details. I haven't used them they are just on my fb for when I need to!

Starface · 16/01/2015 07:52

Ps. Having a kondo wobble. Currently enjoying vikram seth "two lives" on audio book. He goes through his dead aunt's stuff and charts her life from her few remaining possessions.

Maybe I should just use it to help me think about what i might keep. I worry about what might be uninteresting now but is interesting in say 20 years time.

milkpudding · 16/01/2015 07:55

Thanks for the explanation Hermione, I think this will suit me. I will commit to doing this over the next four months (until mat leave finishes) but do each stage when I have a chunk of time. Fly Lady failed because it was hard to stick to the daily tasks with an unpredictable baby.

I am going to get her book, but in the meantime can anyone explain about stacking clothes vertically? I have two large shelves in my wardrobe where all my clothes sit in two heaps Blush. No drawers- well, three tiny ones for socks and undies, and limited rail space. I am going to declutter my clothes tomorrow (will prob repeat when I have read book but would like to make a start now), how should I put them back.

milkpudding · 16/01/2015 08:00

Thanks for the Cloth Bank info star, I have lots of nappies I have been meaning to sell for ages. So far my only progress has been to accumulate packaging in anticipation! I need to set a date and either sell or donate.

Starface · 16/01/2015 08:05

Also, what to do with many unwanted hangers?

Starface · 16/01/2015 08:08

For wardrobe shelves in hubbies wardrobe I bought baskets (off method) to work like drawers.

inadaydream · 16/01/2015 08:11

milk I loved the flylady concept, the idea of a routine and a shiney sink! But it never happened! I have a very clingy 18mo so I have to do what I can during his large morning nap or when he is down at his grans for a few hours. Kondoing is working for me and my house is slowly coming together so much so I am getting a little cleaning routine all by myself. The thing I am finding with kondo is it gives you the tools which you can adapt. I don't follow strict order and I don't follow the pile it all in one place - I prefer to break things down drawer by drawer or shelf by shelf but it's working all the same. And as for keeping the sentimental clothing that you no longer wear etc.... I think common sense can be applied there (not being rude!!) and as for the practical clothing that brings no joy you will find you will replace them eventually with ones that are practical and bring you joy as the kondo becomes addictive. I did my pant drawer a few weeks ago and wasn't happy with the plain white TOM pants so i bought some nice more colourful ones and enjoyed getting rid of the others!!

HermioneGrangerHair · 16/01/2015 08:26

Thanks Cadbury! Must be all this excellent coaching I'm getting from you lot!

Milk, first thing is to reduce the content of the heaps, then the storage will seem more manageable. MK looooves shoeboxes as storage (you may discover you already have other, similar containers). The idea is to neatly fold your clothes to match, as nearly as possible, the depth of the shoe box. Then you wedge them in together so they stand on end. Imagine the last fold you make in each item is like a letter V. You store it upside-down so you can see the bottoms of all those Vs at the top of your shoebox. Then the shoebox lives on your shelf. You might have a box for tops, a box for trousers, a box for underwear. Underwear typically gets rolled. Socks are folded, NOT BALLED-UP! The thickness of the Vs varies: obviously, once folded to the height of a shoebox, a jumper is chunkier than a t-shirt, but sort of works anyway. The main thing is, you can see everything at one glance. Some things (structured jackets, dress shirts, coats) still get hung up, but much less than before.

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milkpudding · 16/01/2015 09:27

Oh dear, we threw away all our shoe boxes when we had a clear out!

misscph1973 · 16/01/2015 09:46

Violetta, not sure if a 12 year old would enjoy Androids, perhaps if he/she is already into SciFi and has seen the film.

Lockie, I also studied Androids at uni, I was lucky enough to find a course in SciFi literature as part of my English BA. We also read William Gibson, another favourite of mine. And I was introduced to Ursula K L Guin.

I am actually feeling very "literary" at the moment, I found myself taking out T S Eliott from my bookshelf the other day and reading The Lovelong of J ALfried Prufrock - still love it! "I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled". I haven't read much "difficult" literature since I graduated in 2003, and it's really nice to rediscover a few things after years of mainly Scandi crime novels.

BrandNewIggi · 16/01/2015 09:47

Hermione - no matter what I wear I look like a potato! Sad throws self away as not sparking joy

misscph1973 · 16/01/2015 09:50

Oh, and I finally binned some horrible old polyester pillow cases because I bought new bedding in the sale. My problem is that I like bedding that is far too expensive for my budget, so I only ever have a max of 2 sheets and 4 duvet covers/pillow cases for me and DH. This means that they get very worn quickly! I can't really recommend not having enough bedding, it's nice to be able to store all bedding and towels in one divan bed side drawer, but you have to very efficient with laundry and get new every few years. My duvet cover was literally torn from wear when I binned it this morning, and I was really sad to see it go, as it was such lovely Egyptian cotton.

Pointlessfan · 16/01/2015 10:12

Starface we had that sort of discussion when we found old school books and things in the loft. We don't really want or need them but they might be interesting in the future, especially to DD as I expect writing in books to be a thing of the past by the time she starts school! We chose one or two to keep (in the loft) and recycled the rest.
Just did Tupperware. It seems to be the one cupboard that won't stay tidy. I've got rid of a lot or used it to store things in drawers etc but we still need lunch boxes, cake tins etc. The problem is that to fit them in they have to slot inside each other and it is a hassle to get them out to reslot every time we use them. (DH seems to find it more difficult than me!!). At least the cupboard door shuts now, we'll see if it lasts...

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