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Kondoing this and kondoing that - thread 4 for Marie Kondo's lifechanging magic with tidying. All welcome!

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TheSporkforeatingkyriarchy · 23/12/2014 18:09

Here's thread 4 for all the KonMario converts, wannabes, and guests to the magic!

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Iqueen · 04/01/2015 12:01

Hermione The MK Order of Work, is her idea of 'easiest to hardest' and often needs to be tweaked by disciples for personal, time or other reasons. As we are all unique, the order may vary slightly, or from time to time. No problem. Smile

Also, great decision about your father's things. If it brings a smile, keep it; if not, let it go to others who may smile.

Good luck with your DH - let's hope he becomes as keen as you are!

Peonies Have you thought of letting your elderly relative know of specific things you would like as gifts?

Being an older person myself, I find it very hard to buy gifts for my children, now. They have good incomes and can afford almost anything they want/need.

One daughter who, literally can afford anything she wants, always gets an RSPB diary from me, because she loves them, and asked me for that. Her husband gets a pair of beautiful socks, hand-knitted by me, because he loves wearing them and also recognises what they would cost to buy! They also get 'consumables' - a tin of chocolate biscuits this year, which I know they will eat. My daughter is, naturally, more MK, than MK! Shock

Has anyone used Genie, to recycle clothes? I live in a very rural area and cannot get to our tiny charity shops, very often, and they don't collect. Sad

GatoradeMeBitch · 04/01/2015 12:08

Excellent idea Violetta! I'll ask my SIL if DN's nursery could make use of them!

I've seen the Night Owl thread Zing but I always tell myself I am just about to address my bad sleeping habits. Maybe I should just give in at this point! (Especially now I have Netflix and there are so many shows I can watch all in one go.)

Anyone who is letting clothing go because the colour doesn't 'spark joy', consider the Dylon machine dyes. I've revamped quite a few things that way, even by accident. I dyed a few items black yesterday, but the porridge coloured jumper came out a lovely taupey brown colour. I love it now, but I was ready to sling it yesterday!

catsofa · 04/01/2015 12:32

Oh wow lots of replies today! One long one before I start on my jumper drawers...

GatoradeMeBitch "I wish I could 'Kondo' my brain."

Funny, when I was reading the first bit of the book yesterday and she was getting me to really think about why I wanted to do any of this, that's more or less what I decided - I want to Kondo my brain really, and kondoing me flat is a means to getting my brain done. Hopefully.

whatsonyourplate I set up a new FB account last night to sell from, and found a few selling groups, some of which have approved my request to join despite me quite obviously being a new/"fake" account! Will list a few things later on and see how it goes, it certainly would be nice to get rid of stuff faster than waiting for auctions on ebay.

MsBug I actually lost my job just before I got pregnant, hence the struggle for money! I do have the time to ebay though really, just a combination of laziness/it's a lot of work, plus knowing I'll definitely have the time/be at home in 7 days time to post everything - I often have to be in another city for a week at a time at quite short notice so am wary of listing things when I might not be available to post them fast enough. The price limit is an excellent idea, thanks!

Violetta999 I also have a whole day of kondoing ahead of me, and am looking forward to it after coffee. I can't believe I just got out of bed as soon as I woke up and came to look on house cleaning threads and make lists of where to start!

HiccupHaddockHorrendous I keep my big towels on hooks on the back of the bathroom door, there is nowhere else they can possibly possibly go, and this only works because I live alone so only have enough towels to have a couple behind the door, one drying on a radiator in another room and one in the wash.

StuntNun I'm due 30th April and this will be my first, so I need to make room for all the baby stuff! Also my DP will be moving in with me so I want to get rid of all my extra stuff to make room for his. It's both quite helpful and quite stressful to have such a big looming deadline!

HermioneGrangerHair My name happened because the cat was sitting on me at the time, so I guess I was thinking I am the sofa of the cat - could also have been catfeeder, catskivvy or catbloodyscratchingpost...

I've only just read the bit of the book about tackling areas in the order that's easiest to sort, so ok for now I am leaving my mum's stuff which is sentimental and full of photos etc which are hard to throw out. It will probably be much easier to do my mum's stuff well once the other stuff is done, e.g. I will have space to get all the photos and albums together, to make the cute hanging display of all her earrings that I've been planning etc once everything else isn't cluttering up my space. I do already have a few of the photos she took hanging on my walls, which were hanging on hers, and which I genuinely enjoy every day.

I might try to reduce the sheer volume of that stuff by looking for her bank statements etc which I can easily throw out, but I think today I will concentrate on categories like jumpers, socks and bike stuff. Bike stuff will be good, I learned to fix bikes a couple of years ago and have loads of bits lying around which I'll not now need until well after the baby is born, so plenty I can chuck out or donate to a bike repair project locally.

Hubb · 04/01/2015 12:44

whatsonyourplate your drawer looks beautiful!! Where did you get those drawer dividers from? They look brilliant

pigsunited · 04/01/2015 12:50

Hope you don't mind if I join you on this thread. I started Kondoing my clothes a couple of days ago. Between DH and I, we took about 7 bin bags of clothes and accessories to the charity shop. The wardrobe and drawers are looking great with lots of spare space now, and seasonal clothes are no longer relegated to the loft.

However a few things are still bugging me, so I went back through and picked out a few more to discard this morning.

But even so I am still struggling on a few items! What have you done with:

  1. Clothes you really like, but don't currently fit? I have a stone of baby weight still to shift (its less than 5 months since DS was born, so I am actually hoping to shift it by summer).

I was thinking of keeping them until the end of summer and if they still don't fit then discard. Does that sound fair? There aren't many of them.

  1. Clothes you wear but don't like? Unfortunately if I get rid of all of these I won't have any shoes or coats to wear. Or any tops to wear with any of my skirts. Or any summer tops or bikinis at all!

I was thinking of keeping a minimal number until I can replace them with things I love. But at the same time am worried (particularly with the bikinis and summer tops which obviously aren't being used most of the time), that they are having the opposite effect on my drawers than they are supposed to!

FizzyBubbly · 04/01/2015 12:51

Hi Catsofa! Nice to see another April 2015 poster on here, I guess we must be nesting early Grin

Another newbie here, just finished the book on my new Xmas Kindle (of course!) and have already done sock and knicker drawers, plus couldn't resist skipping ahead and doing the kitchen crap drawer. Don't think I'll be able to tackle my wardrobe until my DD free day on Wednesday but am itching to get on with it!

VioletandRoger · 04/01/2015 13:04

Well done everyone. How exciting to have some pregnant ladies on the thread.

So far today I've washed and hung 3 loads of clothes washing. Kondo wise I've sorted through the under stairs cupboard and have a black bin bag of charity shop items, a tesco bag of stuff for a friend and a tesco bag of items to bin. DH is doing DIY

yongnian · 04/01/2015 13:04

And 2015 Kondo has officially started in my world with another bag to clothes bank...finished mine and DHs ages ago but it's ongoing Kondoing of dd's stuff. Decs will all go down tomorrow then it's back to categories proper with paperwork..eek

hoobypickypicky · 04/01/2015 13:09

leeloo and anyone else with unwanted china, the purchase, sale and hire of it is what I do so maybe I can give some advice. :)

  1. Don't assume that just because it's a big name it's worth a fortune or because it's not it won't be.
People look for names, for sure, but they also look for pretty. I've got brown and beige tea sets by the famous names Royal Albert and Paragon which have been languishing here for months. OTOH one of my most popular and high selling sets was a relatively unknown make of bone china with pretty pastel flowers.
  1. Ebaying and mailing china isn't a problem as long as you remember the following -

Royal Mail is far safer. It's good value for smaller packages although a little more expensive than Yodel/Hermes etc for larger parcels .

MyHermes and the like is pretty risky for the inexperienced packer and/or extra fragile items. I do use them but with caution.

No shipping company insures against damage in transit (loss yes, damage, no) except Royal Mail Special Delivery. The choice is yours but I use RM SD for expensive items and normal RM or extra well packed and padded out boxes sent by MyHermes/Yodel services for lower value ones.

Royal Mail Special Delivery also provides proof of receipt via a signature.

3/ Wrap each item individually in new bubble wrap.

Wrap extremities (teapot spouts, for example) in bubblewrap before wrapping the item as a whole.

Having wrapped each item of the same sort in bubble wrap wrap them together in one sheet (e.g., whole sets or 2 x half sets of dinner plates, three individually wrapped tea cups stacked together and then bubblewrapped). No item should touch another (including teapot lids etc) unless both have been individually bubblewrapped.

Use a strong, preferably new box, and make it a double-walled one if the items are especially heavy.

Pad the box out on all sides, top and bottom so that the bubble wrapped china doesn't touch the box at all and so no item can move about in the box. Shredded paper, polystyrene chips or balled up newspaper is good for this (the chips are lighter and will add less to the overall weight and cost, obviously). Popcorn works well as a box protector too, would you believe. Just buy popping kernels and off you go!

Use lots of strong parcel tape on the box not normal sized Sellotape. If in doubt use tape right round the box not just on the part you want to seal.

Mark your parcel "FRAGILE - HANDLE WITH CARE" clearly - RM can argue that it isn't covered against damage unless you do.

Always get proof of postage from the post office.

ParcelForce is a reliable service for heavy items. The same rules of packaging apply. They don't insure against damage in transit but with careful packing it shouldn't happen. I've been using them for years and have never experienced a customer complaining of breakage yet.

If you want to use ParcelForce get comparison quotes via an online broker like ParcelMonkey or Parcel2Go. They cost nothing to use and can save you a bit of money.

Remember that despite what you'll read on other people's Ebay listings, according to Ebay and Paypal's t&c's you are responsible for loss or damage in the post so cover yourself with the measures above.

4/ Accept only Paypal for posted items.

BTW, if you do sell locally accept only cash for collected items - it's not unheard of for people to pay by PP, collect in person then go home and raise a dispute claiming that the goods weren't received and get their PP payment back. You have no proof that they have the goods if they collect in person and not even a signed receipt is not acceptable to Ebay/PP.

HTH

hoobypickypicky · 04/01/2015 13:12

To add - when you bubble wrap china, fgs sellotape the bubblewrap around each item, don't just bung it around the china without any tape and lob it in the box!

hoobypickypicky · 04/01/2015 13:15
  • not even a signed receipt is acceptable to Ebay/PP.
HermioneGrangerHair · 04/01/2015 13:31

Wow, thanks hooby! That's really kind of you Smile

Iforgottotellyou · 04/01/2015 13:37

Just back from the shops and my 6 year old dd has done this (see photo), with the bag. Wink

Kondoing this and kondoing that - thread 4 for Marie Kondo's lifechanging magic with tidying. All welcome!
MrsVetinari · 04/01/2015 13:40

Thanks for all the welcomes and advice (and hi to anyone who's just starting too!) Smile - really helpful to hear other people's advice on it all. Kondoing anyway and keeping the wearables until I can replace them sounds much better than keeping all or nothing! Looking forward to starting on that tomorrow (looks down at current jeans with worn inner thighs - you'll be gone for starters!). The person using the item more makes sense too, will be difficult with the actual pans as cooking is pretty 50/50 here but nearly everything else is usually me or DH's 'realm' so will be easy to figure out who should decide.

Like the idea of keeping ornaments etc that I want to chuck boxed up for a while (glad we have a garage), very much doubt DH will remember them after a few weeks and if he does at least they'll be out of the house so he can deal with where they go if brought back in (in his storage space if I have anything to do with it!). Getting him involved with ebaying would be good too, make him involved and I hate ebaying so win-win!

Cadbury & Peonies - really admire you being able to send off unwanted pressies straight away, bane of my life being landed with stuff that's not 'me' at all - I even gave the IL's lists this year, not because I'm grabby - they asked for them specifically as they had no idea what to get, but then they decided it'd be fun to go 'off list' with a few things (well what was the problem going off list before then???) but it seems such a shame when it goes so wrong. Taking a photo is a good idea though, would get through the time when they remember they gave it and by next Xmas it'll be something else Hmm. Peonies - love Vimes too but far too much washing involved with him, and too much being kind and patient... although they are both too old for me, knowing my luck I'd actually be written in as Mrs CMOT Dibbler or something.

Looking forward to starting and being able to post updates/pics too.

FizzyBubbly · 04/01/2015 13:45

Quick question about getting rid of clothes - do you bin stuff that's too tatty for charity or are there places that can recycle the fabric? Am sure Salvation Army recycle unsellable clothes but we rarely get their charity bags through our door

lockie1983 · 04/01/2015 13:46

Tentatively dipping my toe in.

Have been lurking for a while an all this thinking about kondoing and not doing anything is just adding to the clutter in my life.

Hoping to join the ranks of doers ...

whatsonyourplate · 04/01/2015 13:50

Hubb they were a Christmas present (asked for not a huge hint!). I think they might be from Lakeland, they look the same as their ones.

FlouncyMcFlouncer · 04/01/2015 14:03

Ikea sell the drawer dividers too here: www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/20282107/

Mosling · 04/01/2015 14:07

Tatty clothes and manky (but clean) linens - most charity shops sort sellable clothes from rags, and the rags are sold on to be recycled. So they still get money from stained and holey materials. Also there are often rag banks in primary schools, nurseries and big supermarket car parks which get money for charity. No need for landfill, plenty of options! Our council will also collect with the bins if you use a special charity bag, but that's a bit of a faff.

PeoniesforMissAnnersley · 04/01/2015 14:15

Iqueen Sad yes, I've tried everything, when I ask for something specific she will either get it in a larger size (she refuses to believe anyone can really be a 6 or 8, or that I am the bra size I am Hmm or will embellish it with glitter glue/patches or just ignore me and get something random from a charity shop

Sigh.

So I'm condemned to throwing it all out, I pray she doesn't come and see me (she lives on another landmass but within the UK, think Isle of Man or similar) so it is unlikely but it would be Shock as we have nothing that she has given us over the years haha!

catsofa · 04/01/2015 14:18

lockie1983 Come on in, it's FUN! Try doing just your socks or something, to kick you off. I find it harder to stop once I get going than it is to get going in the first place, it's quite addictive.

I am half way through my jumpers and still keeping far too many, but at least they might all fit in one (big, filing cabinet) drawer after today. Will have to come back around to them another time too.

Realised that a lovely cardigan that I never wear could be worn instead of a horrible one I wear all the time, if I could just get over the need to save the nice ones cardigans for "best" all the time. Where do I even go that I need to wear best cardigans? Why shouldn't I wear Monsoon belted cardigans to sit up and read in bed? No reason at all, and I will really enjoy wearing the Monsoon one, even when I am in bed. The nasty granddad one is now firmly in the charity shop pile.

Countyourchickens · 04/01/2015 14:33

I have finally finished the books and chapters chucked out a bag of rubbish from DS room whilst at it. I have moved the books to a box under DS ged which makes them more accessible. I now have 4 bags to go to the tip and 2 bags to the charity shop, a load of bits to eBay and 2 bags to pass to other children. I reckon I have got rid of 12 bags of clothes and books so far! Papers are next. Just need to get a shredder.

hoobypickypicky · 04/01/2015 14:34

I'm 80% through my bedroom having started a couple of days ago and dipped in and out of it. I'm debating whether to attack the top shelf of my wardrobe or go and find some food and a coffee.

I think the food's winning atm.

I need to get over the concept of saving "for best" too. It doesn't work. I wear the same old clothes and never touch the "for best" stuff. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Iqueen · 04/01/2015 14:42

Peonies Rotfl! She thinks that she is buying the right size! Wink It's quite hard for us oldies to get our heads round the new 6-8 sizes! My ultra organised daughter is size 6, which used to be size 10, (32" bust!) in my day. Confused

I think you will have to just ask for tea towels, chocolates, amd shortbread this Christmas/birthday!

HermioneGrangerHair · 04/01/2015 14:45

The "saving for best" thing clicked with me a couple of years ago, when I realised how stupid it was to use crappy, mismatched kitchen cutlery 360 days a year, and the nice, dining room set when we had visitors. My rather stupid solution was to buy another, even more beautiful set for the kitchen. That meant the dining room set didn't get used at all, but it's recently been rehomed to a friend who's getting divorced, so I felt good about having it to give, and I've learned a useful lesson. Now just have to apply it to body lotion!