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April Fledglings Fly into Spring, Get That Clutter into the Bin

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/03/2012 22:47

Welcome to the April 2012 Fledgling Flyers thread. Come and join us for a bit of chat and a lot of housework (or possibly the other way round).

A huge "thank you" to SanguineChompa for leading us through March

If you're house is a mess and you are strugging with C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (something that undermines family fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat and support along the way.

We advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis. Feel free to browse the Flylady website as well, links below

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's tips on restoring order to our homes, and as we are all at different stages we will be using one of the following methods:

  • repeat or start baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

More info here and here!

All long-standing members, intermittent returnees, lurkers and newcomers welcome!!

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ToffeeWhirl · 28/04/2012 18:00

Mummy - goodness, what a dilemma! if you really want to do it and the option is there, maybe you should go ahead with the adventure. As WhoKnows says, it may be that you can get back into your line of work later.

SC - it must be very hard unpacking your mum's stuff - all those memories. But maybe it will also be comforting to have around. Sorry you regret leaving your career. It must be made more difficult as you say you never actually agreed to stay permanently.

WhoKnows - pottering day here too Smile. We were going to take DS2 out for the day, but DH is knackered and DS2 was perfectly happy to stay in, so we changed our plans.

I really have lost my Flying habit at the moment. Am finding housework so boring and repetititive (obviously - duh!). I think a lot of my energy is going on planning for DS1's home education (which I really enjoy) and I just don't have any left over for housework. However, I had a call from the LEA yesterday about them providing DS with a tutor and/or online learning, so my role may come to an end Sad.

Also, DS1 didn't have a good week and it gets me down, although I know, rationally, that I shouldn't expect him to make continuous progress. He is terrified of going to Spain (5 weeks till we go) and said that he can't do it. I spent ages reassuring him and eventually he said he'd try to come, but I had to hold his hand all the time. I just wonder how it came to this? I feel so sad for him and it's hard not to think I've messed up somewhere Sad. Sorry, I should post this in SNs really. Maybe I should start a thread....

Anyway, I have a Ta da list today:

Lazy b/fasts
Swished and swiped in bathroom
Changed hand towel and loo roll
Unloaded d/w
Reloaded d/w
Washed up extra stuff
Wiped kitchen counters
Tidied up kitchen hotspot
Cleared dining room table and wiped down
Did home ed planning for next week
Lazy lunch (sandwiches)
Shouted at Broke up verbal fight between DC
Carried new shelves in from car
Helped DH put new shelves up in sitting room
Replaced batteries in DS2's toy hamster
Made up bed for DS1's best friend (sleepover tonight)
Wiped down walls in DS1's bedroom with Magic Eraser
Admired DS2's hamster room (in a shoebox - features its own hand-drawnTV, Lego shop and -er - my digital timer Confused)
Bought wine
Danced with DS2
Put washing on when I realised I have nothing to wear tomorrow
Half-heartedly put some washing away
Started lazy dinner (baked potatoes and sausages with veg)

Are you all having rainy days too (those of you in UK, I mean)? Very dark and rainy here.

Is it wine o'clock yet?

ToffeeWhirl · 28/04/2012 18:00

Should add to my 'ta da' list that I also stuck to my low-fat, low-sugar diet plan. God it's boring though!

swanthingafteranother · 28/04/2012 20:49

Finally, found time to use computer, and find dongle which was floating around the house - dd keeps taking it.

Extremely tired, achieved very little, except catechism class, and buying a new picture (of a duck Shock for the kitchen wall. Children taking turns to be boorish and dreadful but I suppose we have got through the day, justabout!

Lots of walking around in rain though...

done
swept kitchen floor
emptied food compost
wiped table
dw on
washed up saucepans
folded up sheets and pillowcases to put away in airing cupboard (usually I just stuff them in Blush or make the beds as fast as possible with stuff on bannisters)
got ds1 off to orchestra at 8.15 Shock
forced dcs to do the occasional "chore" successfully, dd helped dh cook lunch Smile

ds2 went to a sports party hurrah, (present already in dh study, again unusually organised for us) Dh wrapped, dd made a card for ds2 to sign Grin
remaining dcs went to spend money in Waterstones with Dh

Ds1 refused to buy any books off his "medieval" reading list, and insisted on buying more Mr Gum...he really prefers books for 9 year olds although he is 12 Hmm

SC No need to rush unpacking, at least it has all arrived safely, and so much work must have gone into sorting it out beforehand in last few months that you may to take a break. It is up to you how long you leave it, no-one is going to call you to acccount except you! We have quite a lot of dh's parents' paintings which use to hang in very familiar (to Dh) places like dining room, and he has adjusted fine to their new homes; but I agree it is odd to see things out of natural context. If they could only speak! It is a bit Narniaish, these pieces of wood/canvas/print that have absorbed so much for last 50 years.

P.S. I think London would not necessarily be the same place for you now (if you lived there, can't remember?) with dd, life in London changes utterly with dcs, as do jobs and careers, and London fun in general Shock

Toffee I remember someone telling me the teens were so much worse because you can't make it alright for them any more; when they are little you can kiss them better. It is very hard, but you are doing such a lot to help him and support him, you can't really do more, perhaps the rest has to come from within him. A holiday sounds such a classic example of something that would make you anxious, whatever people might think about holidays being relaxing exciting wonderful things - I think as I said before, I do sympathise Not much fun for you and DH though when you are looking forward to the holiday.
Do you think it is still linked to fear of being asked to go back to school if he shows signs of being better? Do you have someone professional who has an overview of Ds - I mean the CBT lady for example and can advise what is likely to happen re: holiday anxiety? Whether you should jolly him along or accept it I mean?

Carpe very brave of any child to eat anything remotely new, please don't worry about ds not eating...

Whoknows Dh finally put my sprouting potatoes in the compost...I think this year is a complete write off gardening wise; I've been told the raised beds are off, as they still need to play football in the garden Hmm

better go, Still drowning in clutter, still wrangling eternally with my husband over solutions/systems - in fact I can't find a solution except to do little bits of tidying here an dthere which make me feel mildly better Sad

PA I think help is not the pejorative thing it is here, it means you are giving someone a job! Anyway, there won't be other comforts which I suspect we pay for here. Enjoy the helper[s] So soon! How is the language bit going?

swanthingafteranother · 28/04/2012 20:53

Anyway to be more positive DH has removed large truckloads of ivy from the fence prior to its replacement, which has made flower bed ten times bigger, and one less thing for builder to do. And the rain is so beneficial, if not to the brickwork, to all the plants which are hanging around in pots waiting to be repositioned!

sanguinechompa · 28/04/2012 21:48

[Thanks for Wine Toffee!! glug, glug, hic]

Good day in all. Can't say much Flying was achieved but we all had family fun and I finally managed to download a Radio4 programme on to my mobile phone (something I've been trying to do for over three months Blush) in readiness for return to regular power walking.

Dh has just run dd's friend home who I think was upset not to be staying over tonight.. felt rather mean .... but we have busy day tomorrow.. church where dd is in 8 to 12s choir..then late lunch with friends ...then hoping to get away for a few days in the countryside.... Will have to make it up to them both another time.

Swan sounds like everything is really taking shape in your garden - must be v. exciting after all the planning and prep ....!! And congrats on your super-organised day!!

YOu are so right about London and UK in general moving on and not being the same ... I feel it every time I visit ...[displaced person emoticon [just kidding]] but that's all to the good and as it should be ....need to plough new furrows and all that ....

And yes to Narnia-ish furniture - was dusting an ancient corner cupboard earlier that I can remember being in the dining room when I was about three yrs old and was always forbidden to touch (held fragile china). Most odd that it's flapped it's way over here now. But as Toffee says - comforting as well.

Toffee post away here and you musn't blame yourself - as Swan says - holidays are very unsettling things - everyone gets anxious about them so absolutely natural for your ds to do so - and perhaps progress will be three steps forward, two back, for a while.

And thanks for kind words but ignore my mid-life crisis - need to get to grips with 'what actually is' rather than 'what was'! I've had plenty of time!

Well done re: your mega ta-da list and beating the sugar cravings btw. Arf at Flying habits so ingrained they have extended to toy hamster ...!! Wink

MummyNickleby Brussels which is great but surreal at same time.

Cheers to Whoknows and everyone else!!

See you in the naughty corner for more Wine Wine Wine

BitchyInTheCorner · 28/04/2012 22:42

I'll be over in brussels later this year. Very exciting.

Well I survived and I think my sanity is just about intact.

Hot bath and bed is the plan absolutely knackered but need to clean and soak after the training.

sanguinechompa · 28/04/2012 22:58

When are you coming over Bitchy? You'd be very welcome to stop by for a flagon of wine cup of tea and a frank assessment of clutter natter!!

BitchyInTheCorner · 28/04/2012 23:21

End of nov. Not sure how things are going to work as it is a comp so will depend on timings with team coaches and stuff.

sanguinechompa · 28/04/2012 23:33

Right ho -no worries - keep me posted!

G'night all!

thewaffler · 28/04/2012 23:45

Evening all - hope you're all having good weekends? This is a late night for me, but DH has a friend over and he's brought his daughter whose asleep upstairs, i'm therefore technically babysitting, as dh and friend gone out for drinks, so don't want to go to bed in case she wakes up. Once i'm asleep, i'm dead to the world.

Have spent lots of time over the past couple of days with sister and new baby, when i first got to the hospital and i saw her, I promptly burst into floods of tears and then couldn't stop which was unexpected Hmm How big was your first trying?

Have been making mistakes over last couple of days, not sure if this is related to tiredness or not - yesterday put ds in carseat, put the harness on, but forgot the seatbelt round the seat Blush

Took dc out in double buggy in rain in afternoon to go to toddler group, got to bottom of hill to discover that puncture on the pushchair, aka heaviest buggy in in the world. Had to try and push it like a wheelbarrow up a hill with no steering, dump them at playgroup and ran home in rain to get car.

This morning took dd swimming, dh at work, ds with my mum, returned from swimming to find front door wide open, had obviously forgot to close it, always debate whether i've locked it or not and have had to return to check, but inevitably it is, i've never left door wide open before - wallet in full view and phone but nothing taken, postman had kindly left parcel inside door, decided probably best not to tell dh i'd done this.

Catalogue of disasters finished this afternoon when i went to supermarket with dc - turned out they don't do trolleys with double seats, dd is a liability if let loose and she'd be likely to pull things of shelves and cause havoc. Ds's carseat too big to have in trolley as no room to put shopping, ds too small to sit in seat in trolley as can't yet sit up by himself, had to have dd in seat and hold ds and push the heavy trolley one handed, load up and pack at till only to discover i'd lost wallet - agggggh - luckily it was in the car, had to dump dc in car, run back to supermarket and rejoin the cue to pay.

Limited gardening completed, have now got mange tout in, but still lots to do- swan what are you doing to your garden/house which requires builders? We've filled in a very large pond which is great, but a whole side of garden now needs turfing and recent weather has turned whole lot into a mud pit.

Have more friends coming over tomorrow with their dc, so we'll have a house full, i honestly CBA to tidy up, they'll have to make do, its not too bad, ordinarily would get into a bit of a flap and do a crisis clean, but they'll have to make do.

Ooooh, a drunk dh and friend have returned are back, will report back later!

ToffeeWhirl · 29/04/2012 00:50

Have only just got DS1 and his friend to turn out the light and stop talking. DS2 also wouldn't settle to sleep tonight, so I had to dash between him and watching 'The Bridge'. Absolutely hooked. Anyone else watching? I like the female detective - it's rare to see characters with Aspergers portrayed on screen.

thewaffler - you sound as if you are sleep-deprived or stressed or both. I should think it's been very emotional and worrying over the last few days, with your sister having her baby. I hope things settle down for you soon. If it's any comfort, I have done every single one of the things you describe. When I left our front-door open, we went out for the afternoon to a local farm. I still can't believe it, but nothing was taken, in spite of the door being wide open for several hours.

SC - afraid my sugar cravings have got the best of me Blush. And you are right about progress being three steps forward, two back with regard to DS1. I expect he overdid it last week and needs to retreat this week.

Swan - that is so true about children getting older and yes, I suppose improvement does have to come from within him. That's a good point about school - I must reassure him about it. I can contact CBT therapist anytime, so I could do that re the holiday. Our main weapon, however, is to produce a Nintendo DS for both boys as surprise gifts as we set out. Hopefully, this will distract DS1 from his anxieties. Well done on getting out in the rain today and having a bookish afternoon in Waterstone's. An Usborne history encyclopaedia arrived here today (I had ordered it for our home ed) and was greeted with the response you would expect from a 12-year-old boy . I have enjoyed dipping into it though.

Bitchy - glad you enjoyed your training. How exciting that you may be visiting Brussels later this year.

Should go to bed, but I'm wide awake. I can hear the wind roaring outside - it's going to be a stormy night.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/04/2012 09:36

Babystep for Sunday

Schedule a weekly pamper session

No mission today as it's Sunday.

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/04/2012 09:40

TheWaffler - I've left the front door open too, more than once. It's easily done when you are tired/distracted.

Toffee - what channel is The Bridge on? All I ever seem to watch is Coronation Street and ER.

Need to get on, I want to make some bread for lunch and haven't started it yet. Back later.

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/04/2012 10:16

Bread's rising, fire's lit, DC's are snuggled in my bed watching cartoons. No excuse for not Flying. Hmmm.

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Tryingtogetairbourne · 29/04/2012 10:16

Right I WILL fly this week...

Today - done
vacuuming living room cause it needed it
fed myself and children
brushed dc teeth
awaiting dh to come back from night out, sleeping at his mums so he can get a lay in... Hmm
load in washer

To do
bit of washing up
empty dw
make beds
have shower
brush teeth

Do something nice for myself...30 min reading time while dh looks after dc? In the bath...?

Hope your all having a good wkend!

Enjoy!

Tryingtogetairbourne · 29/04/2012 10:18

Whoknows can I come to your house? Sounds wonderful....

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/04/2012 10:38

Ooh, silver platters, we are honoured!

I have had my self indulgent time of a lie in with my book till 9am, when DD climbed in with me.

I have been reading lots of smug FB updates about how much fun people are having taking their DCs for walks in the woods in the wind and rain. But I am quite glad that my two are the sort that will happily stay at home all day. We might go and see my parents later though.

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swanthingafteranother · 29/04/2012 11:24

Whoknows it started like that in our house (I mean the snuggly cuddly enjoying indoors whilst it rains) but ds1 has since had a meltdown over the definition of "Reeve" as in medieval, and ds2 has lost his football sticker album and was ranting about that...so I feel like we have been through the great spin cycle of life again Hmm And church will have to be at 6pm now Hmm as we were nowhere near getting out of the house at 10.30.

Toffee I'm finding the library an absolute godsend, as no book seems to cover absolutely every angle or detail, and there you find books specifically on bits of history, designed just for children/teens - want to buy them all afterwards but at least it is a quick and inexpensive fix until we are on to the next topic... So far the internet is a hopeless way to look things up, despite teacher giving us websites - whereas a whole paragraph on printed page on "wattle and daub" is quite easy to shove under ds's nose.

Thewaffler I feel exactly, and behave exactly like you, when very preoccupied, serial forgetfulness, leading to even more emotion, leading to even more forgetfulness. Oh, I remember the puncture [emoticon] so well; pushing a double buggy with a puncture is no joke, and 2 year old ds1 balanced on the top too! I think I had to keep pumping it up every 10 paces to get home and I didn't drive then either. So lovely about your sister's baby though, did it bring back lots of overwhelming baby emotions for you perhaps?
Turfing, that word is fraught with emotion in this house. I'm longing to returf garden but DH is admamant not, and anyway I have no idea who would do it (certainly not the lovely but arthritic builder who finds it difficult kneeling), or what it would involve (carloads of old turf for example and hardly any side access), redoing wretched levels. So far we keep patching it with bits for other parts which are being dug up, odd pieces from B & Q, and it is a dog's dinner to save a £££. So if anyone in London knows a good reasonable landscaper, TELL ME!

DH is now playing Monopoly with the twins, so this is my chance to tidy up, if I can face it Sad Or I suppose I could go to the dump Hmm or [brightens up] plant up some pots at the front! That's an idea.

BitchyInTheCorner · 29/04/2012 11:31

Shit need to go rescue wheelie bin that has just taken off down the road.

Whoknows. how bloody irrasponsbile of them to walking amongst the trees in this weather!! Are they trying to get hit by falling debris? Enjoy the fire sounds lovely. Would light ours but not sure it has been built and i don't know how. Plus we are due out later.

Returfing - dont. Run. flee. hide. lifting turf atm it is a fucking nightmare!!! Getting someone to doit for you is a good plan. Although if it is just relly weedy then there are a lot of good treatments taht really work these day.

Right going to throw clothes on. Rescue wheelie bin and get ds' kit dried for training later. Poor kid is going to be knackered.

ToffeeWhirl · 29/04/2012 11:34

WhoKnows - your house sounds so cosy Smile. I agree with you about staying in today. A friend told me that even her dog won't go out in this weather! 'The Bridge' is on BBC4, by the way. You'll need to catch up online as we've had four episodes so far. I'm hooked.

Trying - oh, that breakfast sounds so delicious and much nicer than my sorry bowl of Special K. But, unless the scales are wrong, I have lost 3Ib this week, so I'm sticking to my boring low-fat diet for now. I don't have a grenade to get me going this morning, but I do have MIL coming to lunch, which gives me a deadline to work towards.

DH has cooked breakfast for the boys, so I am now free to get on with cooking a chicken casserole and then doing a crisis clean. Have swished and swiped in the bathroom already.

Will be cosying up in front of our log-burning stove later Smile.

ToffeeWhirl · 29/04/2012 11:38

Just missed Swan and Bitchy whilst posting .

BitchyInTheCorner · 29/04/2012 11:53

bin rescued
breakfast eaten
kit in tumble dryer.
bitchy back in bed.
extra hour kip needed before i throw kit at child and we head out to training.
Must remember something to do whilst ds trains.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/04/2012 23:02

Evening all,

I decided to crack the whip tonight, having gone on another thread and listed the chores my DCs supposedly do but we have got a bit slack with since Easter. So, the house is looking superficially tidy everywhere, the DCs protested about tidying up as usual, but did a good job with their clean clothes, dirty clothes and putting out clothes for tomorrow. They have also been told that we are going to expect them to keep up the good work and that deductions from pocket money may occur if bad attitudes prevail.

I'm going to stop there as N keeps crashing, one important request as it's nearly the end of the month:

Would anyone like to take over posting links and start a new thread for May?

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/04/2012 23:05

Monday Links

Babystep Look at your calendar for next month.

Sneak Peek

Mission

Monday is Home Blessing Day

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swanthingafteranother · 29/04/2012 23:32

more doom and gloom from this naughty corner Wink

however
Done
Ds1's school blazer washed
Homeland watched
tuna bake cooked
more fence pruning
pork chops with crispy cheesy breadcrumb topping cooked for lunch

no exercise
and no church Blush

worktops wiped, table wiped, dishcloths washed
hall rescued

apart from that, NOTHING, nor is anyone in a particularily good mood

oh dear, better day tomorrow!