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Petition Against Home Ed Register

411 replies

Isawthesigns · 09/11/2021 15:43

Now It Is Evident The Goverment Is Committed To A Register Of Children Not In School Which Will Be Followed By Assessments And Monitoring

Please Sign And Share The Petition Help Us Defend Our Right To HE Without State Interference

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/594065?fbclid=IwAR0o70ZNS9miOu6k8l769Kcu9XJnFbkAYggnqkbHzaknueGt39nnQrbhZTo

OP posts:
Lady1576 · 10/11/2021 10:42

I am pro-home education and I think it can be fantastic for children to have this opportunity. However, as well as your rights, children also have a basic human right to an education, so for me this trumps your right to do whatever you want with your kids. Anyone educating children has training and is subject to oversight, so I don’t see why parents who think they are up to the job shouldn’t be subject to some checks too.

BasementIdeas · 10/11/2021 10:43

@ImUninsultable

The kids already under supervision by SS are found because they're already under supervision!

The kids with no supervision are the ones not being found! There dont go to school, there's no register or any reason for anyone outside the home to have contact with the kids. Do you honestly think none of them are being abused? Because no one can see.

Exactly this!

If anyone finds a petition in support of home ed register please let me know and I’ll sign

Caramellatteplease · 10/11/2021 10:44

I home ed. I'm all for a register

Whinge · 10/11/2021 10:46

I can’t understand why any reasonable person would think a register was a bad idea.

Me either. Alarm bells start ringing when I hear people are opposed to a register, especially if they're also shouting about human rights, as it makes me wonder what they're trying to hide.

Eltonsglasses · 10/11/2021 10:48

Actually every child who has ever been found abused under the guise of home ed was already known to social services so a register is redundant.

How were they all known to SS?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/11/2021 10:49

It’s just encroaching on basic human rights

Really? Exactly which human right does it encroach on and why does this trump children's right to an education (an actual right in the Convention on the Rights of the Child).

Don't get me wrong. I think that a lot of school education is utter rubbish and actually turns young people off learning (I also think a lot of it is excellent). I also think that some home-based education can be excellent. However much of it isn't and it is subject to very few controls leading to children being disadvantaged or harmed. A register would be an excellent first step.

Isawthesigns · 10/11/2021 10:49

@Eltonsglasses

Actually every child who has ever been found abused under the guise of home ed was already known to social services so a register is redundant.

How were they all known to SS?

Because of neighbours and other members of the public.
OP posts:
VincaMinor · 10/11/2021 10:51

I think it's a good idea for both safeguarding and for childrens' right to a decent education standpoint. That doesn't detract from the fact that many might be getting a great education at home and sometimes better than at school.

BackBackBack · 10/11/2021 10:52

Nope. Not signing; I strongly believe there should be an HE register. Objecting on the grounds of human rights is nonsense - your child is presumably had their birth registered and is also registered with a GP and a dentist?

Fujimora · 10/11/2021 10:52

Absolutely agree with a register. It will help to protect those children imprisoned at home with violent, abusive, negligent, fanatical, or mentally ill parents who currently fall under the radar.

It will also highlight the failures of those local authorities who off roll the underperforming, usually vulnerable teens, who are not attending school on a regular basis because they impact adversely on performance tables.

Parents who are providing an education at home for their children have nothing to worry about.

And a right to “home educate” is not a “human right”. It is illegal in many countries eg Germany for all the reasons mentioned above.

strengthinnumber · 10/11/2021 10:53

Of course there should be a register. They're not stopping you home educating your children. They are stopping people failing their children either through abuse or poor home education. I'm baffled that you can't see this.

Very much "I'm all right. My kids are fine. Bugger the other more vulnerable ones"
Are you also a Freeman of the Land? 🤣🤣

elliejjtiny · 10/11/2021 10:54

I think there should be a register. I think that the vast majority of parents who home ed do a great job but it's important that home ed children don't slip through the net when it comes to safeguarding. If school educated children weren't being fed, washed etc at home then school would notice. Home ed children need someone looking out for them too.

flashpaper · 10/11/2021 10:55

I'm surprised that there are over 20,000 signatures on this petition

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 10/11/2021 11:02

My friend home educates, or rather unschools her child and as a teacher she is able to produce fantastic reports and show how incredibly well the child is achieving. In reality, the child is only just starting to read and write age 9 and is massively behind their peers, both socially and educationally. A register would at the very least make sure HE. children were getting a decent standard of education. I will not be signing that petition.

Gardenlass · 10/11/2021 11:04

I'm surprised that anyone is against a register. Children out of school can be subjected to all kinds of neglect and abuse.

Many parents do a good job of HE, especially at primary level, but children need specialist teaching at secondary level.

A register is only the start. Regular home visits are essential, to ensure the child's safety and progress.

Seainasive · 10/11/2021 11:05

It’s not about your rights! It’s about children’s right to a decent education, and their right to be protected from abuse and neglect.

longwayoff · 10/11/2021 11:09

If You Had Spent More Time In School You Would Be Able To Write Correctly. Many home educators do a good job, some do not. No register is a licence for potential abuse.

zoemum2006 · 10/11/2021 11:10

I wouldn’t want the government to interfere with how the children were learning but knowing that the children are learning is important!

Triffid1 · 10/11/2021 11:11

Actually every child who has ever been found abused under the guise of home ed was already known to social services so a register is redundant

Um, I have to hope that you're not home educating your child on logic and argument because this is the silliest argument I've ever heard and demonstrates a lack of understanding on your part.

Of course children who are found to be abused are known to social services - that's part of the process for spotting abuse. But that statistic does not tell us how many children are being abused as part of home education that social services and other authorities know nothing about.... because there's no register and no oversight.

Triffid1 · 10/11/2021 11:14

It's a bit like saying, "every rapist found guilty was known to the police." Um, yes, that's true. But ignores the 1000s of unknown rapists out there.

Lockdownbear · 10/11/2021 11:16

I was stunned to learn years ago there wasn't a register or any checks on these kids they just fall out the system.

I worked with someone who had a friend HE my colleague was convinced the child was being failed and should be in school.

StarryNightSparkles · 10/11/2021 11:16

I home ed my dc and I am 100% all for a register. Why anyone wouldn't be blows my mind.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 10/11/2021 11:20

Whilst the law states that all children between certain ages must go to school or receive alternative appropriate education, I agree with the idea of a register acknowledging that 'we have decided to home educate X' and giving basic details as to the responsible person/people and the regular times when targeted learning will be provided. Too many children completely fall through the cracks and their existence/circumstances aren't even always known about.

However, I can't say I'm in favour of compulsory training, supervision or other 'we know best' approaches by default - except where it becomes clear that the child's needs are not being met.

A lot of parents make the conscious, considered decision to home educate their children when they have reason to believe that mainstream schooling has failed them, for any of a number of reasons, or at least is not helping them to thrive. In such cases, I think it's appalling - and somewhat Kafkaesque - where the same system that might have failed your children, leaving you, as you see it, with no alternative but to do it yourself, then goes on to dictate how you should be doing it, when they apparently couldn't when given the chance.

Yes, home schooling CAN be used as a cover for abuse, but I hate the thought that it should carry a stigma and be viewed as a red flag in itself, when there are no actual tangible reasons for concern.

For plenty of neglectful and abusive parents, the very last thing they'd ever want to countenance would be to actually have to take more responsibility for, and spend more of their time and money on, their children, when they can just bundle them off to school each morning and forget about them for six hours.

Chloemol · 10/11/2021 11:24

Nope I think there should be a register and HE should be subject to assessments and monitoring

End off

StillPerplexed · 10/11/2021 11:33

In most cases the local authority already knows about the children who are being home educated (as they're often previously on school rolls), so in practise it might not change much. I do get the pushback though, as no one likes being inspected no matter what the rationale.

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