Petition Against Home Ed Register

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Now It Is Evident The Goverment Is Committed To A Register Of Children Not In School Which Will Be Followed By Assessments And Monitoring

Please Sign And Share The Petition Help Us Defend Our Right To HE Without State Interference

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I'm planning to HE my kids and wouldn't be opposed to a register.

I was surprised there wasn't a register as I could have done with some help to begin with

There's no connection between help and a register.

We had nothing to hide though,so would have welcomed this.

Ha. You have no idea how many trusting, diligent parents have said the same, only to find that it doesn't matter how good a job you are doing if the premise is you should not be doing it and the agenda is to find some evidence of fault, any fault.

[quote 5zeds]@VincaMinor but if it doesn’t protect children what is the point? Surely the money could be better spent?[/quote]
It's a bit early to write it off as not helping protect children. Maybe ways will be found to help protect children. Not knowing who or where children are certainly isn't going to protect them.

Maybe ways will be found to help protect children but what IS IT FOR in the first place then?

‘ Actually every child who has ever been found abused under the guise of home ed was already known to social services so a register is redundant. ’

This simply isn’t true. The public are not made aware of cases where HE children hitherto unknown to SS were abused or neglected and subsequently placed on a CP plan or removed into care.

The public only know about cases which trigger serious case reviews or prosecution for example. They have no ability or right to know the narrative of children in care, and cannot cite tragic cases in the public realm as evidence of anything more or less widespread.

I home ed my DC and no way would I sign this register, it's needed in some form in my opinion. I am often worried by things I see in online Home Ed groups about the lengths some parents will go to to stay "under the radar". Often seems to go hand in hand with things like being anti-vaccination and conspiracy theories.

Most home-ed parents do a hard and under-appreciated job to an amazing level, but I find the ones that don't are also the most vocal regarding things like oversight.

@5zeds

Maybe ways will be found to help protect children but what IS IT FOR in the first place then?

To prevent kids going off the radar and monitor their well being/right to an education.

Who holds the register really does matter.

@RedCake

Who holds the register really does matter.

Who do you think should hold it, Education or Health service?

Just being curious Education makes more sense to me than Health but the important thing is someone is checking these kids.

We live in a society where parents are not under suspicion by default and the right to bring our children up in privacy is protected. Our decisions regarding our children are ours to make unless it's clear we're unfit. I'm very glad that society is like this. We're able to parent as we think best and tell our children what we believe they need to know. The LEAs plan to shift this for home educating parents if they can. Many parents sign opt out of having a HV. Imagine if you wanted to and couldn't. From a safeguarding perspective, school picks up where the HV ends. If you think school aged children not in school should be on a register and forced to go through mandatory evaluations, clinical and scenic academic, personally you think the HV should be compulsory?

Sorry for typos!

@Lockdownbear I think there are two separate issues. Safeguarding to be held by Health from birth for all children.

HE register and monitoring to be properly developed to be beneficial to all HEders. I would like to see free exams, courses available for parents on how to plan and deliver lessons, review progress etc. Practical sessions funded e.g science and DT. Access to school on-line resources such as MathsWatch etc

The proposed register does neither of the two things.

We also live in a society where some children are never taught to read, some are in extreme under the radar religious schools, and some kids are abused at home.

Somewhere along the line the kids rights to education and protection must trump the parents right to privacy.

And most of all if the education system didn’t fail so many children the number of children being home educated would be smaller.

That's as maybe - but just because the education system failed them doesn't mean the parents should be allowed to.

@SirChenjins sadly children are waiting up to 3 years for support through the NHS and/or LEAs. By the time some children are taken out of school the whole family is suffering trauma and it is a long climb back from that particular hole.

HE is a complex area with many different reasons for choosing it or doing it as a last resort. The children that are neglected won’t suddenly appear on a register.

There already is a register and monitoring which my child is on and we engage in.

That shouldn't give parents free rein to deliver any old standard of education.

And that’s exactly my point - is this a safeguarding exercise or a genuine attempt to help HE deliver a good education?

If it’s safeguarding it needs to be wider and from birth as it won’t capture everyone.

If it’s HE then the proposal needs to detail what the support/action will be if the level of education is not suitable for the age and ability of the child.

Both

So what will happen to those children that are identified as not getting a suitable education?

How will abused children be found?

It’s not a question for you @SirChenjins but for the government.

I would like more clarity and find it difficult to get behind a proposal when there is no detail.

Ok enough of me! It’s been good to debate and think about things.

What responses from the Govt etc did you get when you put those questions to them?

Cross posts!

I put them to my MP and I am still waiting for a response.

Ok really enough of me . I’m coming at it from one perspective.