mum dragging kids from school

[MrsDrOwenHunt]

there is a girl at ds school who is 26 years old and has 5 children under 7 at ds school, let me make myself clear at this stage is not the issue, the issue is that she left school at 17 without any qualifications and is not at all educated, she has claimed benefits all her life and her dp works cash in hand whilst she claims, she also lives in a 2 bedroomed flat which looks like a kim and aggie show, her youngest are 2 and newborn and 3 eldest 5,6 and 8, they are already having problems at school and have hard time fitting in, to make things worse she thinks that she is a muslim and tells her dc regulary that boys are evil etc. she has now decided she wants to home educate and i am appalled, surely she cant do this?

MrsDrOH is a longstanding MNer- I doubt this is a wind-up!!

She certainly understands that the Ishaq case is beyond the pale when it comes to trolling.

I presume MrsDrOH was trying to help her sort her flat out- some people do actually get in a state with their housekeeping, and someone else helping can often be very helpful - anyone remember TR? It certainly went a long way to helping her turn things around.

golden...

If this is real OP and I sadly think it is, speak to the school Head of Year ( Head of Infants/Juniors - whoever you feel will understand this and tell them you are concerned.

I am sure the teachers feel similiar and will be able to work with support agencies if they feel it is required to keep the kids in school if the mother is not up to home-ed. Which is tougher than it appears.

well, being a long standing poster means jack shit really doesn't it. And unless she's name changed she's not been here that long.

yes shirley it is

Baroque- people might say that about your name too!

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thankyou chateau, yes my punctation just flew out of window!!, yes i can totally see why you may think i am being unreasonable and making some of this up, i can assure you i am not and i really am not against home education at all, i think if you can and you do the job properly its just as hood if not better than schools. I dont think i am any kind of saint before anyone asks, i saw this girl was lacking confidence a couple of years ago and went out of my way to befriend her, i went over her house on a daily basis to help her clean up as yes i felt sorry for her, i was the one that cleaned whilst she sat smoking, i helped her out with her dc and then found out she was lying to me and stealing so i ended our friendship. she has no common sense at all and regulary shouts and screams at the dc

baroque you know me and you know that i am not a vicious person, the school are worried too.

Op, I'd report her for kidnapping! She has 5 kids under 7 but you mention an 8 year old.

DelicateFluffyBunny - I did a doulbe take at that too. BUT the OP mentions the ages of the 5 under 7, and then also adds about the 8yr old

Perhaps the 8 year old is at a junior school rather than an infant school with the rest.

This all hinges on several things.........

plasma tv

sky packages

fruitshoots

sausage rolls

nice ham

moon cups

and whether she breast fed or bottle fed.

in the famous words of my deceased mother SNOUT OUT.

have you no business of your own to mind?

sorry i am crap at ages, the eldest has just turned 8,

Lets hope that she with all her poor education can remember the childrens ages.

sometimes mumsnetters really piss me off.

no ham she is muslim x i would normally keep my snout out but i looked after the dc and grew close to them i worry about them, i hope she changes her mind because they deserve more

nick if you knew me you wouldnt say that, i am not like that at all

I think you should keep out- just bcos she doesnt meet the criteria of what you think a home educator should be doesnt mean she wouldnt do a v good job.

I think the OP is trying to point out that the children's mother is unlikely to have the resources to HE her children- it sounds as though they have little structure in their lives other than at school, and that would be removed from them.

The OP knows these children, has been and spent time in their home, and has concerns for their welfare- that is surely a good thing not a bad one.

One of my best friends at school grew up in a filthy house, Mum shouted/smoked/gambled and generally didn't care, Dad emotionally abusive. If they had taken her out of school on top of that, I can't imagine what would have happened to her. School was her only sanity. It saved her.

So OP, I completely understand what you are saying.

Seriously MrsDrOH- raise it with the CP person at school- they will know what actions if any to take.

she wont do a good job because she is not interested in teaching them anything, she is interested in having the easy life, how can she home educate? she has a 2 bedroomed flat she has a baby and a toddler, the middle one has needs that cant be met at home, how can you do it? in a room in smoke fumes with baby crying and the dc being at diffrent stages, i dont give an arse about how she lives but she knows first hand how she has sufferred because she had a bad education why do it to your own dc?

The baby's HV may already have raised concerns tbh from what you describe.

thankyou chateau and her dc have been cring at school because they dont want to leave thier friends, they are cooped up at home all day everyday, she doesnt let them mix and when they plays up she screams at them, i tried to help really i did and when we stopped talking she told them to ignore me in the street.

the hv is always fobbed off and i have raised my concerns, i organised a homestart volunteer for her and she eventually stopped her coming, i say again i am worried for her dc, just because they are the ones that are suffering