Villa split between childfree couples and families

[Adrianne1234]

Trying to organise a long weekend away (2 nights) with a group of friends for autumn and this is the group split:

Family 1: 2 adults & 2 kids
Family 2: 2 adults & 2 kids
Family 3: 2 adults & 1 kid
Family 4: 2 adults
Family 5: 2 adults

We don't seem to agree on how the total price would be split. The house has 6 bedrooms. 3 family rooms (king beds + single beds) with ensuite bathrooms, 2 standard double rooms and 1 room with 2 single beds for "extra space" (6th room is not claimed by anyone but deemed necessary by the parents to have additional space).

2/3 families seem to think the total bill should be split by couple, without considering the kids.
1/3 families and the 2 adults families think that the families should pay more because despite everyone technically occupying 1 room, some rooms are family rooms.

To state the significance of this, if we wanted to find accommodation for 10 adults, the price per couple would be around half the one we are paying to have a place that can accomodate all the kids/has the right sort of family rooms.

If it was to be split by couple, price would be £550 per couple, which seems pretty steep for families without kids (that also end up getting the crappier rooms).

Food bills will be split amongst adults so kids won't pay for that which has been agreed by everyone.

Thoughts?

I think if I was one of the childfree couples I'd drop out of the arrangement and find a hotel in the area. For £550 for two nights I'd expect a nice room with en suite, breakfast and possibly dinner, too. I'd come and visit you lot in your ridiculously expensive rental and then return to my civilised hotel. Sorry, OP, not helpful, I know.

The kids at half price seems an ok way to do it.

I think they should get their kids food. Kids food can be expensive.

This x100.

OP, why are you willing to subsidize the children's food?

As a pp said, back out while you can. Or at least insist the childfree get the en-suites. Do you really want to be queuing up to use the toilet and shower?

So you have 10 adults and 5 children staying.
Say you only need 5 double/ king size rooms.

The ones who want an extra will have to pay for the extra room.

That the family room is worth an extra £50 on the trip, because they have a bathroom and beds...

So £2650 for 5 groups.
Means £550 for a family.
£500 for the singles.
If anyone wants the spare room for their children.
They would have to treat it like a 6th group and pay one third of the costs.
Personally I reckon find 1/ 2 bed villas and all share.

We split it per person. Recent example my husband and I went on holiday with daughter, her friend and a family friend. Our friend paid 20% and I paid 80% for our family including daughter’s friend. Those with children should not be subsidised by those who don’t.

Well the ones in the family rooms are getting four sleeping spaces & the ones in a double only two.

So I'd be looking along those lines I think.

I think this is about right although it still seems a very good deal for the family with only one child - they could pay something closer to the cost of the two kids. And I say this as parent of an only!

And that 6th bedroom needs to be costed in -- either it's a kids' den in which case it's costed out accordingly and split 2/5, 2/5, 1/5 between all the families with kids. OR it is given to the childless as a wine den / dressing room to make up for sharing a bathroom etc.

When I go on holiday in a large group with extended family, we pay per head. I have kids, no one else does so it always costs me more but I don’t care one bit as that’s the fairest way.

Honestly, some people on here are so obsessed with working out share of bills/holidays etc with partners/friends/families and seem to keep a running tally in their head of every penny everyone has spent/not spent in social and domestic situations…it must be so exhausting. I can’t stand quibbling so much over money and couldn’t spend my time with people that do - and no, I am definitely not rich!!

I can’t believe you’ve all agreed to split the food bill amongst adults only. You’re going to be subsidising a shit ton of fries and sides and food that won’t be eaten. Not to mention all the 2nd or 3rd drinks the kids wouldn’t usually be allowed at home. These kids are 5-8 years old and sometimes won’t be eating off the children’s menu so you’ll be paying full priced dinners. Your friends with children are cheeky fs.

If you all pay the same, then technically all the rooms are up for grabs, so you could (without children) choose the family room as it is nicer than the smaller room. That should put the focus on who pays more.

This seems fair but if you want to simplify things just add on 100 to the ensuite rooms, so they are paying for a bigger room and a bathroom rather than their dc. You are crazy subsidising the kids meals, as pp said you will be paying for lots of stuff that the dc will want but end up not eating.

Yeah I definately don’t think it should be an even split.
For me the style of room has a lot to do with it.
The family rooms have kings bed vs doubles which automatically makes them more expensive. Then they have to take into account the kids beds. Plus it’s en-suite. They should be much more expensive than a simple double.

Personally I would split it like the following:

Family 1 - £672.23
Family 2 - £672.23
Family 3 - £672.23
Couple 1 - £366.67
Couple 2 - £366.67

This accounts for families having a better room plus they take on the cost of the extra room they insisted on having.
no reason for you to bear the cost when it isn’t necessary.

Their bill may seem much higher but they’ve got bigger rooms, en-suite plus access to the spare room. It all adds up.

Or even 150 extra for the ensuites, which would work out at 460 for the double rooms, and 610 for the ensuite Kings.

I'd guess the extra room is a boomboom room for the parents. Sock on the door when occupied.

I'd never expect anyone to sub me for my kids. Kids food can be really pricy.

Its similar to the assumption that child free people will want to get shitfaced on New Years Eve so wont mind swapping Christmas Day shifts with parents every fucking year.

Children definitely half adult cost especially if the group has already agreed to discount children from food shop. So if it was 550 per couple you should be looking at £2750/12.5 giving £440 per couple £550 for the 1 child family and £660 for the two child families. You don’t book a package holiday and pay nothing for your children so why should this be any different.

Always love these threads, everyone thinks it sounds a wonderful idea when they are a bit pissed and then the calculators come out...... 😂

Also, they are already lucky re the food costs as I spend far more on my kids food than I do on ours!

13 people. Divide total by 13. Each pays their share .
Eg cost 1300 each person pays £100pp.
I wouldn't be subsiding a person with kids if I didn't have any.

Sorry meant 15 people not 13

We've just done this. So say it was £1600 we divided that between the 12 people (adults and kids) so it's £134 per person. So we a family of 4 (2 adults 2 kids) have paid £536. My parents have paid £268. That way the adults aren't penalised for the kids xx

I was just going to suggest exactly
this and I’d do the same for the food. Why is anybody other than the parents paying for children’s food?

Can you just divide it by 15 for the number of people and then multiply that by the number per family as their contribution. So you would pay whatever 2x15ths of the cost is and the families would pay either 3x15ths of the cost or 4 x 15ths of the cost?

I would do it by room. Family room with ensuite is worth 1.75x the cost of the basic room. The sixth room is then split three ways and added into the family costs as they are the ones who wanted it.

I also wouldn't cover the kids' food.

The families are CF!!

I know various childfree people who refuse to go away in groups with families because so many parents pull this shit.