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How to afford a holiday? I feel a bit desperate.

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ShowOfHands · 29/04/2023 11:10

Apologies if this is long.

Holidays in our family are nearly always camping and we've spent a lot of time in Devon for example. We've also seen quite a bit of Scotland. However, because DH is a police officer and never, ever gets any time off in summer, it's usually me taking the children away while he carries on working and him joining us on rest days. He also uses a lot of his leave to take his army cadets away (we live in a socially deprived area and are very short of adult volunteers for anything and as he points out to me, if he didn't take them away, the detriment would be to already disadvantaged children). DH is a police officer of the best part of two decades and I teach part time so we can and do take the children to the things they enjoy like theatre, museums, galleries, local events, festivals etc and they have hobbies. They certainly don't miss out but we've never had big family holidays.

This year, my parents invited us to a long weekend at Center Parcs a few weeks ago and due to how DH's rest days fell, we booked 3 nights in an Airbnb in Northumberland over Easter. Those were our holidays this year. Sadly, DH had a nasty accident on day one of CP and ended up in quite unwell in hospital. He needed surgery once he'd recovered from the initial injuries, sod's law saw the surgery scheduled on day 2 of us going to Northumberland. So the DC went to grandparents for a few days and I took DH to a specialist hospital miles away for surgery. The Easter holidays were a wash out and we didn't even manage a day out as a family as DH's recovery and ongoing concussion meant he wasn't well at all.

DH's work have - for the first time in his entire career - found a way to give him time off in summer in recognition of things being a bit crap right now. He is on light duties for another 4 weeks and needs more x-rays to make sure he's put back together/holding together properly. He has his normal 4 rest days and 6 whole days after that. 10 days off together in summer! That never happens. We talked about it and thought maybe we could go abroad for a week. DD is mid GCSEs, DS is doing SATs and it seems like a landmark summer. It's been a tough year in myriad ways. I got a bit excited/carried away and ordered passports. We talked about it with the children, they both said Amsterdam was somewhere they wanted to see. Me too.

I've tried my hardest to make it work. I've tried looking at package deals, booking things separately, ferries rather than flights, trains rather than ferries. I can't find any way of affording it. I knew summer holiday breaks are expensive but I'm flabbergasted.

I'm trying to make it work in my head. I considered camping via Eurocamp or similar but we've camped. We always camp. We're campers. The children want to do something else and if I'm honest, me too. I take them away myself every summer and I usually don't mind the whole putting up tents in the rain, beans over a stove, making it fun stuff. I've done it for years. But part of me does wonder what it's like not to sweep the groundsheet each morning and to have to walk to the toilet block in wellies at 6am. And I do love all that stuff. When talking to DD's friends about their trips to Costa Rica or Spain or Disney or whatever, I've never felt a single pang of envy. But right now, I'm feeling so miserable.

DD is doing French GCSE and her answer to the oral q about holidays is a very honest "we camp and my Mum works really hard, it's always an adventure and I used to love it but it's become repetitive and I'd like to see the world when I'm older". I know it's an effort to use lots of tenses(!), but there is probably some truth in there. Definitely some truth in there. I know it.

So do we stay in the UK? I thought about staying somewhere really nice but tbh, we tend to only use accommodation as a base so what about some amazing days out. I asked DD this morning and she said "what about Ireland?" Probably a good suggestion actually. Or Wales maybe but I'm aware I want to go there because of the mining museum and I'm trying to make it special for the children. Trouble is, one likes art, history and galleries and the other likes anything naff, ride-based or celluloid.

Can anybody suggest anything? Location? Anywhere considered. Ways to cut costs? What works for you? Should I scrimp on accommodation and spend on days out?

I don't like hotels really as eating out is always so expensive and we like to cook/watch a film in an evening. Self catering preferred.

Is there a brilliant holiday for two 40 somethings, a 16yo girl and 11yo boy that we can actually afford? Has anybody ever put a holiday on a credit card?

If it's all just pie in the sky, I'll forget about it entirely but I'm ill in bed with Covid and feeling glum and wishing I could book just a week away with my family who've had a challenging year in so many ways.

Budget? I don't know. We usually book a £25 per night camping pitch. Everything in Amsterdam was coming in at 3k for just flights and accommodation. Under 2k, we could probably borrow from savings and cut right back to afford it but I don't think that buys a week abroad does it?

I feel a bit of a failure that at this point in my life, I can't afford a week's holiday for us but at the same time, feel like an ungrateful wazzock because holidays are a luxury and we could afford to camp for a week somewhere quite easily but we are wanting to do more and that feels ridiculous and silly and the sadness is pathetic isn't it? It's probably the Covid talking.

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TiredandLate · 29/04/2023 11:55

I have looked at Amsterdam a few times and it always seems incredibly expensive compared to other European cities, especially accommodation.

Eindhoven is a couple of hours outside Amsterdam, it has it's own airport and you could easily travel into Amsterdam for the day or overnight but base yourselves there?

Budapest was very reasonably priced compared to Amsterdam last time I was searching.

Brussels or Bruges may also come in cheaper?

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 29/04/2023 11:56

We keep ourselves to ourselves on holiday but have had a good time in some campsites in lodges. Huttopia ones in France for example have some that are labelled "quiet" and really are. Arena in Croatia on the other hand while a fantastic holiday overall did require ear plugs. But that was mainly because we'd coincided with a festival across the bay.

It Stanstead airport not too far for you? Lots of very cheap flights there. Just putting you in as a family of 4 on random dates in the summer for a week there are flights to Germany, Netherlands, Italy etc from around the £50-55 mark. Were going to Sorrento later in the year and as a ballpark we've got an apartment for the week for around £350. It looks a bit on the shabby side but all we need is a bed and a place to cook!

Pearfacebananapoop · 29/04/2023 11:56

Suggestions -

  • Wales is great - you mention it and there is lots to do but can be spread out. You could stay Cardiff side, drive out to Monmouthshire for great walks or down to the coast for beaches plus fun fair at Barry for your son. Obviously lots to do in Cardiff as well. But the weather can be v changeable! We stayed in an Air B n B in a village called St Andrews Major last year that was lovely and really reasonable.
  • new suggestion for you - East Algarve. So most of the resorts Brits go to are in the West Algarve. The East is where the Portugese go on holiday. Get a cheap flight to Faro and then an Air BnB, we've done it before very reasonably. Look at the areas of Tavira and Cabanas de Tavira. Tavira is like the Venice of Portugal and the whole geology around there is lovely. It is predominantly a beach area but lots of interesting things to see and do.
  • look at Jet2 City Breaks - there packages are really good value, not sure if they do Amsterdam or not but Berlin, Rome etc.
ShowOfHands · 29/04/2023 11:59

Tiggy321 · 29/04/2023 11:37

There's a Dutch hostel company called Stayokay. They are great and don't feel like hostels at all. We did a family stay in one in Arnheim a couple of years ago- 3 teens and 2 adults. You do have to sleep in bunk beds but have private bathrooms and breakfast etc. There is one in Amsterdam. You can hire bikes etc from them. Full of families and cyclists. Really nice atmosphere.

Our honeymoon was in youth hostels!

Absolutely no problem with them as a cheap alternative. I am looking at this for sure.

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serialgrannie · 29/04/2023 11:59

Op - your post really struck a cord with me. We are now old and can afford lovely holidays but I do remember how I would have loved something other than camping when the children were with us. I am a keen travel planner and have looked at the Eurocamp suggestion and I would really second that. I have family in the Netherlands and they usually go to one of the Eurocamp sites there for their holidays and love it. You could get a really nice lodge type accommodation, sleeping 6, with lots to do and Eurotunnel Folkestone to Calais w/c 23 July and it comes in at under £2,000. Hope you find something but you will need to get your skates on as things are v booked up in the summer now.

HolidaysSunnyDays · 29/04/2023 12:00

Take another look a Eurocamp/Canvas Holidays etc. You can either get a v comfortable mobile home, or if that's out of budget, just arrive and use one of their tents. Resort facilities, great kids' entertainment and play areas, usually on the beach or very near, good pools. Not to mention decent restaurants on site, and your own BBQ provided. We had loads of trips when kids were aged between about 5 and 18. I look back with great nostalgia and fondness! We preferred to drive down to the Vendee coast for almost guaranteed wall to wall sunshine.

HolidaysSunnyDays · 29/04/2023 12:01

PS even when we had mobile home with shower, we always used shower blocks for more space. They wet sparkling, at any hour. Great communal facilities

ShowOfHands · 29/04/2023 12:01

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 29/04/2023 11:37

My starting point would be to look at where you can get cheap flights to. Use skyscanner as you can select an airport bar you and then leave the destination as "anywhere". One you've got a likely destination take a look at campsites around (renting a static or lodge) and vrbo for accommodation.

Most of our holidays for many years were about finding a rough area we might want to visit and then the cheapest accommodation we could find. Then we would plan 1 paid for big treat activity and everything else we did would be free except for an ice cream a day. An ice cream a day is the summer holiday rule! On occasion we've had 2 in a day....... even though the oldest is now 16 it is still very much a family tradition to mark how good days are by the number of ice creams!

Er, what if you... um... don't like ice-cream? 🫣

Gingerbread men fit the same bill, right?

(I don't like picnics or barbecues either, I'm not very good at summer tbh!)

I never admit any of these things irl. I've hosted and attended so many BBQs and picnics as a front.

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Crazykatie · 29/04/2023 12:02

This year overseas is expensive especially during school holidays, we were planning a few days in Florence but the total cost became unreasonable, it’s the UK this year.

motherofawhirlwind · 29/04/2023 12:02

No suggestions but also wanted to say your daughter sounds fab (hEDS?)

Floralnomad · 29/04/2023 12:03

Have a look at the European Centerparcs , I’ve just had a quick look and there is one near Amsterdam that you could do Mon - fri in Aug for under £1500 , they are much cheaper than UK Centerparcs .

JJJSchmidt · 29/04/2023 12:03

Have you looked at the centerparcs in Europe? They are roughly a quarter of the price of the UK ones and you can also get very reasonably priced breakfasts delivered to your door which are in fact enough for lunch as well, which h means that you only need to work out dinners. Activities are also much cheaper than ours, and many free ones too. Der eemhof is about 45 mins train from Amsterdam, we stayed last year and my parents easily did a day trip into the city using the buses and trains.

ShowOfHands · 29/04/2023 12:03

Squamata · 29/04/2023 11:37

Don't get into debt for the sake of a holiday. Not worth it. Ireland can be really expensive too!

Think about less touristy cities, find where your local airport flies to and research those locations. Eg instead of Amsterdam you could go to another Dutch city. Unless you're set on seeing all the Van Goghs etc, the other cities offer lots of good things.

Think about Eastern or Central European cities too - cost of accommodation and food will be much less and it's less stressful being somewhere where you're not jostling with tourists all the time. We've had a great time in Brno in Czech Republic for example, or try somewhere like Slovenia or Poland.

You could also look at flying to a city near your destination and spending a day or two then getting the train - so fly to another Dutch city and get the train.

Have you looked at rail and sail tickets? They cover the train to a port, the ferry over, then a train the other end - can work out much cheaper and they go to Holland.

Eurocamp is not as grim as normal camping, you have a toilet and shower etc. We've done lovely holidays in Brittany for £1k - £1.5k including ferry, if you just do self catering and go to beaches or stay on a site with a pool then you can avoid spending much there.

I started looking at rail and sail but only going away for a week all in meant that we would be spending a significant proportion of the time travelling. I don't mind that as trains in particular are my passion. I'd sit on a train all day every day. But my family fail to understand my love of trains.

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Blueberrycreampie · 29/04/2023 12:04

Hoppinggreen · 29/04/2023 11:51

We are flying to Milan for around £500 for 3 adults and one teen. We have quite a nice villa booked but there must be cheaper accommodation available.
Also we own a 3 bedroom apartment in Spain and we won’t be there this summer. We do have some rentals but if it’s doable for you I would be happy to let you have it for a week at a good discount given your circumstances. Flights are to Faro and are usually not too pricey if you pick the right times/dates and you might also want to hire a car. I reckon you could do it all for under £3000

Lovely!

AwkwardPaws27 · 29/04/2023 12:07

Has anybody ever put a holiday on a credit card?

Yes - we always use a credit card as its more protection if something goes wrong. Usually I've had the full amount in savings to then pay it off, but on a few occasions we've booked without having full funds and then paid it off later, as long as we've had a solid realistic plan to pay it off. We use a zero % credit card, so no interest as long as you pay it off within that period.

I wouldn't use it as an excuse to go mad with spending though; work out what you could realistically pay off within say 6 or 9 months, & use that as your budget.

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 29/04/2023 12:07

Gingerbread men obviously too. Though may need to take your own supply. Didn't read well the OP was when I posted! waves you know I was just thinking about you the other day and trying to remember when you were going to be in my neck of the woods but clearly you missed it. Very sorry to hear it and hope your DH is recovering well.

Haus1234 · 29/04/2023 12:08

Have you looked at Eurostar + hotel bookings for Amsterdam? I can get it below £2K for Monday to Friday for 2 rooms but does depend on dates eg https://packages.eurostar.com/uk-en/amsterdam?arrivalDate=2023-08-14&duration=4&origin=london&rooms=30_9%2C30_15

Train + Hotel | Eurostar.com

https://packages.eurostar.com/uk-en/amsterdam?arrivalDate=2023-08-14&duration=4&origin=london&rooms=30_9%2C30_15

Haus1234 · 29/04/2023 12:08

The train is super easy and quick as well so doesn’t take too much out of your holiday!

Pearfacebananapoop · 29/04/2023 12:08

Oh if you love trains then also lots of railways in Wales 🤣 I've done the Ffestiniog but that's in the north. You've also got the one that goes up Snowdon.

Blueberrycreampie · 29/04/2023 12:08

Don't know if you have any Clubcard points, but you get 3 times the value on Eurotunnel and on eg IOW ferry, plus lots of attractions in the U.K.

AnythingMuppetTM · 29/04/2023 12:11

If either of you are in a union they may have a reduced price holiday place. UNISON has one, I think it's in Croyde Bay.

TolkiensFallow · 29/04/2023 12:12

I actually would put a holiday on a credit card. As long as it’s not totally crazy money (like 10k) and you have a plan to pay it back, the world won’t end and you will all remember it given that it will be so different for you.

in terms of Amsterdam, it’s amazing but I wouldn’t recommend peak summer - it will be rammed with tourists, crazy expensive and I’d recommend September/October or spring as a lovely time to visit. Don’t feel you have to stay city centre - as long as there is a tram near, you’ll be in the centre in seconds.

what about Barcelona or Berlin? Loads of galleries and culture?

ShowOfHands · 29/04/2023 12:13

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 29/04/2023 12:07

Gingerbread men obviously too. Though may need to take your own supply. Didn't read well the OP was when I posted! waves you know I was just thinking about you the other day and trying to remember when you were going to be in my neck of the woods but clearly you missed it. Very sorry to hear it and hope your DH is recovering well.

Ohhhhh it's you. Hello matey. I would have been so close to you and we could have had cake and tea. The big one is seriously considering uni near you and was desperate to have a poke around. We will definitely come up at least for a day/night camping if we can as I have an annual ticket to Beamish that runs out in August. It is my favourite place in the world and I want to go before the ticket expires.

DH is okay. Back to hospital next week and we are praying that he gets some sensation back in his face/mouth as he keeps biting his cheek and tongue when talking and eating. The surgery was significant though and only done at Easter. It will take some time to heal and without surgery, he'd have no chance of the nerve healing. He has 50/50 odds this way. The moral of the story is, wear a bike helmet. The fractures and damage to his face and the damage to his bike helmet are testament to this. Had he not been wearing it, well, I can't quite let my brain go there.

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Whatevergetsyouthroughthenight · 29/04/2023 12:13

Have you checked for any discounts you can get through the Blue Light Card as your DH is a police officer?

Also sorry to potentially make things worse, but if your husband has had a serious injury and surgery I would check how much holiday insurance is going to cost to go abroad before booking and make sure you declare his injury etc. The good news is that finding a specialist insurance company where you declare ‘pre existing conditions’ might not be anymore expensive as customers are usually more on top of their health so the insurance company knows what they are signing up for.

Mooshamoo · 29/04/2023 12:14

You said your nearest airport is Norwich. When I fly from Ireland to England, I've looked at flights to Norwich and at flights to London. Flights to/from Norwich are always ten times more expensive than flights to/from London. Because there are less airlines/routes.

I would definitely advise you to get a train and fly out of London. It will be much cheaper than flying from Norwich airport.