They've just decided Richard III won't be buried in York

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

You have to look at this document:

www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/richard-3rd-judgment-.pdf

It is cracking me up, properly. There's something so funny about seeing it all set out like that.

Just seen Tom Holland on twitter suggest Fotheringhay, the church where many York royals were buried. What do you think?

Why is that White horse all over the place? Does it just not like the crowd or is it beign ridden like that deliberately for a reason? I've been watching it for a good half hour.

My mum reckons he should be buried at Middleham Castle.

That's a ruin, though.

And I'm not sure it's consecrated ground.

That's what I told her.

He's got more of a connection to York than Leicester. With him being a monarch there's an arguement for Westminster Abbey as well.

Westminster would've been my preference (his wife is there) but it's pretty full!

The man died in 1485 so why on earth am I weeping!?

Yes I think Westminster would have been the better place.

What's happening on Thursday then if all this is going on today. My mum wanted me to trek over to Leicester to see him lying in state so I guess he spends 4 days lying in state. Then another big ceremony on Thursday?

I think being buried somewhere for 500 years gives quite a link!

If the friary was still there I suspect that he'd've stayed there with a bigger monument.

Lets face it the only reason there was ever a fight over where he should be re-buried was because the various locations wanted a piece of the tourism money. Nothing to do with the deceased's wishes at all

Honestly. How utterly disrespectful of the deceased. Westminster Abbey in my view should have been chosen as a 'neutral place' next to his wife and this whole ungodly and grubby legal fight could have been avoided.

I am from York.

Mmm. I think it's reasonably in keeping, TBH. If you died and were buried somewhere where people might come to visit your grave, you'd be quite chuffed and you'd be aware it had economic implications for that place, I think. There's plenty of awareness that the business around visiting someone's grave is partly economic and partly to do with the dead person.

There's no room next to his wife, Beta.

But then, I am from near Leicester.

Yonic, he is Richard of York!

I am finding it all very moving. DH doesn't see the point of all this.

Hence RIII moving H6's tomb to st George's Windsor - he wanted the offerings

All that means is that he is of the York family not the Lancaster family. Edward of York (Edward IV) was buried in Windsor, for example.

He was never Duke of York; that was his father.

His father was knighted in Leicester, incidentally.

My mum is catching the first bus into Leicester tomorrow,to pay her respects at the cathedral. I wanted to take the DDs,but by the time they are out of school, I won't have time to drive in before it closes at 5pm. I think the white horse was jigging about because the pacecwas very slow and it wanted to speed up. One if ours was doing that a the cross country yesterday, because she was tired of waiting and wanted to get going. It wasn't bothered by the roses being thrown,you could tell by its ears.

Me too. I thought he died on the battlefield and was buried there and it later became a car park. And didn't know he was buried in a monastery graveyard. And didn't realise this was the history thread.

I thought that until fairly recently, vivienne, and I, erm, technically am a medievalist lecturer-type person. So you're in good company with the blushing.

Just started to watch the c4 coverage. The head!

Starkey made some of that unbearable to watch - he was so unbelievably rude!

Apparently PL is writing a screen Play and wants Richard Armitage as RIII.

Blimey, we are going to be overrun with the RA and the BC appreciation societies soon

I'm just watching a recording of CH4 coverage. Wonder why the BBC couldn't be bothered with it.

I think it's right he stays in Leicester. He's been there for 500+ years. That was more than enough time for anyone to have found him and claimed him.

Of course there is the tourist money I suppose but surely York and London have plenty of that. Richard 111 has always been part of Leicester's history. Nottingham had Robin Hood (the goody) and Leicester had Richard(the baddy).

Thomas Wolsey is buried in Leicester too. Maybe they can find him. There's plenty of room in St Martin's.