Predictions- just angry and hurt for my dd.

PinkChaires · 2025-07-02T06:32:00+00:00

for context, my dd attends a very very large well regarded sixth form college where departments basically work completely separately on her biology mock, she got a B ( this was in feb -dont get me started on how i think it was far too early) she got As on every test all year around minus one in jan which was deemed as unnecessarily hard by her teacher at parents evening. She got told at parents evening by her teacher with me there that she would get an A prediction post mock and she then went on to get a A on the next test. She has gotten a B prediction today. Shes really upset since she thought she would be getting A*AA so all of her plans are out the window.

Eastendboysandwestendgirls · 02/07/2025 07:35

She's in y12?
You are being unnecessarily dramatic. It's a mock. If she wants the A, she needs to work harder. You being 'hurt and angry' is pointless and I'm not really sure why you are being so OTT.

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PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 07:40

Eastendboysandwestendgirls · 02/07/2025 07:35

She's in y12?
You are being unnecessarily dramatic. It's a mock. If she wants the A, she needs to work harder. You being 'hurt and angry' is pointless and I'm not really sure why you are being so OTT.

Its not a mock, the mock was back in feb.
this is her ucas prediction.
yes i am, because this is her future we are talking about. All of the unis we were looking at have gone out of the window. Obviously she will work very hard for it come September and speak with her teacher.

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Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 02/07/2025 07:41

Are these final for UCAS or is there a chance to increase it before applications go in.

Octavia64 · 02/07/2025 07:43

ex teacher.

the regular tests are easier to get higher grades on as they usually have only a few questions.

the best predictor of how a student will do in the exam is a mock exam. It’s got the right variety of questions and is the right length.

that said, speak to the teacher. Sometimes you can sit another mock and look at the result from that.

Feb is early for a mock paper.

YellowGrey · 02/07/2025 07:45

At my DC's school there is still time for the predictions to change at this point. Talk to the teacher and ask if there is still a chance for her to earn an A.

Ignore @Eastendboysandwestendgirls as I'm not sure they understand the UCAS application process.

AliMonkey · 02/07/2025 07:49

DC’s’ schools were open to changes, usually via sitting another exam in Sept. But also remember that if the prediction is only one grade off what she’d hoped for, the unis may still offer, it’s just that the offer will be higher than predicted grades.

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PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 07:54

I dont really like the college policy of releasing the grades a day after they finish. They should at least be able to discuss it with teachers. (Although i do understand why)
dripfeed, and i know this will sound horrible but a girl in dds class who got no higher than a C on class tests except for most recent one and a D on the mock has gotten a B prediction as well. Is this not very unfair?

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Sidebeforeself · 02/07/2025 07:57

Seriously get some perspective.Her whole future does not rest on this one predicted grade

Keepingthingsinteresting · 02/07/2025 07:58

PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 07:54

I dont really like the college policy of releasing the grades a day after they finish. They should at least be able to discuss it with teachers. (Although i do understand why)
dripfeed, and i know this will sound horrible but a girl in dds class who got no higher than a C on class tests except for most recent one and a D on the mock has gotten a B prediction as well. Is this not very unfair?

Comparison is the thief of joy, but also you don’t have all the info so don’t compare with other people. If you really think it’s wrong talk to the head of hear who will be able to explain it, otherwise just plan for a year out and apply again with the real grades in hand. One year over the course of a life is no big deal.

LightCameraBitchSmile · 02/07/2025 07:59

But it can depend on that. It’s going to stop her from applying to the university course she wants. It IS a big deal.

OP talk to the teacher, they don’t want to stand in her way.

WombatChocolate · 02/07/2025 07:59

It is always worth a polite enquiry by email. None of this ‘angry and hurt’ stuff.
State the test results and conversations had - and enquire as to whether the prediction given is correct and if there is an opportunity for further work to see it increase and if so, what timescales are. State you’re happy to come in and have a chat about it.

You can state the courses she’s looking at and requirements - but this won’t determine the grades. It has to be the other way round.

There can be flexibility and a conversation quite often. But you have to engage proactively and also accept they will have final decision.

At the same time, make sure your DD is engaging in wider reading she can refer to and other super curriculars as these all boost her case.

Let us know how you get on …but no need to feel hurt or angry, but def a need to enquire further if you think it’s not right.

itsgettingweird · 02/07/2025 08:04

Flip it around.

if the teacher was to incorrectly predict her an A and she applied for Unis based on A* AA and then got a B she would t be able to attend all the Unis she’s applied for either.

It may be more disappointing if she wasn’t prepared to it and didn’t have the time to plan for it.

PollyBell · 02/07/2025 08:07

It is up to your child to do their best it is not up to anyone else and no it doesn't matter ehat other children do that is none of your business

Octavia64 · 02/07/2025 08:08

PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 07:54

I dont really like the college policy of releasing the grades a day after they finish. They should at least be able to discuss it with teachers. (Although i do understand why)
dripfeed, and i know this will sound horrible but a girl in dds class who got no higher than a C on class tests except for most recent one and a D on the mock has gotten a B prediction as well. Is this not very unfair?

There will be a department wide policy on predicting grades.

it will not be at the discretion of the individual teacher.

in general unit or in class tests are not really considered and the mock grade is inportant.

for obvious reasons if someone is ill on the day of the mock or their dad just died etc there is discretion to not base the predicted grade on the mock.

your child needs to talk to their teacher. There is generally a way (usually sitting an extra mock in september) to adjust the predicted grades.

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PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 08:08

we and they have been told explicitly many times that we cannot email or make any contact until sep. we will honour that. She is also getting a new teacher in sep so the grade will be discussed with the new teacher and they have been already told about a test so will work very hard for that. I wish they had a mock in September. The feb mock was far too early in my virw

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PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 08:09

Octavia64 · 02/07/2025 08:08

There will be a department wide policy on predicting grades.

it will not be at the discretion of the individual teacher.

in general unit or in class tests are not really considered and the mock grade is inportant.

for obvious reasons if someone is ill on the day of the mock or their dad just died etc there is discretion to not base the predicted grade on the mock.

your child needs to talk to their teacher. There is generally a way (usually sitting an extra mock in september) to adjust the predicted grades.

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This is what i dont get. The policy is to predict one grade up from the mock?

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Octavia64 · 02/07/2025 08:17

The policy will not be as simple as “predict one grade up from the mock”.

for example, students who get Es in the mock very rarely pull themselves up to a D in the real thing. An E in the mock is an indication that they are not really coping with the content and the second year is usually harder than the first. So a student who gets an E in the mock will generally be predicted an E.

equally, if a student got a B in the mock but got the highest possible mark for a B then it will be very easy for them to pull up to a A. But a student who got the lowest possible mark for a B has got much further to go.

we used to predict on average two thirds of a grade up, which pushed some students up to the next grade and others not. In practice it very much depended on their work ethic as well - a student who wasn’t engaging in class and was missing homeworks etc etc was less likely to make progress.

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PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 08:22

Octavia64 · 02/07/2025 08:17

The policy will not be as simple as “predict one grade up from the mock”.

for example, students who get Es in the mock very rarely pull themselves up to a D in the real thing. An E in the mock is an indication that they are not really coping with the content and the second year is usually harder than the first. So a student who gets an E in the mock will generally be predicted an E.

equally, if a student got a B in the mock but got the highest possible mark for a B then it will be very easy for them to pull up to a A. But a student who got the lowest possible mark for a B has got much further to go.

we used to predict on average two thirds of a grade up, which pushed some students up to the next grade and others not. In practice it very much depended on their work ethic as well - a student who wasn’t engaging in class and was missing homeworks etc etc was less likely to make progress.

The exact words said at parents evening were: if she continues to achieve A in her next test, i am very happy to predict her an A according to our department policy

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KimHwn · 02/07/2025 08:23

itsgettingweird · 02/07/2025 08:04

Flip it around.

if the teacher was to incorrectly predict her an A and she applied for Unis based on A* AA and then got a B she would t be able to attend all the Unis she’s applied for either.

It may be more disappointing if she wasn’t prepared to it and didn’t have the time to plan for it.

This is a really good point. Results day would be awful for her if she didn't get the grades she expected. They think she's getting a B, so I'd be very mindful of not catastrophising what are really good expected grades.

elderlyparentshelp · 02/07/2025 08:27

I can understand her and your disappointment. I would speak to the teacher and go from there. However even if she is predicted an A, she needs a range of universities on her application so that if she doesn’t get an A in the end she has a back up university that she is happy to go to.

draggedtoakpopconcert · 02/07/2025 08:28

OP, it will almost certainly be fine, come September. There will be other tests and predicted grades will likely improve as a result. Unless she was thinking about early application for Oxbridge or medicine (in which case, she realistically needs more than one A star predicted anyway), she has until January. Many schools will run exams in Sept and also a November series.

MigGril · 02/07/2025 08:32

Why where they sitting mocks in February, it should be end of year 12.

Regardless off that it's always wise to be looking at university's with a veriaity of entry requirements. You never know how this will go on the day of final exams and having a backup option with lower grade requirements that your DC is happy with is always a good idea.

herbalteabag · 02/07/2025 08:34

Our sixth form will predict an A or A* if they think the student is capable of it, even if they have fallen short in the mocks. That's what they said at the parent's evening, anyway. My older child didn't receive the predicted grade he wanted for one subject and talked them into it, which is good as otherwise he wouldn't have ended up at the uni he did. It's worth discussing it further. But it does seem early to have decided? My Year 12 hasn't even done his mocks yet.

Sidebeforeself · 02/07/2025 08:38

LightCameraBitchSmile · 02/07/2025 07:59

But it can depend on that. It’s going to stop her from applying to the university course she wants. It IS a big deal.

OP talk to the teacher, they don’t want to stand in her way.

So her first choice doesn’t happen..she has about a billion different options

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PinkChaires · 02/07/2025 08:41

The 2nd set of predictions are in oct so all is not lost. Dd is begging to email her teacher but im not letting her. They have said not to so we will honour that. I think course of action should be to talk to tutor on first day back, then talk to head of hall. Potentially talk to new biology teacher on first day but maybe not

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