Uni offers and private school

[Mydogiscuter]

My DD attended a grammar school until sixth form when she was offered a significant academic and sports scholarship for a local private school, primarily because she plays sport at an elite level and also got all 7-9 grades at GCSE.

Our postcode falls in a deprived area and there is no way DD would have gone to the Private School without the scholarship. Will this be considered within her application?

Needmoresleep this is overly personal. One of my youngest DD's closest friends in college was from precisely the same school that your DC attended. They remain firm friends. Admittedly this young person is brilliant by any stretch of the imagination - top of the entire year in her subject and showered with glittering prizes as a result. DD's friendship group was made up of a very healthy spread of school types, which is as it should be.

Since your DD didn't apply for Oxbridge she'll never know if she 'might well have got in'. The difficulty for Medicine might have been her score at GCSE, certainly for Oxford. Cambridge might have been more accessible I guess.

Sorry but it was you who said your DD got irked by those from private schools who got into Oxbridge but needed extra time. It is very lovely that her friendship group is composed of the best and the brightest, but there are plenty that are good enough despite having SEND. The fact that they may not come from Grammar schools, - even the gruesome GoodbyeStranger had one child who was dyslexic and who, as a result was forced to go to Durham, but they may come from private schools where there is more acceptance of diversity.

"Since your DD didn't apply for Oxbridge she'll never know if she 'might well have got in'." She chose not to apply because in part because she decided a course with a lot of essay writing would not suit her. It is a pity that more potential students don't look at their strengths and weaknesses and pick courses based on their interests and priorities than give in to pressure from parents/ teachers. Given her GCSEs were sufficient to get her into a very competitive sixth form, and given her teachers there were surprised she did not apply, I think the statement "she might well have got in" is acceptable. Within their sixth form there was not a lot of difference between the would be medics. Who got in and who did not would not have been easy to predict.

'Forced to go to Durham' did make me LOL.

Hi Needmoresleep. No, not correct (again). What I said was that my DC collectively found the number of students from independents who had extra time on the litest of pretences was very cross making for those who played by the rules.

That is light years away from what your construction of what I said.

Yes indeed. Me too :)

I’m sorry your DD is facing unemployment, @Needmoresleep . I really do not understand the health economics in this country

Needmoresleep each year for many years the Pre Clinical Med School at Oxford has published statistics for their aptitude test and GCSEs that their interviewees and then offerees have. Your DD would have been an outlier for Oxford so had she been able to get an interview then she might or might not have impressed the tutors. But clearly for her the danger would have been that she wouldn't have got an interview offer. Tbh she'd have hated it if she is or was essay averse. It's a fairly pointless exercise the 'my DC would probably / possibly have got an Oxbridge offer'. If they want one - apply. If they don't - don't. But don't bang on about it afterwards - the ship's sailed.

Judging from other threads the DD hasn't applied for a training post poetryandwine. Again, if you don't apply....

There really has to be a bit of accountability. Those who don't apply for training posts shouldn't reasonably be included in unemployment stats.

Oh stop it. There was no danger of DD not getting an Oxford interview. She did not pay as she did not want to go. What is it with MN mums who seem to think Oxbridge is the be all and end all. Going to a school where at that time roughly 50% went to Oxbridge enabled the other 50% to realise decisions were based on fine margins. Always a number of surprises either way.

Only a certain type of person feels Oxbridge is best. How do you know someone went up Oxbridge ? They tell you in the first 5 minutes.

Fantastic outreach though and so much cheaper than other Unis so lots of my WP choose to go there.

Well another big LOL. There’s no of course about it I’m afraid Needmoresleep. If you check out the published stats and consider the grades your DD achieved (which you’ve repeated on here, in more than one of your many, many posts about your DD), then she’d have had to have scored off the scale on the BMAT to have been offered an interview at Oxford. Cambridge might have been a runner though. But so what? What does it matter? No-one else thinks it does, most importantly her. I’ve no intention of repeating your DD’s grades here because it would be a great intrusion to do so - are you sure she’s ok with you putting as much on these threads as you do?

My own DC would be livid.

Funnily enough mumsneedwine my youngest DD who’s currently in a very Oxbridge heavy first post, says the exact opposite - that you only know who went to Oxbridge because they’re the ones who never say where they went

She probably knows better than you, tbf. But she’s in the real world :)

Well you certainly tell everyone Auchie. We all know your 8 kids all went there and no where else would have been good enough for them 😊

I love living in the unreal world 😂

The irony. In an ‘Oxbridge heavy’ post but no one mentions they went to Oxbridge 🤪

mumsneedwine the bizarreness of the posts tonight knows no bounds. Maybe read what I say on my posts and don’t make other stuff up. I expect to be discredited by my own posts but not by fantastical
ones of other slightly singular posters. Of course if you can point to posts where I’ve disclosed personal details or expressed the very odd views that you’re trying to attribute, then please do. If you can’t do that - then maybe let normal posters get on with their conversation.

The context was central to the point being made. I’ve already mentioned that this DD was at Oxbridge earlier in the thread. We’re talking about what happens on the ground in real life. So no irony whatsoever.

But how does she know where everyone else went in her ‘Oxbridge heavy’ area if no one ever talks about it ? Do they get a badge ? Or maybe a special medal to identify themselves ?

This is an interesting article. About time sense prevailed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-68545303.amp

The other aspect to note, is that research shows the most important factor in predicting a child’s success and happiness in life - is having a stable supportive 2 parent family upbringing. I wonder if uni applications should ask questions about that, to define privilege. Where does it end. They have a tricky job.

I'd have thought the answer was rather obvious mumsneedwine. I really can't be bothered to keep on with the explanations - trying to cook supper.

😂 must be a special hair cut all Oxbridge have.

Definitely a good thing