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Continuation of Oxbridge 2025

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BananasAllofIt · 27/11/2024 18:17

I for one still have a kid waiting to hear about interviews. Thought I'd carry it over...

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Juja · 30/11/2024 13:43

@womanwithissues @buzzy1 I would second comments such as @Penguinsn and @InvestedButNotOverinvested

Two years ago my DC2 was handed on to another college, initially when she got her offer she was going to reject it and go to Trinity College Dublin as it wasn't her 'chosen' college - even though she'd never visited these colleges!! It is amazing how invested we can all get can get from websites, student forums etc...

Then DC went on the offer holders day and loved meeting the fellow students and very quickly switched loyalties. She also later discovered the tutors where she is are much more friendly and supportive than the ones at the college she was originally applied for.

I too 35 years ago was handed on from my chosen college to another college but actually was pleased as my first choice college were foul in the interview.

All the colleges are great, yes they have different vibes but you end up with friends all over the place including your subject and societies and there will be a diverse range of people in every college.

As to being offered a different subject combination that requires a bit more thinking as it depends what your DC really wants to study...

womanwithissues · 30/11/2024 13:44

All the reassurance about "finding your tribe" & enjoying college is wonderful thank you!
@Gingercatlover that is a tiny number of places! I'm pretty sure my DS will be very happy doing History as long as he can get some politics in there somewhere.

expandabandband · 30/11/2024 13:47

@womanwithissues One of the key messages we got on the open day at Oxford was that they, far more than Cambridge, shuffled people around between colleges and not to worry. One student said "In the end, everyone thinks that the college they ended up with is the best one in the University".

PhotoDad · 30/11/2024 13:49

A bit late to this, but Oxford shuffles people around before and after the interview process. It's all done internally. Cambridge has the (stressful) "winter pool" instead. I think that the Oxford system is more humane. In general, Cambridge colleges are a lot more independent (a mixed blessing).

marytuda · 30/11/2024 14:15

Think the best way to deal with the stress, esp the 'winter pool' situation should it come to that, quite likely in our case I'd say - is remind oneself/DC of attractive alternative offers - and that Oxbridge was always a long shot anyway.
Best of luck with interviews everyone.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 30/11/2024 14:17

Stockpot · 29/11/2024 08:44

@PhotoDad DD is still waiting to hear from Cambridge for engineering. Her ESAT was okay, not spectacular better than the mean, but still within on one std dev from the mean. So, it shouldn’t rule her in or out, I suppose.

She has terrible nerves before exams. It was the 11 plus all over again with vomiting outside the test centre on the pavement etc. We thought she was passed it, as she had sailed through GCSEs.

She had the opportunity to mention this in the additional paragraph that Cambridge gives you the opportunity to write, but she didn’t want to. So no special pleading. For all we know, she felt queasy and hadn’t slept much, but did it really make much difference? Who knows? In the end it’s part of who she is, and Cambridge might be a pressured environment, so perhaps best to let water find its own level and all that.

My son is in his 3rd year of engineering at Cambridge. You're right - it IS very pressured. It's a very difficult course indeed. And of course you'll be aware of the fact that the terms are very short so they are extremely intense. He basically works the equivalent of a full working day, has a break for evening meal then gets back to it for another couple of hours. He could do less but doesn't want to be floundering near the bottom of the year group. It's not something that would suit me, and it certainly wouldn't suit my youngest son who applied to different unis (and is now in first year, er, living his best life, shall we say, and worrying me sick 😫). But it seems to suit eldest DS down to the ground. He seems to enjoy the fact it's difficult, wierdo that he is.

It's trotted out all the time, "Oxbridge isn't for everyone." But it's so so true. And that's not a judgement on the people that don't go at all. The most important thing is ending up at a uni where the young person is happy and thriving and making the most of their talents. I do feel that DS is naturally very "Cambridge". He is very able, very confident and extremely determined and ambitious. He's always said he doesn't feel particularly nervous going into school exams, as he knows he's good 😆and he's always well-prepared and he's taken that attitude with him during his uni exams.

DS did really well at his ENGAA (I hear this is called something else now) and took the interviews he did in his stride (relatively), understanding that apart from academic ability, they're looking to see if you're teachable according to their teaching style and can pick new concepts up quickly and apply them to a problem yourself, even if you need a suggestion or 2 from them. I think they're probably well practised at recognising he natural talent in people, seeing past ordinary nerves, and recognising a level of nerves so bad that it might indicate a bit of a difficult time coping with the pressures if they did get in.

His girlfriend (on another course) is also very similar in personality, however she feels the pressure quite a bit more. They both feel that they would have had an easier ride elsewhere and been able to enjoy more free time than they do now. Don't get me wrong they still have fun, go to parties and the formals and balls etc. But really it's all about the work and keeping up with the workload. Which I guess is a big adjustment if you've always breezed through school. And it's hard if you come down with an illness.

Ultimately, you're exactly right, water will find its own level. I hope your daughter ends up where she is meant to be, whether that's Cambridge or elsewhere.

PhotoDad · 30/11/2024 14:21

@CurlyhairedAssassin Thank you for sharing that! My own dim-and-distant Oxbridge experience certainly involved harder work than any other part of my life. For info, ENGAA and NSAA have now merged into ESAT (and a few other STEM courses sit that, too, including some at Imperial).

buzzy1 · 30/11/2024 14:59

So helpful to hear everyone’s experiences and thanks Penguins and Juja. DS was thinking his social life would be limited if he ended up at Regents Park as it’s a tiny college.. so it’s reassuring to hear that the college isn’t the be all and end all, and may work out better than the first choice.

Penguinsn · 30/11/2024 15:17

*womanwithissues *I know DDs college has an ethnic minorities officer who is a student and they have weekly events with free food and there's always far more food than is needed. There's also weekly welfare meetings for all students who feel they need them with free doughnuts which DD says someone found out cost £3 each so a lot go every week, including DD, just for the free doughnuts. DD and I both found it to have very little bullying, certainly far less than our comprehensive schools. If there is an issue report it and they are pretty hot on dealing with it. I think male homosexuality is pretty common there. I found the different backgrounds beneficial, I had always been taught at school/home to pretty much put up with anything and one of the guys I did economics with had been to boarding school and told me not to put up with it and its been good advice. Quite a few of the students there are very into their special interests and the type more likely to be bullied at school. I think joining interests helps at the start, DDs course isn't too bad with workload so she gets to go rowing each morning at 6am for a few hours then study then its dinners / parties / bbqs etc in the evenings. It is quite intense in term time but only 9 weeks. I found Cambridge the least work I've ever had to do but think it depends on your course and personality and expectations on you. I was the first person to go from my school so there were zero expectations.

PhotoDad · 30/11/2024 15:42

Another voice saying that college isn't everything. The friends I'm still in contact with were from university-wide clubs/societies.

tortoise18 · 30/11/2024 16:03

PhotoDad · 30/11/2024 13:49

A bit late to this, but Oxford shuffles people around before and after the interview process. It's all done internally. Cambridge has the (stressful) "winter pool" instead. I think that the Oxford system is more humane. In general, Cambridge colleges are a lot more independent (a mixed blessing).

I'm not sure the "winter pool" is stressful. The first time you know anything about it after getting offered a place, no hanging around town (or online now, I suppose) for extra interviews.

PhotoDad · 30/11/2024 16:09

tortoise18 · 30/11/2024 16:03

I'm not sure the "winter pool" is stressful. The first time you know anything about it after getting offered a place, no hanging around town (or online now, I suppose) for extra interviews.

You're absolutely right! I was relying on "back in the day" when pooled applicants normally got re-interviewed. Now it seems that only 1% of pooled applicants go through that process. Much kinder.

marytuda · 30/11/2024 16:51

Oh well that's a relief @PhotoDad and @tortoise18 , assuming we get that far. I was thinking if you were even a possibility from the 'pool' it meant a 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th . . ) Interview.

chickenpieandchips · 30/11/2024 16:57

My son got rejected last night for E&M @ Oxford. He's now focussed on his other top choices, already had an offer and now waiting to hear from Bath....
Tbh I don't think it would have been right for him, but would have been very flattered to get in!

Penguinsn · 30/11/2024 17:08

Sorry to hear that chickenpie but glad he has another great offer and hope Bath offer soon. I think some universities do a lot of offers close to Jan deadline.

tortoise18 · 30/11/2024 17:08

marytuda · 30/11/2024 16:51

Oh well that's a relief @PhotoDad and @tortoise18 , assuming we get that far. I was thinking if you were even a possibility from the 'pool' it meant a 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th . . ) Interview.

Yes, pooled applicants simply get to know on Jan 30th along with all the other offers/rejections that a) they've been pooled; b) they've been picked up. There are, apparently, very rare exceptions who are interviewed again in early January. But about 20% of all places are gained through the pool, so don't fall in love with your original college too much!

Gina555 · 30/11/2024 17:29

chickenpieandchips · 30/11/2024 16:57

My son got rejected last night for E&M @ Oxford. He's now focussed on his other top choices, already had an offer and now waiting to hear from Bath....
Tbh I don't think it would have been right for him, but would have been very flattered to get in!

Sorry to hear that. Good luck with Bath, great Uni and a fab place to study.

BananasAllofIt · 30/11/2024 17:34

chickenpieandchips · 30/11/2024 16:57

My son got rejected last night for E&M @ Oxford. He's now focussed on his other top choices, already had an offer and now waiting to hear from Bath....
Tbh I don't think it would have been right for him, but would have been very flattered to get in!

You probably know this already @chickenpieandchips but Bath can be slow to respond. We were told after the January deadline is normal for most courses. I'm sure there are exceptions.

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chickenpieandchips · 30/11/2024 18:35

Thank you all! Yes know Bath is slow, but all other offers in! He came home yesterday and in one sentence saying he has been rejected but then onto which 1st choice he'll make if he gets Bath! He then went to the pub!

Gina555 · 30/11/2024 19:08

chickenpieandchips · 30/11/2024 18:35

Thank you all! Yes know Bath is slow, but all other offers in! He came home yesterday and in one sentence saying he has been rejected but then onto which 1st choice he'll make if he gets Bath! He then went to the pub!

I like his attitude 😀 and well done on getting all the other offers.

Gina555 · 30/11/2024 19:42

coffeerevelsrule · 29/11/2024 19:38

Ds has just texted from bowling to say he has an interview - email came through half an hour ago (shows how it's been on his mind, checking while out with friends!). I'm surprised emails are coming through out of office hours.

Congratulations to everyone else with interviews and commiserations for those without, though of course they will be amazing wherever they go and for everyone else there is the small matter of the interview to get through...

Despite what was said on the previous thread I do think it's a gruelling process and the dc are all amazing for putting themselves through it on top of A levels and whatever else they have going on.

Well done to your DS.

chickenpieandchips · 30/11/2024 20:18

@Gina555 thank you. I think he applied because we both went there so if they let us in they might let him in 😂. Congrats on the interview. My DH did maths. (Think that was your subject). Apparently he couldn't answer all his interview stuff because a post grad was still working out the answers!! But he discussed it as far as he could. Just keep talking and don't get stressed if you don't know, just keep discussing your ideas!
Meanwhile I had put some work experience on that my tutor turned out to be one of the world experts in the theory. That was awkward but I still got in.

Opheliaaffrighted · 01/12/2024 08:41

Perzival · 30/11/2024 10:56

@Opheliaaffrighted sorry to hear that. I'm sure your son will do amazingly well at a brilliant university.

Thank you, Perzival. He would have loved to go but he’s sanguine about it. It’s easier to be eliminated early on, rather than after interviews, when more effort has been expended and the weight of expectation has justifiably increased.

Of course I feel Oxford made a massive mistake, but of course they didn’t, they know exactly what they’re doing.

Opheliaaffrighted · 01/12/2024 08:47

Best of luck to all of those with interviews.

Gina555 · 01/12/2024 16:50

Opheliaaffrighted · 01/12/2024 08:47

Best of luck to all of those with interviews.

Thank you. My DS is still waiting to hear. I thought there would be a set date for each subject - so the students would know when to expect a response.

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