DD's girlfriend lying about her degree result

[WhitePolarBear]

DD (22) just graduated and is applying for jobs. Has been updating her LinkedIn profile etc. She worked so hard at uni and was delighted to get a First Class degree, which she has put on her education section.

DD's girlfriend 'Jen'* of 2 years (who we've met, had to stay etc and had become quite fond of...) has also set up her profile, but has listed her degree result as a 'First' when actually she got a (still very good) 2:1.
When DD casually mentioned it, Jen laughed it off and said 'everyone lies on their profiles and CVs' and claimed 'nobody will ever know'.

We're both sad and shocked I think. DD said to me it feels like a 'slap in the face' for those students who REALLY got a first class degree, and we feel sad that Jen thinks nothing of her lying and deception.

Nothing can/will be done, but just wondered what folk thought?

*not her real name!

There is nothing wrong with a 2:1 or 2:2

You’re actually sounding more and more like a neighbour of mine, op 😬
I hope you’re not her. I’d never try to piss on her chips, but she needs someone to shatter her giddy illusion that her dd is one of the magnificent elite.
She’s done brilliantly, but so have an unprecedented amount of others (including my own dd, which she knows 😬)
Doesn’t stop her crowing about hers every time I pass her in the street 😂

What are all these jobs that require original certificates of exams? I’ve never been asked to show mine, would have no idea where I’ve put them!

Dd1's exbf has on his CV a master's degree he never completed- well he failed and never went back to redo! He also got a 3rd at Cambridge and obviously on the little bio that goes with his job it doesn't elaborate about what class degree.

Having read through all of the OPs comments it seems that this really had nothing to do with DDs partner.
You have a chip on your shoulder about DD not being showered in praise enough for getting a first.
When your DD mentioned her partner describing her degree as a first, you saw it as a golden opportunity to continue to do so, but instead of looking like a lunatic overbearing parent, you could instead do it comfortably seated on a moral high horse.
If your DD falls for your ridiculous overblown stand point on this and starts to see a partner she was happy with as dishonest and it costs her her relationship, be prepared for the fallout, because sooner or later she'll see exactly how you lead her up the garden path.

Well @housethatbuiltme there is a story to this. Nor did I! So, you have to know which board you took the exam with … I know how tf do you work that out. I had to speak to several old school friends. It wasn’t easy at all!

I work in financial services and have always had to provide them for background checks.

Also had to provide it for my visa when I moved to Australia.

You sound like a higher education snob, was a ‘generic’ degree 🤣

A PP has listed them.

Generally anything that is regulated or to do with government tends to check your qualifications.

So I've worked for companies who don't care about my qualifications but their clients I am doing their projects for do care whether I am trustworthy or not, so I have cases where either or both the company and client check.

I also had one time where my qualifications were checked when the company was making people redundant. At that time that company wasn't the only one doing it. It was away to reduce head count by sacking someone rather than making them redundant.

What kind of employer do you work for? I've never been asked for my degree certificate, not once!

I am a recruiter for a University and we insist on candidates sending us scans or pictures of their degree's before we issue them with a contract. If a candidate lied about their result it would be a massive red flag.

Education. Every interview ever, first thing they do is request degree certificates. Perfectly normal in teaching, Wales, England.

How do you ensure the scan/picture isn't doctored?

Do you also double check with one of their referees?

🚩 I know two people who lie about qualifications on their cvs and both turned out to be untrustworthy in their relationships too. 🚩

Well as a result of this this thread I checked where my degree certificate was - surprisingly I found it easily, filed in an obvious place. It does not have the class on it 😁

I think the girlfriend is probably right, many people lie on their LinkedIn profile. It’s then about whether one can live up to those lies.

whether or not she is lying, it’s not for you to convince her otherwise. It’s not even about whether she will get caught.

my feeling as your daughter would be, whether her moral values and ethics Match with her girlfriend. Now that I’m in my 40’s with two kids of my own, I feel that this is just so important.

That is totally stupid what was she thinking wait she wasn't

In education I’ve had certificates photocopied even before interview

UPDATE UPDATE

So... it's gone!
According to DD, 'Jen' has removed references to 'her First' from her LinkedIn page - both from the title 'First Class Graduate...' and in the Education section.

Turns out her dad saw it as he was connected to her, and gave her a bit of a bollocking about it, telling her not to be so stupid.

What's worse though is that her former uni personal tutor/dissertation supervisor (who she'd invited to connect) also sent her a message with some 'friendly advice' saying while she knew it was tempting to inflate your results it really wasn't advisable and could result in problems down the line. Yikes.

DD says she thinks Jen is now back-peddling massively - saying she only ever did it as 'a joke' anyway.

By strange co-incidence, my DS has just accepted a tech job and asked me if I knew where his A level and uni certificates were, and could I look in his old home bedroom!!

DD says she thinks Jen is now back-peddling massively - saying she only ever did it as 'a joke' anyway.

This doesn't bode well for your DD. When someone can't apologize and admit fault is a massive red flag. And how is something like this funny? Does she really think she can bamboozle everyone?

At least Jen's dad has some sense so hopefully this is a lesson learned, but I'd tell your DD to be cautious.

@WhitePolarBear I've been having a tidy and discovered dd1's Gcse, A level and degree certificates including her Cambridge degree, complete with frame, down the side of dd3's bed (used to be dd1's). She's on maternity leave atm but am going to ask if she'd like them as she lives a couple of hundred miles away so not easy if she needs them in a rush!

Maybe Jen was merely telling the world that she was a first class graduate rather than she had a first class degree! Oh well alls well that ends well.

ewww. I’d be re thinking the relationship. What else will no one know about.

If she is going for a career job (not a casual job) she will be found out (especially this early in her career) …. Most job offers are subject to these sort of checks!

The OP has given an update. The person was told by one of their former university lecturers and their own father not to be so stupid.