University snobbery

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Just wondering if anyone has come across this from adults/parents?

That is all

International students who get in with much lower grades?!

That old chestnut 🙄

They do care about rankings though, certain markets are very ranking sensitive. And they're interested in overall ranking not subject ranking. Whereas my advice would always be to look at the subject ranking.

I'm surprised they haven't ghosted the one at Exeter

Well she's wrong. How embarrassing. They do a BA in education, various BA in modern languages off the top of my head

Thanks tridento I never checked it out when she said, she has form for being an idiot (snob) 😂

My DS is off to Jagiellonian University in Krakow. He wants to experience a different culture, learn a different language and study on an international course. The number of negative remarks we've had is unbelievable. It's a great University, a brilliant course and will cost a fraction of the price of a UK university which means he should hopefully leave university without any debt.

To help social mobility - aim high. It’s interesting that the Oxbridge topic is a constant on MN. I always notice on any thread, posters always say if they went there. They might be totally humble people, but it’s always dropped into a conversation. In real life too. People you have literally just met! No one else does this. This thread will prove me right. I guarantee it.

Are you polish citizens?

This is most definitely a thing, I can't believe anyone thinks it's isn't. Often keenly felt in cities where there is both a redbrick and a new ex-poly.

My daughter wants to do photography so naturally I want her to get into UAL Glasgow or Leeds Arts...but she's also looking at "new" university Ravensbourne which has excellent facilities but isn't as "known"...which makes me nervous...but is local...😬.

I think it's natural to have some bragging rights though 😂

No we're not Polish. He has applied as an international student. The course is taught in English.

It's because every man and his dog go to university now so people like to differentiate between the ex polys and the traditional universities. We have a number of graduates and I notice they like to stress that they went to the "University of" or Russell Group. You do need higher grades to get on the courses so I suppose they have a point. People are kidding themselves if they think the actual institution doesn't matter and it's just the subject being studied. Not saying it's right but it's the way it is.

Drop into the Arts threads in the HE board and you'll see all sorts of universities which are never mentioned anywhere else on MN! And the pecking/bragging order there (insofar as there is one) is also completely different.

I feel that some schools encourage this by perpetuating the myth that RG unis are intrinsically better. I haven't come across this in real life - only on MN and to some extent, the FB page - What I wished I knew about university. In the case of the latter (and to its credit), these views are usually challenged.

My DC school is pretty competitive with another school in the town.
One of their selling points of the 6th form is X % of students go on to do STEM subjects at Oxbridge and RG unis.
Then at the UCAS talk , totally played down RG unis, saying they weren't the be all and end all. 🙄

Think you could have picked a better second example there! Ds2's mate studied maths at Bath and needed A-starAA.

Not at Bath Spa, he didn’t. They don’t even offer maths

That sounds fantastic, what a wonderful opportunity. Many congratulations to him.
(And i think at least some of the negative remarks are just jealousy)

I'm not sure that "University of" signifies anything either does it?

I mean it's university of West of England which, while it is actually a great uni withca super sporting offer, is a former poly. UEA is also not perhaps a top tier uni? And Loughborough, usually highly ranked, is just Loughborough University. No of.

It really doesn’t.

Ah OK apologies I was muddling up Bath Spa the railway station with the main uni! Tbf it's late. You're quite correct :)

Agree. I think it matters more in cities. University of York, University of Edinburgh etc .You can see the confusion on this thread. People thinking Bath Spa is University of Bath.

Haha that was me! It's clearly past my bedtime

This.

Though I'm not sure just acknowledging or recognising that, makes anyone a snob.
Snobbery has to involve looking down on people.

its such a prestigious university and of course a beautiful city and country.

Only on MN. I know a fair number of people with children at Oxford/Cambridge then Russell group who are obviously proud but most definitely don’t lord it over ‘lesser’ unis. Very bad taste to openly do this. Everyone is different as are universities 🤷‍♀️