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MirandaWest · 11/01/2024 15:55

Thought I’d start this thread in case anyone else with a DC who didn’t get an offer from Oxford (or Cambridge in a couple of weeks time) wants to say anything - I feel a bit out of place in the Oxbridge thread now but could be good to have somewhere to talk about how they are and what their plans are now.

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catmomof3 · 26/01/2024 15:43

@Newgirls It depends on the college when they send their feedback but they should give a timeframe when sent an email asking for it.

I would only recommend applying for feedback if your child can handle disappointment when they see their scores. My DD was over being rejected after 48 hours and was just interested in where she went wrong. She said it's embarrassing for her to think she did really well in the interview only to find out the opposite but she isn't gonna lose sleep over it. If she was interviewed at a different college maybe things would have gone another way who knows. It is what it is.

Lightsabre · 26/01/2024 16:57

@catmomof3, sorry another question re; feedback please. Do they give you the interview score out of for eg, 10. Ds subject didn't have an entrance test.

Newgirls · 26/01/2024 16:58

I guess it might help my dd (or me) with closure. Or bring it up again…

I guess most of the feedback will be about performance at interview as surely all the other metrics got them to that point. Nothing to be embarrassed about for them - my dd was asked about a niche area of her subject that the tutor specialises in. Dd only knew a little about it so someone else would have shone in that situation. That might be what happened to your dd too

catmomof3 · 26/01/2024 17:01

Lightsabre · 26/01/2024 16:57

@catmomof3, sorry another question re; feedback please. Do they give you the interview score out of for eg, 10. Ds subject didn't have an entrance test.

Yeah they gave her 3 scores and then she got a table showing the average scores in general for each section. So she did really well in the ucas application and written work but fell short at the interview which gave her a lower overall score sadly.

Lightsabre · 26/01/2024 17:25

Thanks @catmomof3. Ds is still thinking about it - I think having the scores would bring closure especially if there was a wide gap from those who were offered.

WombatChocolate · 26/01/2024 18:07

For Oxford, our DS can get feedback on the admissions test (received automatically - big caveat at top of email to not read, if you don’t want to know) and can then find out the score for their submitted written work and interviews. I’m not sure if they will see an overall score which covers their full application and includes scoring for contextualised GCSEs or not. These played 50% role in deciding who was shortlisted for interview and I think about 20% role overall.

DS had wondered about getting feedback. His admissions test scores revealed he was well within the scores needed for interview, but wouldn’t have been a top performer. This was worked out by seeing the Faculty reports which detailed average admission test scores for those who applied, were interviewed and were offered. He already knows his interviews were not that good. So he basically knows he wasn’t a marginal candidate and just missed a place. He knows his interviews would have had to be super duper to pull him above those who had already done significantly better in the admissions tests. He decided he doesn’t need to know how low his interview scored. He’d be quite interested to know how they rated his submitted written work, but can live without knowing that and knows it was only worth 10% in the ranking processes anyway. He was never likely to want to re-apply and knowing already that he wasn’t marginal, doesn’t need that data in order to plan improvements for another go. Since the rejection, he got his Durham offer which will be his Firm and has pretty much moved on. The Cambridge offers made it a bit hard this week, but he has essentially moved on and knows the feedback would be more likely to make him feel a bit bad, rather than good and encouraged. So he’s leaving it and feels no need to know. I’ve said before that he feels he can hold his head high for having a go and getting to the point of shortlisting and knowing he didn’t scrape into the interview round, even if he wasn’t a top performer in admissions tests. Those things have boosted his self-belief and confidence and he feels no shame in being an Oxford reject, but pride in the fact he tried and got as far as he did. Seems pretty healthy as an attitude to me, but I know others need the info for closure and to understand if they did just miss the place and especially if they are considering reapplying.

For most, I’d say that if they have another great offer that they are genuinely happy with, moving on is easier and needing the feedback less if a thing. I know for some the Oxbridge dream has been going for years and years and everywhere else seems a major disappointment to them. I think it’s harder to move on from that and the feedback can be useful if indicating they caulked be a serious contender if they reapply…or taking on board that their application didn’t place them in the very top few and it’s now time to let go of the dream.

Best of luck to everyone making those choices and to parents helping their children navigate what is probably still quite raw disappointment for the Cambridge ‘no’ guys. Ultimately, waiting a few days before doing anything and applying for feedback is probably useful as even a few days can bring a new perspective to things and a knee-jerk reaction isn’t always the best thing.

lifeturnsonadime · 26/01/2024 22:29

@WombatChocolate my DS feels exactly the same as yours. He doesn't need to know about the interview score because he knows he would have had to have performed superbly to get an offer and knows that that didn't happen. Like your son he is satisfied that he scored highly enough in the test that he wasn't marginal for the interview.

I think you have given very good advice.

@catmomof3 your DD sounds awesome, she seems to take everything in her stride!

Mirrormeback · 28/01/2024 14:34

So it turns out that Oxbridge have given out more places this year than ever to international students

It could be due to Covid I guess and maybe places had to be deferred the last few years and that's snowballed as well on top of whatever

Mirrormeback · 28/01/2024 14:39

Also DS told me that anyone who has a place at Cambridge has to ignore any A Levels taken last year in Yr 12 mainly Maths and if they got an A star it will be ignored

And they have to get with the further 3 A Levels they take A star A star A

What it should be is because they already have an A star they should only need one more A star and an A to get their place

This might just be for maths degree though but that is what his friends have told him who got a place at Cambridge for Maths related degrees

mondaytosunday · 28/01/2024 18:55

@Mirrormeback you mean an A level taken early will be ignored? I'm not sure I'd trust a student - if anyone needs to know if this is true should contact the admissions department.

Mirrormeback · 28/01/2024 21:24

mondaytosunday · 28/01/2024 18:55

@Mirrormeback you mean an A level taken early will be ignored? I'm not sure I'd trust a student - if anyone needs to know if this is true should contact the admissions department.

He was told this by his friends who have been offered places at Cambridge to do a maths degree

Hopefully they're mistaken

user15913 · 28/01/2024 21:33

I think you have to show you can do three in one sitting - so yes I think they would need to sit three even if one is already 'bagged'. www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/find-out-more/faq

MirandaWest · 28/01/2024 22:55

Quite a lot of schools will have students doing maths in year 12 (and presumably have more time for it )then not start further maths until year 13 and sit that then. A lot of people sitting further maths will be doing 4 A Levels so would then do 3 A Levels in year 13.

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Mirrormeback · 29/01/2024 00:17

The other universities luckily are more than happy to accept Yr 12 maths A Level results as per the norm it's just Cambridge who aren't

PandaPacer · 29/01/2024 07:47

This thread has been great for sorting out my head after the redirection last week, thanks so much to those who started it.

My DS received an offer today from Imperial for Computing, he's pretty thrilled.

lifeturnsonadime · 29/01/2024 07:51

PandaPacer · 29/01/2024 07:47

This thread has been great for sorting out my head after the redirection last week, thanks so much to those who started it.

My DS received an offer today from Imperial for Computing, he's pretty thrilled.

That's great news @PandaPacer , amazing university! Well done to your DS.

Travelban · 29/01/2024 08:53

@PandaPacer congratulations to your ds! Mine is also a CS Imperial offer holder / Cambridge redirectee :) there seem to be a few on here, I wonder whether we should create an Imperial offer holder thread?

Jaxx · 29/01/2024 10:21

Brilliant news @PandaPacer 🤞for the remaining offers for all our lovely children.

There were 6 Cambridge offers for son’s school, so 8 Oxbridge in total. A couple of his good friends were offered, but unfortunately none of his immediate friendship group got places. Interestingly 6 offers were for new entrants to the sixth form and 2 of these had previously been at independent schools.

He continues to be unbothered - he even said he was relieved the other day - so it does look like a case of what was for him not going past him. DH and I are probably more sad, but it isn’t about us. He won’t be requesting feedback as there is nothing to be learnt from it apart from the possibility he performed poorly in the HAA as well as the interviews.

Still waiting for a Durham decision, but he is going there on an informal visit on the 9th February to see the town, disability advisor and Stevo his preferred college.

Lightsabre · 29/01/2024 12:26

This would be a great idea @Travelban. I daren't set one up as ds hasn't heard after interview yet but would definitely watch it.

Lightsabre · 29/01/2024 12:27

PandaPacer · 29/01/2024 07:47

This thread has been great for sorting out my head after the redirection last week, thanks so much to those who started it.

My DS received an offer today from Imperial for Computing, he's pretty thrilled.

Amazing achievement @PandaPacer , congratulations to him.

ladsmum · 29/01/2024 13:11

@PandaPacer - that’s brilliant.
Good idea about an Imperial thread - we are still waiting too but desperately hoping for good news, otherwise may be starting a “redirected from Imperial as well” thread. 😂

mynameisnotmichaelcaine · 31/01/2024 06:55

@ladsmum Still waiting here too. Luckily DS really liked Warwick, and he has an offer from there, so he has that as a fallback.

Newgirls · 31/01/2024 09:51

Morning all

is anyone still waiting for Oxford feedback?

Lightsabre · 31/01/2024 11:52

@Newgirls, yes ds decided to request it but only emailed a few days ago. The college has acknowledged the request but I haven't read it so I'm not sure of the timescales.

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