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A levels 2023 - Results day and beyond

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HereWeGo2023 · 17/08/2023 06:47

Hi all. I thought I’d make a new thread as the countdown one is filling up.
Results day is here and I’m sure we will all value each others support, today and for the next stage of their journeys.

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cobhamhall · 19/08/2023 07:04

DD needs to resit A'level Chemistry.I really don't know where to start.She was originally at a grammar but no resits allowed Hoping to re apply for Medicine next year.Where do I go from here .Worried about the cost etc!

DinkyDaisy · 19/08/2023 07:08

Surely the school can recommend a way forward here @cobhamhall...
I would hope they don't just wash their hands of recent leavers.

FarEast · 19/08/2023 07:14

@poetryandwine I too think a post-qualifications is preferable, and I also agree with you about the absolute necessity for preserving our research capacity.

I’ve worked two countries with different systems - never completely post-qualification though. I also have a pretty good view of the German system from family working in it there.

When I worked in the US I wasn’t very involved in Admissions (I taught thee for a couple of years alongside a Fellowship, so not really fully embedded). Neither was I when I worked in Australia, although I knew much more about how the system worked. It’s a far far less personalised system. You apply for a broad degree programme and you can apply anywhere. You find out whether you’ve met the overall number needed a day or so after you receive your final exams results (known as the HSC, the Higher School Certificate ).

But we never knew how many undergrads to expect in our first year courses (this was the Humanities). I can remember that one year we had 900 first years enrolled. I was teaching in the leading department for my discipline (in the Humanities)at the oldest university in its hey day.

The Australian system is also very different socially- most students I taught lived at home, many were supposedly full-time but actually worked for money almost full time. Once you got a place, if you needed to move away from home, you were on your own. There are few halls of residence in the UK sense.

A very different system.

I think @Katbum ’s point about the way that people who know very little about the system seem to want to tell us how it all works …

Dhokotera · 19/08/2023 08:01

Can your son not go and do Biomedical Science and then do medicine after? It is a common route now.

PacificState · 19/08/2023 08:02

@cobhamhall have a look at your local further education or sixth form colleges for A Level resits. My mother taught in one for years and every single year she'd have some DC from the local grammar who she was guiding through resits (and used to be very cross about their school washing their hands of them). Your DC might have to take another course or two to make up her timetable, or if it's a popular A Level they might offer it as a one-year evening course.

cobhamhall · 19/08/2023 08:12

Thank you.
Although she has said she would rather have a 1:1 tutor than go to a college.

LIZS · 19/08/2023 08:25

You can enter as a private candidate but if she needs to repeat any practicals or recover material tuition centre is better. There are private colleges which will do resits if that is an option. Do check which unis will accept resits though.

edamismadebackwards · 19/08/2023 08:29

Hi
Has anyone’s teen got their first choice confirmed by UCAS but not yet had an email from the actual university?
My DD needed a C in Biology, got a D but according to UCAS is into her chosen course.
I/we probably need to contact them, don’t we?

SlightlyJaded · 19/08/2023 08:46

STILL nothing on tracker. That's 48 hours now. I'm actually really cross.

Thanks for point towards Hull. We'll take a look....

SlightlyJaded · 19/08/2023 09:02

edamismadebackwards · 19/08/2023 08:29

Hi
Has anyone’s teen got their first choice confirmed by UCAS but not yet had an email from the actual university?
My DD needed a C in Biology, got a D but according to UCAS is into her chosen course.
I/we probably need to contact them, don’t we?

I think if UCAS have confirmed, your in. Lots of Uni offices very behind on admin. I'd give them a call but wouldn't worry - loads of people got their places with one dropped grade due to the boundaries this year. Congratulations :)

SlightlyJaded · 19/08/2023 09:02

*you're in

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 19/08/2023 09:21

@SlightlyJaded - I'm feeling your frustration here, I really hope you and your daughter succeed and her place iat MMU is confirmed. I have nothing to offer here as my student days are long gone (just realised did my A levels 49 years ago, when the system was very different!) and my own child did the IB and took a gap year so applied with results in hand rather than on predicted grades - except to say that my child is now an adult and has landed up living and working in Manchester, which she loves (except for the rain).
I am so sorry for all this stress, for you and the others who are still waiting.

Darkbutstarrynight · 19/08/2023 09:49

We're still waiting and it's doing my head it, let alone DS! Tiny sliver of hope whilst awaiting for the remark but at the same time he's convinced it won't be enough to up the grade, and get him back into his firm choice where he's desperate to go. They have acknowledged the review and insurance happy to wait for now....they say no deadline but think firm have given a week so at some point decisions will have to be made. He's going to be mortified if the grade is uplifted but too late for the firm choice to accept.

In the meantime, I can't shake the feeling that he'll end up with neither place for this year!

He's away on Tuesday so likely to have to sort it all put when he's away and chase for accommodation at either place. Then chase around when back to sort everything physically for wherever he goes.

Itisadifficulttime · 19/08/2023 09:51

@SlightlyJaded , hope everything works out. Fingers crossed.

@stilldumdedumming , sorry if I have missed your update. How are things so far for DS?

FancyFanny · 19/08/2023 10:02

I don't see why there have been so many students who were surprised by their results. Schools have known all along that this year's grade boundaries would be similar to 2019. Therefore, schools should have been basing their predictions, and mock exams on 2019 boundaries. DDs grades were as expected and in line with her predicted grades, as were most of her friends.

HereWeGo2023 · 19/08/2023 10:18

FancyFanny · 19/08/2023 10:02

I don't see why there have been so many students who were surprised by their results. Schools have known all along that this year's grade boundaries would be similar to 2019. Therefore, schools should have been basing their predictions, and mock exams on 2019 boundaries. DDs grades were as expected and in line with her predicted grades, as were most of her friends.

My DD got 2 subjects a grade lower than predicted. One of them a teacher scored against 2019 and she would have got the predicted grade. He also said that all of the coursework grades he awarded had 5 points knocked off across the board.
my DD is not going to go for a remark as she still met her firm offer and doesn’t want to risk it going down.
I think a lot of people are very surprised
good luck to everyone still stuck in the nightmare. It’s been a total shambles

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Thefatbutteredpig · 19/08/2023 10:18

Morning @SlightlyJaded , logged in to see if there was any update.

We looked at Aberystwyth last year. It’s stunning and has a real RG red brick look to it.

Human Geog is in their clearing CCC grades

My own DD didnt get her first but got her insurance at Norwich.

Their clearing is open today and they guarantee ( rather nice) accommodation too.

The UEA campus is lovely and very safe too.

i would highly recommend looking at both places

We live close to MMU / Man Uni and there was a real crisis last summer trying to find accommodation

Sending you hug and some 💐💐, hope all sorted soon

FarEast · 19/08/2023 10:20

@FancyFanny I think what we're seeing is the difference between the overall statistical or numerical situation and individual results.

That is, that more than 75% of applicants are confirmed in their first choice. This is, apparently, in line with previous years. But for the 25% the situation must feel very different!

I'm not a statistician - I'm sure there's a term for the mass v. Individual

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2023 10:22

So, I have an interesting one if anyone knows what's what.

Not my own DC:

In his wisdom had firm and insurance at same grades (AAA) - Bristol and Warwick (English degree)

Got ABC . Not been rejected by Bristol but not been accepted (still deciding according to Hub??)

Phoned Warwick wo said they would take him , pending Bristol's decision.

Why are Bristol doing this? And how long do they get to play silly buggers like this with students? I have my suspicions that they are hoping they will pick up some Oxbridge/Durham misses through clearing and can then reject their 'near miss' firms?

The student really wants Bristol , so I think isn't really keen to push them to release him.

Thefatbutteredpig · 19/08/2023 10:27

Thefatbutteredpig · 19/08/2023 10:18

Morning @SlightlyJaded , logged in to see if there was any update.

We looked at Aberystwyth last year. It’s stunning and has a real RG red brick look to it.

Human Geog is in their clearing CCC grades

My own DD didnt get her first but got her insurance at Norwich.

Their clearing is open today and they guarantee ( rather nice) accommodation too.

The UEA campus is lovely and very safe too.

i would highly recommend looking at both places

We live close to MMU / Man Uni and there was a real crisis last summer trying to find accommodation

Sending you hug and some 💐💐, hope all sorted soon

The uea degree does geog which covers human geog too. Uea are also v good over required grades if you contact them.

Our BSc Geography degree covers both physical and human geography, focusing on the interactions between the natural environment and human society. Situated in the School of Environmental Sciences, with modules available from the School of International Development and School of Biological Sciences, you’ll benefit from a range of fascinating optional modules allowing you to tailor your degree to your own interests and career aspirations.

Marisquita · 19/08/2023 10:32

@Piggywaspushed Bristol are vague about confirmation dates on their website, but (for example) Warwick say this:

If I do not meet the conditions of my offer, when will I find out if my place at Warwick has been confirmed?If your status on UCASLink opens in a new window has not yet updated, we may still be considering your application. We may not be able to make a decision on whether or not you have a place at Warwick until mid to late August 2023. This is because many of our applicants are only receiving their GCE A and AS Level results from 17 August 2023. We typically wait until all examination results are available before making decisions on those who have narrowly missed the conditions of their offer to ensure that all candidates can be considered together in a fair and equitable manner. We may also need to wait for other universities’ decisions on our Insurance offer holders before we know for sure if there are any places left on a course.
We aim to give all applicants for whom we have results a final decision on their place by 1 September 2023.

stilldumdedumming · 19/08/2023 10:33

@Itisadifficulttime yes. He got it confirmed yesterday. On his way back from Sussex which would have been a good second choice. But in his heart he wanted his firm.

@SlightlyJaded I work for a complaints watchdog and I would never normally recommend this but my ds rang around 8 times to sort this out. He rang back at different times of the day to get more helpful people. He also twice asked very nicely to speak to a supervisor along the lines of his seemed to be an odd situation and perhaps a supervisor might be able to help.

It is a tactic I would roll my eyes at work wise but that paid off for him.

Iwant2stayanon · 19/08/2023 10:34

@Netcam wow wow wow congratulations!!!

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2023 10:34

I know every school tells parents slightly different things , but just a wee reminder that UCAS predictions, target (or indicator ) grades, progress grades all get called 'predicted grades' at some point.

The UCAS prediction is always likely to be the highest of all of these. Soem schools share these as the only 'prediction', some don't share them at all (formally), some share mathematically calculated target grades based on national averages and prior data. It's not just about how a mock was marked and is all very confusing! Different subjects emphasise one off mocks differently too because of the nature of progress and assessment in subjects.

At my school, for example, we don't give grades for marked assessments. They are rank ordered and then a magic data guy does some bell curve stuff to it and assigns grades (which we can alter). This is generally far more accurate, although we can tinker. The UCAS grades are done using this info, but also factor in effort, aspiration, persistent pestering and so on. To give an example, I taught a diligent girl whose statistical indicator grade was an B, rank ordering suggested each time an A and I predicted her an A . She got an A star. Another student had a statistical target of an A star, rank ordering always put her on C but I changed that to B, knowing her ability to pull it out of the bag and her innate ability but considering her lack of application. Her UCAS grade I put as an A to encourage aspiration. She got a B in the end. Someone I predicted an E/D got a B, mind Shock. Always outliers!

SlightlyJaded · 19/08/2023 10:35

OK - we are going to look at Hull and UEA again today. DD doesn't want to go to Wales for a number of reasons but I'll see if I can get her to reconsider.

Just spoken to MMU again today and they said it can take up to a week for them to confirm on the Hub. A week??!!! She'll be living in sleeping bag in the McDonalds toilet if she has to wait a week. Ridiculous.

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