Which unis have not given degree classifications this year?

[SmartHome]

Due to strike action.

I know about Edinburgh and Cardiff. Any others?

I think it's utterly disgusting the way students at the above have been treated and want to make sure my children avoid applying to these institutions in the next few years.

LSE has been affected. DD graduates this week with 2 modules not marked. She has enough credits to graduate rather than receive a letter of completion, but will only have a provisional degree classification.

Cambridge University (DS1 had a fake graduation ceremony but hasn't had his degree marked at all) and Oxford University (DS2 has luckily had his degree marked and will graduate as normal but several of his friends have had to cancel graduations as degrees not marked - either some papers or all papers).

I would put money on it that all or most of the post-92s are awarding and marking.

DS was at Royal Holloway and got his full marks. I’ll join the First stealth boasting if I may! (He had a hard time around GCSEs and did them at home at the dining room table with an invigilator as was having daily migraines so we had a stressful few years back then.)

It's not university specific though, is it? It's related to strike action and has impacted across different subjects across different institutions across the country. I can't imagine using it to push my DC away from a future university. I'd rather they picked their university according to subject reputuation, research opportunities and job prospects.
I understand why DCs might be catastrophising about it but not why an adult OP, whose DC isn't even at university, is.

A couple of my son's flatmates at Lancaster have been told they're not graduating next week with everyone else. No idea what courses they were doing. A couple of my son's final year exams havn't been marked but it's not affected his degree classification and he's graduating next week. He's no idea if he will ever get marks and doesn't really care as he's got the classification he wanted/expected anyway. To be honest, he's just glad to be out of it as he had an awful Covid year at Lancaster which was like a zombie apocalypse for months with everything closed and no-one around. He says maybe half his modules have been affected by strike action over the past couple of years, but some flat mates have had no detriment at all, others literally had no lectures some weeks because all their module lecturers were on strike. Very fragmented as to which courses are affected and which aren't.

Dd has her end of year 1 grades from Warwick, but I don't know about higher years.

DD not had dissertation marked at Leeds Uni. Graduation is in 10 days with no idea whether it'll be marked by then or degree classification given

So a mixed picture. Disgusting nonetheless these poor kids, covid, increasing debt and then they get treated like all their hard work doenst matter. I will certainly be advising my kids to avoid one that are heavily impacted, hence my question. I have an 18y old starting this September and he may or may not need clearing so very relevant.

I don't really blame the striking lecturers, I'm sure they have legitimate concerns. The system is in trouble and I think we, as consumers, need to start putting pressure on university management and the government departments responsible, or nothing will ever improve.

Congrats to all the firsts from this year, and indeed everyone whose kids made it through lockdown and are now graduating. It's no easy ride these days. You should all be rightly proud of them.

Law at the Queen's University of Belfast hasn't given out final marks. Entry to the Bar is based on your position in the list of law graduates who also passed the Bar exam, so no idea how that is going to work with deciding who gets in for next year!

As others have said, I’d say it wasnt quite fair to single out Edinburgh and Cardiff – it’s happened lots of universities, including Oxford and Cambridge, Durham and St Andrews. Others I know of off the top of my head include Leeds, LSE and Birmingham and there are several more. But it’s only certain departments at each, so it’s very hit and miss. And just because it’s happened at certain universities, on certain courses this year doesn’t mean next year’s intake and subsequent ones won’t be affected entirely differently, so to choose a university on the basis of this year’s events is v unwise imvho. I hear what you’re saying about ““punishing“ the universities, OP, but I don’t think the lecturers will give a toss that your DC are avoiding them for this reason, so the message will not hit home. It is a disgraceful situation, just praying it works out for my DC who is in the first year of a degree, but who knows?

Cambridge have marked some subjects but not others. Like a pp DS had a 'graduation' ceremony last month without knowing the classification of his degree. For his subject it's likely to be Sept/Oct before he gets his results. Friends of his doing other subjects - Maths and Economics mainly - have already had their results.

Are you seriously suggesting that you would discourage your children from applying to (say) Cambridge for natural sciences, UCL for economics or Oxford for PPE? THE UCU is following their right to strike to maintain standards in higher education, to reduce uncertain zero hours contracts and restore credibility to the profession. Humanities have been badly affected in some prestigious universities, but perhaps if your DC wanted a career in academia you would be more supportive.

My DD will be graduating with a degree without a grade. Of course I would like her to know now what she has got as she starts to consider her next steps. However, a delay in receiving her final grade won't make a tangible difference.

@SmartHome Ds graduated from Glasgow recently without a certificate or degree classification. Where they could, they did but he is missing one paper which will determine classification. Absolutely no idea when he will know.

My dds friend at Leeds hasn't had any of her work marked - year 2. It's disgusting! Poor thing. My dd is still waiting on some grades. Of course it's not vital like final year but so unfair!

I made my feelings quite clear in that I am not criticising the striking academics. My brother is a union organiser so I am aware of the intricacies of strike action. I personally could not do it to young people though.

I do however hold the university management and the government dept responsible for this shit show and yes I would absolutely discourage my children from applying to major offenders. Luckily they are not the type of students that would only consider one university for a subject and are not in the upper echelons academically. I think that would be worse! Imagine putting in all the effort and work that I know it takes to get 3/4 A stars and into Oxbridge and the top table RGs for your subject and then be told that they weren't going to mark your work and recognise that continued top level effort. Just soul destroying.

DD is graduating without classification with a degree in PPE ftom Oxford. I'm from a family of academics. I'm receiving job applications from people leaving posts at some Lonron universities on an almost weekly basis who have had enough and wish to leave academia. It's a dilemma. Her temporary upset v my wider family's financial security.

OP but how do you classify major offenders when it makes be a different dept/uni next year?

Sadly DD is affected by the strikes at Edinburgh. Many protested at her graduation in terms of sashes, foot stamping, banners, letters odvprorest left on lectern, refusing doffing.

They clearly support the staff, but not with lack of talks/agreement with those higher up in uni and union. Vice Chancellor ducked out of being present at SPS graduations, a group that they acknowledged immediately beforehand graduation wouldn't be quiet. Rumour has ir Vice Chancellor was seen at airport within 24 hours, apparently going on holiday. Obviously entitled to have a break, but hasn't gone down well with students.

There are two aspects to this: one is the proportion of staff who are participating in the boycott - if it's just one or two in the department, they can probably still get things marked by the others (although some may refuse to cover). If it's the whole department, it's rather more difficult. Union membership is much higher in some subject areas than others.
The second aspect is how the university handles things in view of this, which is down to the management.

I'd beware compiling a list on anecdotal evidence; your list might easily miss some universities which are affected, and equally you may have others on your list where most subjects are unaffected.

QUB have apparently come to a local deal with their staff to get things moving again. As the chaos over exams has emerged, more universities have called for talks to resume - and that's resulted in them restarting talks this week, so maybe things will be resolved soon.

I gather that some graduate schemes are accepting people with offers pending the degree classification, and I expect many masters degrees will do something similar if proper results are not through in time. Some may be able to work off predicted grades - for instance if a student is only missing results for one or two modules, it may be clear that they will get at least a 2:1, unless they've outright failed the missing ones. It's probably going to be trickiest for those applying for things abroad, where they may be the only candidate affected.

Brighton Uni is affected - well, Social
Sciences & Hunanities departments. My son’s had an awful time at uni (autistic & ADHD) and it was nothing short of a miracle that he just about made it to the end, what with strikes, lockdown, online teaching & more strikes. Now he doesn’t know whether he’s even passed. I’m gutted for him.

It's worth remembering that the MAB is just one manifestation of industrial action. Strikes can impact teaching, and therefore the quality of the course.

The strikers may be trying to save the future of students as a whole, but this is to the detriment of those caught in the cross fire. If the industrial action is not solved soon, I would think very carefully about university choices for next year. There may be very limited teaching on some courses at some universities (though good luck working out which).

Unfortunately, there’s a whole year of kids going in the autumn who made their choices before this erupted.

We just have to hope for the best.

Exeter seems all to have been marked - DS has Year 2 marks and his friend has been given final year results (Law).

Durham given empty scrolls with and apology and advice that grades would follow apparently .
Similar for some of Cambridge I heard too?

Uni of Manchester say only 3% will have their grades delayed beyond the summer. An unspecified number will get a grade before graduation with partial marks and will either stay the same or have their grade uplifted.

My DS’s results were slightly delayed, just a week, but had all his results on Friday, in time for his graduation this Wednesday. (Happy with his 2:1! 😍)

I support the strike. It’s bloody inconvenient for many and unfortunate that this cohort have been so impacted by Covid and strike action, but the bigger picture is the poor treatment of many lecturers. The universities need to pay a decent wage and have decent contracts.