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Countdown to A level results day - 2023

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HereWeGo2023 · 14/06/2023 07:10

Following on from the A level support thread I thought I would create one for results day.
Hopefully you will all join me for the long nail biting wait and the big day at the end of it!

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yoyo1234 · 11/08/2023 19:55

3x A stars is so high for the Edinburgh insurance, that has to be CS. Certain seems most competitive courses at lots of unis....

FriendlyLaundryMonster · 11/08/2023 20:47

Ha ha, yes it is CS!

Tree543 · 11/08/2023 20:54

@ono40
Thanks. Thats good to know.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 12/08/2023 00:12

Dd needs A B B for Leeds. Has an A in Welsh bacc but they will accept that for one of the B grades not the A for some reason. So A and B needed on Thurs.

Her insurance had the same grade requirements so in theory she would miss both if she doesn't make her Firm. BUT her insurance place is on clearing for her chosen course, whereas her first choice does not, so is it worth ringing them if she narrowly misses her firm place?

NotDonna · 12/08/2023 12:57

@DrMadelineMaxwell i keep hearing differently. Some say call some say don’t. What I’ve determined (fingers crossed correctly but I’m not 100% sure) is that Admissions will have already considered missed grades. BUT they don’t know actual marks or how close a DC is to the next grade boundary. If a grade is missed by a tiny amount then it could be worth calling as they are likely to prefer a near miss who really wanted to come to the uni rather than someone scrabbling about looking for a place via clearing. I think! First time doing this but that’s what I’ve gleaned from MN and wiwikau.

NotDonna · 12/08/2023 13:00

So if DC know their marks and the grade boundaries and it’s very close, it seems it could be worth a call, if it’s miles away then best crack on with clearing and not waste time. @poetryandwine may be happy to confirm if I’m on the right track here, please? She helps with a lot of admission info.

poetryandwine · 12/08/2023 14:53

Hello, everyone.

I am no longer doing Admissions but I’m glad to give it a go, @NotDonna

If offers state that one has 31 Aug to meet the conditions of the offer, which is new to me as a formal policy, then using priority remarking strategically sounds a good idea.

In this case it is helpful to the Admissions Team if the applicant sends an email briefly outlining what remarking is being requested, with an estimated timeline. Emails from applicants are much more highly regarded than those from family members.

Because this is a courtesy, it can go to any Admissions Tutor or Administrator in the unit of admission (eg School of Physics). You might not have a name, but if you do please encourage your applicant to use the person’s title and surname. For academics this is almost certainly Dr or Professor. Admin staff identifying as women hopefully list a preference.

In this note the applicant may want to briefly state their continued enthusiasm for the degree programme and if they are close to a grade boundary they should state their current mark.

Email is better than a phone call. A phone call generates more work than email.

Include the applicant’s name as it appears on UCAS, the DOB and the UCAS ID in the email!

Then let the situation play out. If the cohort fills up with applicants making their offers there is nothing more to be done (unless the remark succeeds by 31 Aug) Otherwise, the near misses will be analysed. Some may be admitted even without remarking. (Some may be admitted even before pupils get their results). Having alerted the School to one’s status as a near miss with high interest, who may yet succeed on remarking, can’t hurt and might help.

However. I do read a lot on this Board from family members who say, essentially, ‘DC didn’t make the grade, so we pleaded and it worked!’ No, it didn’t. If the cohort wasn’t full, the Admissions Team assessed whether it was sensible to admit some near misses rather than go into Clearing (or before). The Tutors ranked the rejected and worked down. That’s how DC was admitted.

It’s true that at some point you have two spaces left for three equal students. At that point I would favour an applicant who has contacted us (appropriately) about non-mitigating circs around their exams and expressed a continued interest in coming to us. But others find this a turn off. So reaching out is a wash. If your applicant is not going for remarks, hence lacks that reason for contacting the Admissions Team, keep this in mind

Admissions tutors go to great lengths to be fair. Low key keeping communications open is helpful; pleading or attempting to throw one’s weight around is not.

PettsWoodParadise · 12/08/2023 16:06

Gardening. Cupboard clear out, charity shop run, potato peeling, shower plug hole cleaned. Avoided phone this afternoon until now…

Countdown to A level results day - 2023
DrMadelineMaxwell · 12/08/2023 17:08

Another article in the Guardian about how this years students will be hardest hit from not having sat formal Gcses but still being hit by the readjustment to grades.

How does it work in England?

In Wales AS are still a thing so dd knows how well she did last year, and they count for 40% of her final grade. Also, they were obv fully formal exams that she has experience of sitting. They also gave her the choice, which she took, to resit one exam for one maths unit to try and raise her grade when she got an overall grade of an A made up of a v high A in pure (A stars dont exist at AS) and a C in stats and mechanics . Apparently the best score from either year will go forward so it was no loss resitting it.
Do english students have the same info from any exams from y1?

KittyMcKitty · 12/08/2023 17:24

Aren’t Welsh exams exempt frim going back to 2019 levels this year.

English A levels are linear and all on the final exams unless it is something like Geography or English which has an NEA. For eg my dd did Biology Chemistry and Psychology with the final grade being determined by 3 exams in each subject with of course no opportunity to retake a module. If a student wants to retake they have to do the whole thing with the first opportunity being next summer.

KittyMcKitty · 12/08/2023 17:29

Oh and the science practical component was returned this year (which is a massive amount of work) and has to be passed as a requirement for certainly my ds’s offers (she isn’t applying for a science subject) although it doesn’t contribute towards the grade - this is the first time this has returned since 2019.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 12/08/2023 17:42

Thanks for that Kitty! I had missed info about the welsh grading system. Apparently they will still be graded generously, to be a move towards pre 2019 but not at 2019 levels.
The students were also informed if a topic wasnt going to be on the exams.

It's not great if it is not fair across the areas but one less thing for dd to worry about!

KittyMcKitty · 12/08/2023 17:47

English exams had no advanced warnings of topics - it was full on A levels 2019 stylee- it’s brutal and I question if it’s an appropriate way to assess young people - my dd wasn’t 18 until after her exams finished.

lastdayatschool · 12/08/2023 18:31

One of the other positives of doing AS levels in lower 6th is that most DC generally start off with 4 subjects and then drop one after AS results. Just slightly more flexible than having to commit to 3 subjects upfront for the whole 2 years

Greengeranium · 12/08/2023 19:23

Dd is in Wales too, AS is very good for taking the pressure slightly off the second year.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 12/08/2023 19:40

Welsh Bacc compulsory at dds sixth form, so they don't allow them to take 4 a levels then drop one, sadly. Which leaves people like my niece who struggled and needed to drop one with 2 A levels plus the bacc, which is accepted by a lot of unis as an a level in it's own right.

The project required as part of the bacc (called Skills at dd's college) is very good prep for writing assignments that need proper citations etc and something I wish I had been prepared for when I went to uni, however.

TripleDaisySummer · 13/08/2023 09:24

Welsh Bacc compulsory at dds sixth form, so they don't allow them to take 4 a levels then drop one, sadly

Sixth form at their school has this attitude which we did find odd as the local college lets them take 4 AS levels and welsh bac and most do - so DD1 dropped maths end of last year and continued with three and welsh bac.

I think DD1 who hated Welsh bac is glad she took it now as her course will accept it as one of the grades she needs. DS will be doing similar talking 4 AS levels - though more overlapping subjects -and welsh bac they insist on.

Not all universities or courses will take the welsh bacc as an A-level so I think it a risk dropping down to two A-levels but school didn't seem to see concerns.

Gardener13 · 13/08/2023 14:22

This feels like a stupid question - but where do I (or DC) find the courses/grade requirements for clearing for this year? When I go to eg Exeter website it says clearing opens on Thursday and can’t find any specifics on the UCS website. Can anyone enlighten me?

KittyMcKitty · 13/08/2023 14:32

Gardener13 · 13/08/2023 14:22

This feels like a stupid question - but where do I (or DC) find the courses/grade requirements for clearing for this year? When I go to eg Exeter website it says clearing opens on Thursday and can’t find any specifics on the UCS website. Can anyone enlighten me?

Many universities have removed their clearing vacancies for now - presumably to give them time to work through those who have firmed and insured them - and will release them either on 17th or just before when they know what they have in clearing.

tribpot · 13/08/2023 15:04

For anyone who hasn't spotted it yet, there's a great thread running here:

DrMadelineMaxwell · 13/08/2023 16:04

Very informative. Thanks.

Titsywoo · 13/08/2023 16:09

Have spent the last hour or so with dd writing down phone numbers for her insurance accommodation plus various private halls in the area. Also deciding on 5 options for plan c (clearing) and all their clearing hotline numbers. Still hopeful she will get her firm but she feels confident of what she needs to do if she misses out.

Travelban · 13/08/2023 16:28

It truly feels like a countdown now. Already getting messages from friends and family asking how results went, which is an irritating aspect I hadn't considered. We are going to have to ignore our phones on Thursday if we are going through clearing etc.

Or just answer 'fine' 😆

PettsWoodParadise · 13/08/2023 16:45

I have a lovely list of people who have supported DD one way or another to notify. I feel that is something I happily owe them.

The couple who paid for the history magazine for years, the different friends who had her round regularly while DH was undergoing cancer treatment two years ago, the neighbours who helped, the Nuncle (not an uncle but might as well be one) who bought books and vouchers, her sports coach, the ladies who do the tea at church and ask after her and give me the unwanted cakes, the friends who gave her a fountain pen which she has used ever since. Her childminder who became like a Nana. And definitely a lot more.

It takes a village to raise a child (especially as DD doesn’t have any living grandparents) and I will respond to that amazing village. But in due course, they know DH and I did our bit too and will need some time.