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Talk to other parents whose children are preparing for university on our Higher Education forum.

Unis that are catered

82 replies

Shinynewname14 · 23/04/2023 15:14

DS is a lazy bugger who cba to cook in his first year at uni - says he’ll struggle organising himself to keep up with the course, let alone cook and shop. So he wants to apply to unis where being catered is the norm for freshers, rather than the exception. He says Nottingham is like this but can’t think of any others. Can anyone help pls?

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CapaciousHag · 23/04/2023 23:23

@Shinynewname14 We had a teen starting university recently. Every single place they considered does offer a variety of catering options - and not because they looked for that.

And it was you who posited catered accommodation as the primary criterion. It was the whole basis of your OP. I’m struggling to see the many levels on which I’m wrong.

Shinynewname14 · 24/04/2023 01:04

@TizerorFizz this is great insight. Thank you. Bristol looks great other than all so spread out and DC could be spending huge amount of time on busses to get to lectures/sport etc.

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Shinynewname14 · 24/04/2023 01:12

CapaciousHag · 23/04/2023 23:23

@Shinynewname14 We had a teen starting university recently. Every single place they considered does offer a variety of catering options - and not because they looked for that.

And it was you who posited catered accommodation as the primary criterion. It was the whole basis of your OP. I’m struggling to see the many levels on which I’m wrong.

Ok. Reread your judgemental posts. Educate yourself before rushing to judge and upsetting ppl (me!). The fact is that - whatever your DC experience - most unis are now self-catered. Those still with catering have it as a minority choice - most rooms/halls at the uni are SC. Do feel free to engage when you have checked out or perhaps you will just continue with gratuitous and uninformed insults?

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Shinynewname14 · 24/04/2023 01:16

AutumnCrow · 24/04/2023 01:14

Newcastle's website still has Castle Leazes catered options being advertised. It has both catered and self-catered by the looks of it.

https://www.ncl.ac.uk/accommodation/university/castle-leazes/

Really? Amazing. dS swore blind that Newcastle has phased out catering from 2024 in Leazes (still on for 2023). Thanks

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Shinynewname14 · 24/04/2023 01:21

nope, that link out of date for 2024 entrants

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Phoebo · 24/04/2023 01:43

2bazookas · 23/04/2023 15:45

Your son is too bloody lazy to find which universities have halls of residence offering all meals. I'm not going to pander to the lazy git by providing the info. Neither should his mother.

With an attitude like that, the chances of him passing exams well enough to get in to any university are minimal.

This. Don't enable his lazy behaviour OP

AutumnCrow · 24/04/2023 01:52

Well to be fair to the DS, he already got ahead on Newcastle Leazes by the sound of it, so he must have done some looking.

NCTDN · 24/04/2023 07:15

Shinynewname14 · 24/04/2023 01:04

@TizerorFizz this is great insight. Thank you. Bristol looks great other than all so spread out and DC could be spending huge amount of time on busses to get to lectures/sport etc.

I worried about that with dd, but she doesn't spend half as long as I thought on buses. The halls at north village feel like a campus anyway. DD often walks down and gets the bus back.

bguthb90 · 24/04/2023 07:22

Wow @Phoebo - what a wonderful contribution you've made to this discussion. Must be great to be perfect

uggmum · 24/04/2023 07:32

York is catered. If you pick specific accommodation. I think Newcastle have some catered halls as well.

RampantIvy · 24/04/2023 07:33

Just Castle Leases @uggmum

RampantIvy · 24/04/2023 07:33

Leazes

FurAndFeathers · 24/04/2023 07:45

Shinynewname14 · 24/04/2023 01:12

Ok. Reread your judgemental posts. Educate yourself before rushing to judge and upsetting ppl (me!). The fact is that - whatever your DC experience - most unis are now self-catered. Those still with catering have it as a minority choice - most rooms/halls at the uni are SC. Do feel free to engage when you have checked out or perhaps you will just continue with gratuitous and uninformed insults?

@Shinynewname14 you are the one calling your son lazy, then getting upset when others do the same. And Tbf he sounds lazy. He’s getting his mum to research his university options on the basis of not wanting to cook for himself. That’s about as lazy as you get. Surely he’s doing some cooking now whilst studying?

does he have any life skills? You might be kinder in the long run to establish some expectations around him doing things for himself. People are commenting unfavourably because you seem to be infantilising him.

Imamumgetmeoutofhere · 24/04/2023 07:52

Cardiff met also has a catered halls option but only on one campus

ShandaLear · 24/04/2023 07:56

Why doesn’t he just live at home and go to the local uni, and then you can continue to cook all his meals for him?

RampantIvy · 24/04/2023 08:12

This has turned into a bit of a bunfight.

IMO cooking is a life skill that everyone should learn to do, whether it is at the first year at university or in subsequent years.

However @Shinynewname14 I would manage your son's expectations in case he doesn't get catered halls. As you can see it is far less usual to get catered these days. I don't know whether it is simply not a popular choice or whether it is cheaper for universities.

Unless he is Oxbridge material or has a disability or other needs he won't be able to stay in catered halls for the entirety of his degree, so perhaps sowing the seeds of learning to cook now would be a good idea.

bguthb90 · 24/04/2023 08:16

Got to love Mumsnet: 90% of people respond to the question asked/offer their own insights etc.;10% decide to dissect the question and then pile on the OP to criticise their parenting skills, their child etc.

Why do this small core of Mums (trolls) think this is normal behaviour ? Would you say it to the OP in a conversation (probably not, I'm guessing - you'd just gossip about it behind their backs)

redspottedmug · 24/04/2023 08:42

The simple fact that we are all on the higher ed board means we are probably invested and researching uni options - location, course, accommodation, nightlife etc etc- to some degree (pun intended).
So not sure why some posters have such a superiority complex.

TizerorFizz · 24/04/2023 08:58

@Shinynewname14
There is a lot of OTT rubbish on here.

My DD could cook! She chose not to. For her first year. It’s perfectly acceptable to do this. The idea that not cooking for one year leaves DC without life skills is pure rubbish! Of course they cook in subsequent years. In fact DD and friends hosted dinner parties. They cooked plenty of shared dishes in subsequent years too. I don’t recognise the notion that not cooking for a year makes you some sort of non person with no catering skills. If your DS wants catered, go for it.

Regarding Stoke Bishop halls (North) in Bristol, it’s like a separate home. I think it’s fairly close to sports areas though. The bus into lectures/library isn’t a long trip. (10 mins) DD liked it there as it wasn’t near the clubs and bars so was a bit like scjool in that respect! If DCs are out late, they share a taxi back. It’s a good transition between school and university. Put it this way, no one DD knew left for another hall.

wonkylegs · 24/04/2023 09:07

Newcastle I think still has catered in Castle Leazes but it's limited and I think it's only Monday to Friday as they all have a kitchenette even in catered rooms. I think the main risk is that you only find out what accommodation you get once you've accepted a place.

I also think it's a bit of a daft way to choose a uni but then I met kids at uni (who generally came from private school) who couldn't even make a cup of tea when they arrived so nothing surprises me.

I chose uni by course and then what the course & the place was like when I visited.
I found the teaching style in some unis for my course really wasn't what I was interested in so that was a big factor but I only knew that after visiting.

cantkeepawayforever · 24/04/2023 09:10

Having catering available is a safety net fir students who may, for reasons outside their own control, be or become less able to manage all the hassles of self catering as well as demanding courses.

DD - a very capable cook, highly organised, on a course renowned for it heavy workload - has developed chronic fatigue while at uni. Having an option for someone else to provide food, without her having to expend scarce energy reserves in walking to it, deciding on it, standing to cook it - let alone shopping for it - is one factor in her still being there.

WombatChocolate · 24/04/2023 10:17

All halls on main campus of Nottingham are catered. York has small number of catered halls, as does Exeter. Birmingham has ‘meal plan’ which suggests that even if you are catered, you might not eat at the same place regularly or where you live, losing that continuity of seeing the same people every meal time. Most of Durham colleges are catered and Oxford and Cambridge colleges too.

Catering is expensive. At Durham it is an additional £92 per week…but that is 3 meals per day, 7 days a week. That’s still expensive though and takes the price of many college accommodation to close to £10k. However, on the other side, catered halls often have shorter lets, so you will pay for less weeks.

Personally, I think you get the most typical experience by doing what most freshers do at that particular uni. In Durham, most are in catered colleges. At Nottingham, most freshers are in catered halls if studying on the main campus. They will still learn to cook if they can’t already, in the 2nd year. Not doing it for 1 year won’t impact their final culinary skills.

I’d also be interested in the actual set-up of catered and self catering. For self catering, is there social space, how many rooms per flat and is there scope for easy mixing of those in different flats. To be honest, the chance that the 6 people you share a flat with are ‘your’ people is pretty small. It seems there’s a bigger chance to find ‘your’ people in a dining room of 300, but only if you actually sit with a range of people and not just those in your corridor or flat.

What no-one wants is their teen sitting in their room with the door shut and being online most evenings and never seeeing anyone. Getting out and bumping into people in corridors or kitchens or on the way to the bathroom, or heading over the place where meals are served, especially in the early days where everyone is keen to actually meet lots of people, is what you want.

Being old and from the time when most uni accommodation was catered, I think I can see the benefits that delivered. Common meal times can be inconvenient (although I notice breakfast tends to be across a good couple of hours now and dinner the same) and mean you don’t choose exactly what to eat at every meal……but is that really a big problem? There will always be some choice and having some kind of structure for another year of when meals are and being ‘forced’ into a community-based timetable of meals, can deliver lots of benefits of structure to the day and opportunities to meet with people. Don’t we all think that eating and chatting other people is absolutely key a key thing in family life or social life generally?

Persoanlly I think this thing about ‘make everything exactly how you want it individually’ isn’t great for young adults. That sense of not being willing to try different foods or only being able to eat a very limited range of foods or needing to eat at exactly the time they want and having 100% flexibility, whilst presented as a benefit, probably helps make more people insular and struggle to form friendships. Uni isn’t the time for living in a flat on your own and eating alone and spending 48 hours alone at the weekend, with only the internet.

So, I think that sharing a bathroom is fine. They will do it the following year anyway. Most do it at home. Those who do share quickly realise it’s not a disaster. Part of growing up is going outside your comfort zone ….might mean sharing a toilet with someone else, eating a meal you don’t like, talking with people you would never have mixed with at school. Lots of teens are flexible and up for this stuff already. Others like what they know. Some might have additional needs, which mean sharing etc really isn’t suitable, but for many, it’s a good thing and they should be encouraged to be willing to try new things.

The final thing I’m thinking about, is not being totally flexible about the budget and setting it after accommodation is chosen, but giving a budget ahead of accommodation being chosen. I don’t want my DC to choose the accommodation regardless of price. I want them to look at the options and know they will have £11k or whatever, of minimum maintenance loan and our top-up, and to consider what they can ‘get’ with that money. So, if they choose en-suite and catered, they know how much there will be left for each week of the year. I’ve known friends with older kids who said their kids chose en-suite without looking at the let length in terms of week, or extra cost of en-suite, and realised they could have had an extra £40 per week to spend if they’d chosen slightly differently. Even for those with very high budgets, I think there’s real merit in them knowing the total budget upfront and making some choices with that in mind. I think it’s less helpful for parent to tell them to choose what they’d like,then set an amount per week they need for spending and just top up to that level. But everyone does it differently I know.

wonkylegs · 24/04/2023 10:27

@WombatChocolate makes a good point about timings
My course had very long days & awkward hours especially studio time and that was tricky for some of those who were in catered halls ( my best mate was catered but often ended up with a takeaway in the studio so was effectively paying twice)
May not be an issue on some courses but for others it could be a consideration