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Strangeways19 · 02/03/2022 19:45

so my dd has gone to uni last September she did a levels and a further college course to help prepare her. Is it normal though for tutors not to show up to tutorials regularly? or the students to be told that they can't access the equipment they were told on intake would be available to them? DD rang me last week in floods of tears because of the way that the technical support had told her to forget doing the work she wants to do until she's in year 3, she pointed out that this very person had told her that she only had to ask and they'd find a space and time to ensure she could make use of the resources (all of which are there for the students anyway!), this has been dragging on for a while now. I have only experienced her being upset like that a few times, meaning she was very upset.
She has been to the course leader who told her that she had to be 'more persistent' when trying to access equipment (this is despite the technical support blocking the access because according to them, she is at the bottom of the food chain, being a 1st year & all..!). I just think it is so unreasonable for her to have to hassle people so that she can access the equipment she came to uni to learn about and try. Surely they should be encouraging her?

I think understandably she is questioning why she is wasting her time at university, when the tutors aren't interested, and she can't access the things she needs in order to do the work she went there to do.
Is this slackness from a uni normal? We are at least half way through the first year and it seems to be getting worse rather than better, she has raised it now so we will see how things go, has anyone else experienced this slackness?!

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TizerorFizz · 12/03/2022 00:01

Art degrees don’t have much contact time do they? OT would have a lot more.

OnTheHillNotOverIt · 12/03/2022 04:17

Exactly that Tizer and we’ve been thinking about the difference between the idea of a degree and the day to day reality. I guess you might imagine an English degree and spending time in a tutorial discussing ideas when in fact most of the time you would be working on your own?

OT would have lots of teaching, theoretical stuff and applying the knowledge plus placements so very, very different to art. Writing that down, a gap year with some experience might help with the decision.

needingpeace · 12/03/2022 05:34

I work in a university.

It’s not ok that her tutor isn’t turning up.she chose her course based on lies! They shouldn’t have promised that and well done for getting involved. You are paying a lot of money and you absolutely should get involved. This needs resolving. I’m thinking she’s not in the right place or on the right course. A lot of tech support people in universities can be deliberately difficult or truculent. They don’t like their jobs and feel under paid and unappreciated and can be deliberately stubborn because they vent their frustrations on the students. I know because I’m dealing with one now. They run the labs/studios as their personal kingdoms. Escalate this to the head of department with student support copied in. If she’s being fobbed off it’s not ok. Of course she should have access to a kiln! Maybe she needs to have a look at switching to a different more proactive university? A specialist art university? What are the other places that are good for what she wants to do? If she’s had her own business success then maybe one that combines business success too?

MarchingFrogs · 12/03/2022 06:25

Maybe she needs to have a look at switching to a different more proactive university?

Um...

...for those who like a happy ending she's joining the 2nd year of a degree doing the specialised work she wants to study

Strangeways19 · 12/03/2022 08:08

@needingpeace thank you so much for your reassuring response, my thoughts exactly & thankfully DD has come to this very same decision. If she'd have had the access to what she needed I doubt she'd be changing but she's had a very positive response from another uni & is definitely moving next year.
I agree that the techs run the access like it's their stuff to give! DD had an email from one of them & it was so rude, & yes it comes over that the tech was being obstructive rather than helpful & encouraging.

@TizerorFizz I'm not sure whether art courses are much different in terms of tutor time - I did both art & a more hands on subject at uni & didn't notice much difference in terms of one to one meetings, obviously more in class time with more practical subjects & placements etc.
In DD's case it's different & the tutor isn't actually showing up to planned appointments & for group meetings. If they had been there would be no issue with the amount of tutor support - most students who have been through A levels and then college & in her case also managed her own business independently doesn't need someone to hold her hand. She just wanted them to honour their side of the deal.

Anyway it's just so good that she's found a way out of the depressing situation.

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