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Oxford Cambridge 2021 Thread 6

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Chocomel · 12/01/2021 10:25

Hopefully this is in the right place?

OP posts:
FlyingSquid · 12/01/2021 11:43

DD’s says it’s a conditional AAA offer, but she’s a ‘year 14’ candidate with results of A star A star A already, so yes, she’s in.

calculatorqueen · 12/01/2021 11:53

For those of us who have lurked on TSR, Dobbo is in!!!

Jalfrezi · 12/01/2021 11:56

It's a yes for DD (Ancient and Modern History) In tears as almost didn't dare to hope.
Huge congratulations to those who also have received offers and I'm so sorry to those who didn't. It is indeed the smallest of margins sometimes. In particular sending hugs to @bendmeoverbackwards DD who applied for the same course. Would have been so lovely to celebrate jointly and feel gutted for her 😢.

fabtasticmrpox · 12/01/2021 12:00

Congratulations to all the dc with offers and sorry to hear from those who have been redirected.

Dd has also been redirected - she had a little cry and is ok now I think. It was a long shot - not amazing gcse results I'm proud she got this far.

user1464114113 · 12/01/2021 12:03

Got offer for Mansfield!! Happy happy

FlyingSquid · 12/01/2021 12:03

@calculatorqueen

For those of us who have lurked on TSR, Dobbo is in!!!
Fantastic! He comes over as really nice, and certainly determined.
LoonvanBoon · 12/01/2021 12:04

Another delurker here. Odd situation with us: twins, both applied to Oxford, DT1 was very enthusiastic, DT2 less so. I suggested DT2 change his UCAS application back in October as he said he definitely didn't want to go, but for reasons I can't fathom he decided to go through with it.

You can guess what's happened. DT1 turned down for English, though was just in the highest ELAT band. Disappointed but being very gracious and putting on a brave face.

DT2 has got a History offer and has been in tears about it. I think he feels guilty that he doesn't really want it (doesn't know where he does want to go, though) and stressed about explaining his reasons. He's very mixed up about a lot of things, goes way beyond university decisions, and finds decisions very difficult.

So it's been a difficult morning emotionally and I don't mind admitting I wish it was the other way round.

Also, DT2's offer is not for a specific college but an open offer, which I've never heard of. Essentially they're telling him that he is guaranteed a place somewhere if he meets the grade requirements, but they won't confirm where until after exam results are out. This is new to me - anyone else know anything about it? He only had one interview at his chosen college; it wasn't an open application.

All academic if he turns it down anyway - he has some thinking to do - but having no idea which college you'll be going to doesn't make the decision making any easier.

Flyonawalk · 12/01/2021 12:07

@LoonvanBoon I think open offers are underwritten by a particular college. It seems that most open offer candidates do end up at the underwriting college. Does the offer include any mention of this?

Hoghgyni · 12/01/2021 12:22

Open offers - Dd's best friend had one last year and is safely installed at her original college. They give other colleges the chance to scoop you up on results day, so I suggest that you keep the list of college codes to hand when Track updates on results day. As everyone says, they will love whichever college they end up at.

par05 · 12/01/2021 12:24

I've been following this mornings thread with nervousness for your dcs this morning! Congratulations to those that got offers brillant news, and hugs for the ones that didn't but they have amazing offers to go to! Wherever they go will do brilliant, and have an amazing time.

Vargas · 12/01/2021 12:39

Huge congratulations to those with offers and huge commiserations to those without. Hopefully they can now move on emotionally and think about more tangible next steps.

The 25th seems so far away....

mutterphore · 12/01/2021 12:39

Congratulations to all those who have received offers so far today.

So so sorry to hear about the people today who have been redirected. I can remember that feeling of trying to be positive and objective in the face of misery with my DTs first time around when neither got an offer, post interviews.

LoonvanBoon, I especially identify with your post and how you might feel as I have DTs with one who really really wanted to get an offer and the other more nonchalant about it. 'Fortunately', both got rejected first time and I've no idea how it would have been to be in your position today, particularly as the one of your DTs who really wanted an offer hasn't got one. If that DT decides to reapply (and perhaps to Cambridge next time round?), it might be worth thinking about but of course entirely depends on your DT and their thoughts and feelings.

Second time round worked for both of mine and today I've been re-living - by proxy - the first and the second round. It really is an ordeal and I want to send everyone here my support - not just to your DCs but to all the parents too who are right there doing everything to help their young ones.

This has got to be the hardest year to go through this process and says a lot about each applicant in terms of courage and strength of character - thanks in no small part to parental support along the way too.

Crumpetstoday · 12/01/2021 12:41

@LoonvanBoon
Ds offer last year was an open offer for PPE. He ended up at a different college to the one he applied to or the one he was interviewed at. Interestingly probably a college he would never have applied to as it has a bit of a rep as more private schoolish than others he would have considered. Needless to say, he loves it now.
He was probably a candidate that would fit into any college so we wondered if that was a consideration in his being an open offer. His interviewing college underwrote the offer so if no other college wanted him they would have taken him, even if it meant going over numbers. From what I understand all the colleges participating in the open offer scheme have to agree that they would take a particular candidate if they have a space in august, so they have to be acceptable to everyone. I never heard of an open offer before hence a bit of Googling.

LaundryFairy · 12/01/2021 12:52

@SATSmadness

DD held off putting her 5th choice down (applying for medicine and 5th choice has to be something other than medicine) until after her dire interview with Cambridge which effectively shook her into thinking "what if I don't even get any offers for medicine ?". She spent a week researching other options and discussing with teachers at school before putting in a 5th option application.

Huge congratulations to those dc with offers and virtual hugs to those having come so far but now redirected. I've been lurking rather than posting on the thread for a while now as DD said she can't see how Cambridge could make her an offer based on her interview performance, even with her GCSE record and predicted A* x 3.

She doesn't seem to be obsessing about it though but I guess the run up to the 25th will still be tense regardless, especially as she has school friends also waiting to hear about their own and her outcomes.

Can I just ask to anyone who has posted that their DC "Is in" or "it's a yes". Does that mean they have an unconditional offer or just that they have an offer and definitely expect to receive the necessary grades required by the offer.

DS' offer is conditional - AAA
IrmaFayLear · 12/01/2021 12:58

Isn’t it just typical that when one is a bit ambivalent about something it falls into your lap?

I swear that every in interview where I’ve been a bit meh about the job, they’ve been begging me to join on bended knee... whereas when I’m keen I’m still holding out hope six months later! I guess being relaxed (not bothered) makes us perform better. Oh, the bitter irony. Now I come to think of it, it’s the same with dates... !!

houselikeashed · 12/01/2021 13:00

Will anyone by joining DS at St Hilda's? Grin

Pythonesque · 12/01/2021 13:00

Another redirected English applicant here. She hadn't thought she'd want to apply but is having second thoughts on that score.

A gap year - ideally spent in Australia - had long been on her wish list prior to the last 12 months. We're now pondering what would need to be possible to make a gap year make sense. As her grandmother is trying to sell up over there but has been stalled by events, it is conceivable that going out to help could make a difference - if she can actually get flights etc.

Time to let the dust settle and rethink later.

But looks like chocolate cake can definitely help.

bendmeoverbackwards · 12/01/2021 13:02

Thank you for your kind words @Jalfrezi and well done to your dd, great news. What college?

LaundryFairy · 12/01/2021 13:12

Congratulations to @sadpapercourtesan , @Jalfrezi , @user1464114113 and @houselikeashed 's DC - what great news.

Wishes for very happy redirections to @ChimneyPot , @fabtasticmrpox and @Pythonesque 's DC (hope that the Cake is working hard today).

And my heavens, a very big Wine for you @LoonvanBoon - hope your DT find the right paths for them.

bendmeoverbackwards · 12/01/2021 13:19

@LoonvanBoon gosh what a difficult situation, I can't begin to imagine the stress you must all be under. Where is DT1's second choice?

DahliaMacNamara · 12/01/2021 13:33

@DahliaMacNamara

Aaand she's in. Fuck me. Shit. Kind of overwhelmed right now. No idea which college.
Sheer maternal delirium. I meant of course that she'd had an offer. She already knew which college; it was me that wasn't sure.

On we all go, whatever news our DC had today. It's good to get one bit of uncertainty out of the way, even if we're exchanging it for another flavour .

chopc · 12/01/2021 13:43

Congratulations to all the DCs and parents with offers and commiserations for those redirected. Wish you all the very best, whatever decision you take - whether to reapply or go forward with the second option. Whatever decision taken, I am confident all futures will be bright

LoonvanBoon · 12/01/2021 14:09

Thank you all so much for the supportive words. Yes, Wine will definitely be in order later. DT2's offer is underwritten by his original college, yes - they will have him if nobody else wants him!

I did try to prepare DT1 for the possibility of DT2 getting an offer and him being redirected, and he was so good about it. He's been genuinely delighted to hear that one of their friends has got an offer, too.

Tbh though I thought it unlikely that it would be this way round. Both boys have virtually identical and excellent GCSE results and great predicted grades, but DT1 is way more passionate about his subject and more self-motivated. I thought he'd perform significantly better in interview as DT2 can be quite taciturn! Just goes to show - DT2 must have shown a different side to himself and/or done very well in the HAT.

I'm finding this really hard largely because of DT2's reaction to it all. A nonchalant shrug would be fine, or a bit of pleasure at having been given an offer, even if he intends to turn it down.

But there's so much angst and I can't unpick why. No one forced him to apply and no one's telling him he has to accept the offer. His brother has reassured him that he's fine about it (or is pretending to be!). I would be happier if he preferred one of his other choices and had positive reasons for it. But it all seems to be wound up with low confidence and some negative thoughts about Oxford.

The latter - that the work would be too hard or he wouldn't fit in - seem odd, as he knows I went to Oxford back in the dark ages, from a comprehensive school, and so can dispel these kind of myths. We've visited Oxford as a family - DH and I have friends there, though we live quite a long way away - and DT2 said a few minutes ago that he thought he might just want to go somewhere 'fresh and new': yet he wouldn't even consider Cambridge?!

It's difficult. His other choices include Durham (no offer yet) and Warwick (AAA, like Oxford). He has an unconditional offer from Newcastle which might be his insurance. He's never been to Durham or Warwick or done virtual open days, and hasn't seemed crazily enthusiastic about anywhere.

Yet he's dismissed any suggestions of years out, or considering other subjects. We only suggested the latter, back in the Summer, because he once said he wasn't passionate enough about History to read it at Oxford or Cambridge, when his teachers first suggested applying. We did point out that he'll need to be motivated and really quite interested to read History anywhere!

I don't really know how to help or advise him. Back in the day I just fell in love with Oxford at an Open day and didn't have any doubts. DT1 was the same, but I don't think he'll try again.

I feel that I'm spending all my emotional energy trying to support the son who did get an offer, while the one who didn't and who I think is quite gutted deep down, is just getting on with his work. It's topsy turvy!

LoonvanBoon · 12/01/2021 14:11

DT1 is waiting to hear from Durham, which might well be his 2nd choice. He's also keen on Leeds, where he has an AAA offer. He's being very positive but would definitely like to have the Durham offer now!

LoonvanBoon · 12/01/2021 14:22

mutterphore I honestly don't know how you coped with this stress twice! Lovely that they both got in second time around.

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