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Empty nest syndrome - it's real.

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monkeyonthetable · 28/08/2020 10:44

Is anyone else feeling an intense, overwhelming empty-nest dread?

I know it's stupid but am shocked by how powerful it is. I feel sick and anxious, like there's a fist clenching my chest. Both my DC are leaving home at the same time. Of course I want them to start their adult lives but some part of me just wants to hug them and never stop.

I'm fretting that ASD DS2 will be overwhelmed and lonely and that real uni life won't live up to his very precise, planned, high expectations. I'm worried that DS1 will burn the candle at both ends and collapse (he's done this before - actually fainted from hard work and lack of sleep when leading an expedition in L6.)

And concerned that DH and I will slide into evening TV and silence. We had plans to do some long haul travel as soon as they left, to push ourselves out of the empty nest too but that's been shelved due to Covid.

Has anyone had it and got over it? Is anyone else surprised by how powerful and unexpected it is? Would love to chat to people who feel the same or had it and are through it.

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whereshalligo · 09/09/2020 13:30

Gosh I'm reading these posts and am at the other end of the scale.
Ds has been home from his gap year cut short since March and it's been hard.
6 months living and working on his own overseas he reverted into a young teen. Been very lazy, untidy, going out coming in very late.
Dh and I are counting down the days until he goes and basically restarts his life.
For all those worrying it does get easier I did feel anxious and concerned about him being away and the end my control on his life. I worried if he was happy, but it was time for him to go out into adulthood and it got easier.

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monkeyonthetable · 09/09/2020 14:12

@Shoegal0305 - that's a great post. Glad to hear that something is shifting for you.

New and Gad - that's how I feel too. Same tidal waves of emotion.

Hamster - yes - all those things I meant to do with them. Which is stupid, because I have done a LOT with them, but some of the stuff I meant to do before they left home (lots of the practical stuff Hmm) I haven't got round to. They'll have to muddle through.

DH reminded me that they are very excited and that helped, to remember that. I mustn't rain on their parade by being nervous for them when I could be excited for them. They know I will miss them hugely but I want them also to know that I am really happy for them and proud of them and that has to be the focus when we say goodbye.

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BigSandyBalls2015 · 09/09/2020 14:53

Big hugs to you all, it's a very strange stage of our lives seeing our DCs go off and spread their wings. Often coinciding with menopause and other things going on.

DD goes into her second year accommodation next week. I know I'm going to find it so much harder this year than last. Last summer she went travelling for over a month, and was out a lot, so when we dropped her off at uni, although I was sad, I had got used to her not being there. This year is obv completely different, she's been here every day for six months. DH and our other DD have both continued working throughout Covid - I've been working from home and we've got a little routine going, she gets up for breakfast, I stop for lunch Grin. We sometimes go out for coffee/brunch. She's chatty and funny and I'll miss her terribly.

She is desperate to go though and I am pleased for her, she's made some lovely friends in her first year and she misses them all.

For those of you worrying about your DCs first year at uni, try not to. I know it's different this year but they are all in the same boat and they will make friends. DD is shy, lacked confidence, could be a bit socially awkward and I was concerned this time last year but it has been the absolute making of her.

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monkeyonthetable · 10/09/2020 17:15

Thank you @BigSandyBalls2015. It's lovely to hear that your DD thrived, despite social anxiety. That is exactly the sort of story I want to hear right now.

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Shoegal0305 · 10/09/2020 21:39

@monkeyonthetable all our anxieties are probably trebled in your case of your DCs are suffering themselves. They have you as their mum tho. I never had any parental support. They are lucky and loved in that respect. Please keep us up to date as to how they and you profess ThanksThanks

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Snozzlemaid · 11/09/2020 20:03

Stress levels rising here for me. Dropping dd off tomorrow.
She suffers from anxiety but luckily she felt it getting worse a couple of weeks ago so spoke to GP who prescribed propranolol. They've worked wonders as she completely loses her appetite when bad and will even vomit sometimes but these so far have eased those issues for her and she's had a good appetite, even today. Usually when faced with a big event she wouldn't eat for days before.
I'm going to miss her so much as we do so much together. It's going to take a lot to adjust to life without her here.

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Readandwalk · 11/09/2020 20:18

Let your children grow up and be adults. I'm tired of seeing cuckoo adults still sponging off their parents and being treated like infants. Enjoy the release from parental duty in the home.

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Peridot1 · 12/09/2020 11:33

@Readandwalk

Let your children grow up and be adults. I'm tired of seeing cuckoo adults still sponging off their parents and being treated like infants. Enjoy the release from parental duty in the home.

Seriously?

It’s an exciting time for our children as they leave home but it is bound to be sad for us as parents. We can be a bit sad and concerned for them and their well being while still preparing them to leave and being excited for them.
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Shoegal0305 · 12/09/2020 19:40

I can feel my anxiety returning. DS been away for a few days. He's home tomorrow so I just texted him and his train doesn't get in till 22.10. I said that's late to which he replied 'don't care'......... so I'm very much doubting he'll be in school Monday morning. If he wants to quit I'll support him as I've said but it's the not knowing????

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Snozzlemaid · 13/09/2020 12:31

I've come back to this thread to join you again now dd has gone. We dropped her off yesterday and it's the most painful thing I've ever had to do.
I cried all of the drive home. Just when I thought it was easing another wave came over me.
We had a lovely chat by text late last night and I was feeling much better about it, but I'm feeling sad and empty again today.
Dp is working so the house is quiet. I'm going to have to keep busy as every time I stop it hits me again. I haven't cried this much in ages.

I want her here again, mooching around in her dressing gown. But I don't because going to uni is such a fantastic opportunity for her and I know she'll do so well.

I know it'll get better with time but it doesn't half hurt today Sad

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Shoegal0305 · 13/09/2020 12:34

@Snozzlemaid sorry to read you are feeling so low. How far away has she gone?

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Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 13/09/2020 12:41

I'm so glad to see the support on this thread, I remember a similar thread last year/year before where the OP had some awful replies some really quite harsh. I'm a couple of years away from this but I expect I will feel the same loss so I hope when I post similar you are all still around for a handhold.
Keep your chin up OP and everyone else Flowers

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Silverstar2 · 13/09/2020 12:50

We dropped DD off yesterday, not too far away but I just feel so sad. Sad that she will never really live here again. Feels like everything is changing. Still have a 16 year old at home, but he misses her too as they are close, and now it is just him and us I think HE feels weird. I cried this morning at her empty room, and seeing the empty place at the table where we always ate. I mean I want her to go and be happy. It also feels like an anticlimax after months of planning and talking about this day. All feels flat. Exciting for her, not for us.

Didn't help that drop off restricted to an hour, which after parking, checking in and waiting to collect keys, meant we had about 40 minutes to unload and then had to leave. Couldn't move car as busy city centre location and nowhere else to park nearby, plus we weren't allowed back on site anyway due to others moving in and coronavirus.

But she went out with her flatmates last night, has also been shopping with them and seems happy, so I am focusing on that.

I know we will get used to it but it is hard. Sending hugs to you all.

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Snozzlemaid · 13/09/2020 12:57

[quote Shoegal0305]@Snozzlemaid sorry to read you are feeling so low. How far away has she gone?[/quote]
Thank you. She's really not far away and I'm expecting her to come home for a weekend occasionally if she's not too busy. So I am very grateful for that.
I'm not a crier at all but this has really hit me.
Let's all hope our young ones have a whale of a time and we all find a way of carrying on without them here all of the time.

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Shoegal0305 · 13/09/2020 13:00

I'm actually feeling anxious because my son is coming HOME! Because he won't talk to me and because his education is hanging by a thread I know I'll pick him up from the station and get the silent treatment plus I don't know whether he's coming home to co to use education or whether he's going off to work 2 hours away again Grin

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monkeyonthetable · 13/09/2020 13:36

@Snozzlemaid and @Silverstar2 - I feel for you. That'll be us on Tuesday. I'm dreading it. I've actually taken on an extra work project just to try and take my mind off it.

@Shoegal0305 - I understand that fear of him coming home. DC coming back tonight from time at a friend's house and I feel anxious. Not quite sure why but I keep thinking there are SO many things I should have taught them (more recipes for a start!) before they leave home and now, time's up. Is it possible to think of your DS's situation as win-win? Either he carries on at school - education win, or he goes back to that job - employment win. Either way he can do the other (finish education or get a job) later in life, when he's got this bit out of his system. If he thinks you won't have a go at him but will support him, he might open up a bit more, maybe?

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Shoegal0305 · 13/09/2020 13:43

@monkeyonthetable thank you for your message. I'm trying to think of it as exactly you suggest, I just think
It's the not knowing? School ring me to tell me he's not turned up, I know that, they've given him some breathing space as sadly his grandad died last week (dads dad) but they won't keep the door open forever. He needs to address these things for himself there's only so much I can do. If he came home tonight and said he's taking a year out if he relieved because I know. I'd support him to work as much as he likes, he can live with his mates and support himself basically. But it's not long term. His industry shuts down November till March. He wants to get on the university course and the only war is either finish his A levels or do a two year BTec course starting next year as he's missed this year. Again I'm happy but it's the not knowing and the fact he won't talk to me.

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Snozzlemaid · 13/09/2020 13:46

Thanks monkeyonthetable. I'm going to be working more hours from tomorrow too. Should help to keep me busy.

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Silverstar2 · 13/09/2020 14:02

I also think it's worse as we have spent so much more time together over the last few months. Before that she was at college or work, we barely saw her. The last few weeks she has been out a bit more saying goodbye to friends, but she only turned 18 a few weeks ago so we are used to having her around. Her course is also longer than most, 46 weeks a year so not much holiday.

God help me in two years time when DS goes!

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monkeyonthetable · 13/09/2020 14:41

@Silverstar2 - I agree. We suddenly had those months of being as close to them as when they were toddlers - at home all day every day. Then suddenly wham! - they go and into such an uncertain, socially isolated, Covid-restricted world. It's scary. I don't think parents who said goodbye under normal circumstances have quite the same experiences and anxieties as we have.

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monkeyonthetable · 13/09/2020 14:43

@Shoegal0305 - can you tell him that, in some way. That you support whatever he chooses to do, but he does need to decide and let you know. If he wants the job, he needs to chat with you about his plans for November-March. (Though it's possible he could pick up Christmas into January sales seasonal work if there's any to be had. If shops and restaurants get busy again - who knows if they will, this year.)

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Shoegal0305 · 13/09/2020 14:48

@monkeyonthetable yes I have told him. He's just not wanting to talk.

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Deadringer · 13/09/2020 14:50

I won't face this for a while because my youngest is 11, but my eldest has already moved out and is living abroad, i have 2 adults and a teen at home and i just cannot imagine not living as a family. I enjoy mealtimes, we still all eat together almost every night, and i can't imagine it just being me and dh. It doesn't help that our relationship isn't great but it's not just that, i am from a big family and just can't envision not being surrounded by people i love.

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monkeyonthetable · 13/09/2020 14:53

@Deadringer - maybe you won't be. A friend's youngest left home last year and the older two moved back in for various reasons! She was delighted at the time but now she's fed up of them and wants her DH to herself so they can have some fun together.

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Snozzlemaid · 13/09/2020 15:17

@Silverstar2

I also think it's worse as we have spent so much more time together over the last few months. Before that she was at college or work, we barely saw her. The last few weeks she has been out a bit more saying goodbye to friends, but she only turned 18 a few weeks ago so we are used to having her around. Her course is also longer than most, 46 weeks a year so not much holiday.

God help me in two years time when DS goes!

Definitely this. We've spent the last six months at home together for so much more than we usually would have. Which is so lovely in one way but makes the parting so much more painful.
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