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Medicine 2018 part 3

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SomersetS · 22/03/2018 15:47

Hope you all find this - didn't realise I took 999! Whoops.

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Needmoresleep · 28/04/2018 10:06

"whether the students I was referring to in my post who were extremely positive about UCL might be misogynistic boys"

I absolutely did not say that. I simply asked whether they were boys, because I suspect the experience of for girls and boys could be different. Unless you think all boys are misogynistic?!

One reason why DD did not apply to London medical schools, other than the one that is a short walk from us and which would have allowed her to live at home and to continue her pre-University social and sports life, was a concern that about possible partiarchal elements in the culture of some London medical schools.

This was based on her experience of a London open day where she thought she was the only one to attend unaccompanied, with some others bringing large family groups. She felt the whole talk seemed aimed at parents, with an emphasis on "we are more academic than Oxbridge" etc, and no mention of sport, social life or the wider University life. As if it were assumed that parents would be making the decision of what and where their DC would study. Only fathers, not even mothers, asked questions and there seemed no effort to communicate with prospective students. DD was clear that there was no chance on earth that she would apply there, even though, with her profile, she stood quite a good chance. (She did apply to Birmingham, which looks for a similar academic profile.) She knew a few girls who stayed in London because they were discouraged from applying anywhere where they would have to live away from home. This perception was backed up by a couple of things she heard from non-medic NHS staff about the medical student cohort in a couple of other London teaching hospitals, and indeed an incident where a medical student sat in during a hospital appointement she had, but struggled to make eye contact with her or me. (Admittedly to the seeming embarrassment of the doctor present.)

DD does not face any problems where she is, and indeed girls are probably in a majority. But she says it appears far tougher for friends who are visibly Muslim, who apparently struggle with being accepted as independent and equal by some of their male classmates, both Muslim or non Muslim.

Ranm · 28/04/2018 11:00

Goodbyestranger my son has now firmed Birmingham, rejecting UCL. The lack of the campus environment at UCL was his basis of choice. Hopefully it will work out for him.

goodbyestranger · 28/04/2018 11:01

Ok Needmoresleep I'm not going to scroll back but my recollection is that you said you and/ or your DD had found the UCL boys misogynistic, pushing the girls out of demos or something like that, and asked if all the students I referred to were boys (with the implication that girls might not be as comfortable at UCL as the boys). Anyhow, it's a long cry from that to Ranm's misunderstanding that I said boys were happier at UCL than Birmingham, so best to clear it up.

Er no, I don't think all boys are misogynists!

goodbyestranger · 28/04/2018 11:05

Good to hear that Ranm, especially as it's good to get that decision out of the way and good that he's super keen on the one he chose. Hope he has a fab few years :)

Needmoresleep · 28/04/2018 11:13

I absolutely did not say that, not least because it would not have been true. I just suggested that boys and girls might have a different experience at some London medical schools, and asked whether the people your DS knew were male or female.

I dont know why medic threads become so agressive. PP asked for a view, and I thought it might be worth contributing the reason why DD applied to Birmingham rather than look more closely at London options. DD may be wrong and your DS' friends completely spot on, but its for PP to decide. Which she/her DS has.

goodbyestranger · 28/04/2018 11:25

There was nothing aggressive whatsoever Needmoresleep, I simply didn't want Ranm to misconstrue our brief exchange as boys having a less good time at Birmingham, especially since she'd just said her DS was decidely keener on Birmingham.

goodbyestranger · 28/04/2018 11:30

Your post was Thursday 19th at 16.10. I did scroll back just to check I wasn't getting it wrong, but it all seems to have turned out well so not important. I haven't heard of misogyny at London schools but perhaps it does exist, I wouldn't know.

Abra1de · 28/04/2018 11:35

Ranm, 🙂

Abra1de · 28/04/2018 11:41

Re inoculations for hepatitis: my daughter couldn’t get our generally helpful GP practice to do this, for the purpose of working in the NHS, but they did when the v. sensible practice nurse decided they could justify it for travel, even though she was only going to the well-known disease centres of Slovenia, Hungary and Spain. 🤔

adrinkofwater · 28/04/2018 12:37

Good that your DCs have decided now watfordmummy and Ranm. I know there was a definite sense of relief at the decision being made in our house this week!

2B1Gmum · 28/04/2018 18:45

Good news Ranm & watfordmummy - nearly there....

Abra1de my experience has been the practice nurses are very knowledgeable and helpful. Because of deferred entry nothing has come our way yet for DD to fill in - although it would be good to get it covered in plenty of time.

mumsneedwine · 28/04/2018 19:12

Has Nottingham sent anything out ? DD not mentioned anything

Katisha · 28/04/2018 20:08

DS hasn't had anything from Nottingham yet

LadyWithLapdog · 28/04/2018 20:24

Immunisations for medical schools are indeed "non-NHS" work, they are occupational health, which is why most GPs will refuse checking status etc. It should be organised by the medical school or hospital though it sounds, unfortunately, that some pass on this responsibility to the students.

goodbyestranger · 28/04/2018 20:46

DS1 was told what to get by the medical school and went to the GPs and got it without any money having to be paid or problems. Not sure what he had to have, just that there were no problems and no cost. He hasn't been ill or passed anything onto patients during his training either so presumably what he had was sufficient. On the other hand he had all the jabs available as he grew up, so no lack of MMR or boosters etc.

specialted · 28/04/2018 21:21

Nottingham sending occ health stuff out beginning of June

specialted · 28/04/2018 22:24

Have pm'd you mumsneedwine

mumsneedwine · 29/04/2018 04:08

Thank you

swingofthings · 29/04/2018 09:09

Glad to read that everyone is firming their choices. Is there still anyone pondering? It's really hard to decide as so many factors affect that choice.

Re. immunisation, Manchester asks if they've already received Hep B but do not ask for it to be done at this stage. Isn't Hep B a three stage vaccin? (It was in my time many donkey years ago!!)

Needmoresleep · 29/04/2018 09:52

I hope that people firming will open up places for those who are still waiting. Its tough, but there is every chance that a few more offers will be made in May. It can be worth rerading the tail end of last years Student Room threads to get reassurance that it can happen.

SomersetS · 29/04/2018 14:20

All this talk of jabs - I must ask DD if Leicester have sent their requirements.
She had all school shots including MMR & Men ACWY last year.
World Challenge to Africa 2 years ago necessitated course Hep B (& final booster) rabies, Tetanus, Typhoid etc. Will check the online surgery list but we might be clear I think.

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mumsneedwine · 29/04/2018 17:04

2 kids at my school have just been given offers for Bristol having previously being rejected ! Think they left it so late lots had taken other offers elsewhere. So hang on in there

SomersetS · 29/04/2018 22:31

Wow that's good to know Mumsneedwine. How lovely for them, particularly if they had no other offers.

Just goes to show it really isn't over until after results day.

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adrinkofwater · 01/05/2018 18:16

@biscuit2000 and anyone else! Did your DC's have a confirmation email of some kind from the uni that they firmed? DD hasn't had anything from Cardiff since she firmed last week, but has had an email fro Leicester (her insurance) thanking her for having them as her insurance, and saying what she needs to do. It is weird not to have heard from Cardiff?

specialted · 03/05/2018 08:03

A drink I think DD had an email from the uni she firmed, then had info about offer holders day etc on their uni portal. At open day they said they'd send out Occ health stuff etc in june, presume after everyone has firmed so maybe Cardiff do the same?

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