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Medicine 2018 part 2

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LoniceraJaponica · 12/01/2018 20:39

New thread here

OP posts:
2B1Gmum · 15/03/2018 13:48

Herods I realised that, I was just doing the maths from admissions point of view, if every applicant only got one offer after interview they would not offer nearly 80% more places than they actually had available, logic says that some will be because applicants don't meet their grades but at least 60% will be those that turn down Birmingham for another offer. My DD chose wisely with help and got invited to 4 interviews - she has a good p.s., good gsces and top third UKCAT, but not all A* or top 20% UKCAT, I am sure there was an element of luck too! We thought HYMS was her iffy choice and she has an offer...

Thinking of my nephew going ahead, his school are very geared up and start the advice before GSCEs, the have a high success rate for medicine and are rather pleased with themselves (perhaps a little too pleased tbh[sceptical]). So he thinks he knows it all and will not ask me or DD for any input, but my sister will Smile.
Moving do you think Liverpool will be in touch before Easter weekend? Were offer days mentioned? IF DD did get an offer I feel I have done enough visits to Liverpool....

Needmoresleep · 15/03/2018 14:02

Birmingham is a safe choice for those who meet their GCSE requirements and they have a lot of places. DD had it as one of her 4 for that reason, and got an offer. But decided to go elsewhere, partly because first impressions of Birmingham were not great, and partly because of the intercalation options. (And no post interview tour nor offer day...) Her bright and personable second cousin had four interviews but only one offer, but has enjoyed her time there to the extent of wanting to stay in the area for FY1. I suspect again it was a bit of a fall-back.

Although it is A*AA we know someone a couple of years back who missed grades but still got a place.

proudwhatever · 15/03/2018 14:31

Would concur with advice around Birmingham straights As at GCSES required my DC was rejected preinterview with a score of 7.9 good PS but not te sure if Birmingham want experience in residential healthcare to meet PS criteria, either way lack of transparency has left a lot of applicants v miffed, peers with offers have 11 As might be different if you have contextual data
My DC sitting on offers from BSMS and Lancaster no news from UEA but feels UKCAT might be an issues and interview mixed experience !Thank goodness for the BMAT....can’t wait to firm and move on mocks all mucked about due to the snow. Well done to all DCs with offers!

Movingmountains · 15/03/2018 17:10

Mumsneedwine - that's an interesting comment from your DD re Liverpool as DS and I only saying last night how we wondered whether lots don't choose Liverpool as they are offering so late. Liverpool was his favourite but he is now wavering in favour of Sheffield

specialted · 15/03/2018 17:47

Birmingham interview scores a bit of an eye opener! Not sure it's necessarily very helpful to know where you were ranked overall. Was surprised DD did ok in role play (her absolute nightmare in an interview) but did appallingly in insight into medicine and probity and resilience! I don't think she would have asked for it, it just got sent to everyone. Could be a bit of a confidence knock if you knew you were at the cut off point for offers. Ignorance is bliss as far as I'm concerned.

mumsneedwine · 15/03/2018 20:16

Movingmountains mine currently wavering between Notts and Sheffield. Can't decide ! Soton interview not had a lot of thought so could be interesting 😂. Both very similar courses and nice cities so not sure how she's going to choose. But oh how lucky she is to have a decision to make. Liverpool do seem to shoot themselves in foot a bit by being so late as lots of kids just want it done now.

alreadytaken · 15/03/2018 22:16

Sorry just popping in - but I think I can cast light on Birmingham. It's a popular choice for those expecting high grades and wanting an early offer - hence they get a lot of rejections form the Oxbridge crowd.

|good luck to anyone still waiting. It's not over until results day.

adrinkofwater · 17/03/2018 11:26

Total change of subject - but does anyone know if you can find out average student rents for various uni's for once they have moved out of halls?

Movingmountains · 17/03/2018 17:04

That would be useful info drinkofwater. On our way back from very successful offer day at Sheffield despite extreme weather! The lovely Julian was on top form. DS now in love with Sheffield - thinks he will firm it. We were all really impressed. Everyone so friendly.

mumsneedwine · 17/03/2018 17:38

Wish we could've gone today Movingmountains. DD camping in the snow. Was it really fab ? I have loved their friendliness and organisation but DD so scared of making 'the wrong choice' and finding it hard. Although once last interview done on Monday I'm hoping she can decide.
What was so fab about Sheffield (besides the lovely Julian )?

SomersetS · 17/03/2018 18:44

Will report tomorrow as hard to type on road but on way back from fab offer day at Leicester. I loved it for my DD. Will suit her well. Super friendly too. Fairly sure it will be tops.
Snow too!

Movingmountains · 17/03/2018 19:06

Mumsneedwine everything! It was so well organised. The students who did demonstrations (things like first aid, injections and anatomy) were so positive. I also loved the structure of the course - basically I wanted to do it, let alone DS! I felt everything was geared into making them successful doctors. There is an emphasis on teaching communication skills so they get lots of interaction with patients from the start. They have loads of community support so have a scheme with the local community for patients to speak to their students. One girl we spoke to said she had so much more patient contact in her first year compared to her friends in other medical schools. They can also choose to intercalate in anything and anywhere at the end of year 4 or in biomedical science at end of year 3. DS loved the evening we had in Sheffield - the bars were lively and apparently they are famous for being best city in UK for beer (that sold it for him!). If you can't make the offer days , there is webinar you can do which is the same talk by Julian which we had.

mumsneedwine · 17/03/2018 19:40

Thanks so much !! I'll show DD once she's thawed out. She was sad to kiss today but as it's snowing (again) not sure we'd have gone. Not after the 7.5 hr trip last time.
Really appreciate the info. Maybe our kids will be friends in Sept 😁

mumsneedwine · 17/03/2018 19:41

Mmmmm not kiss. Typing while freezing waiting for a child 🤪

MedSchoolRat · 17/03/2018 19:53

(Gosh this thread is so much nicer than the other Medicine thread, phew)

May I ask you guys what prep your DC did for the UKCAT test? Was it just a booklet & free online quizzes, or something more? Thx In Advance.

SomersetS · 17/03/2018 20:19

MedSchoolRat which other thread?

My DD did the Medic Portal UKCAT course. She found it useful just to give her the confidence really. Useful but not invaluable she'd say. Use their website & free Q banks though in addition to the 1000Q books.

We did it end June & then sat exam 4 weeks later which was about right. Meant she could relax then for the summer.

MedSchoolRat · 17/03/2018 20:48

Thread that becomes acrimonious, tetchy & confusing (I don't know why).

DD did very well in secondary school CAT exams. CATs seem to have a lot of the same categories as UKCAT - does it matter? I'm feeling very grumpy if we really 'need' to pay £££ to help DD do well in UKCAT, but am trying to be reasonable.

DD will attend expensive 6th form & if they insist paying £££ is essential to do well at UKCAT I may well burst a blood vessel.

adrinkofwater · 17/03/2018 23:09

Just had a look at the other thread, but I think I'll stick with this oneSmile

DD used free questions on I think the medic portal website and then we paid for medify for 4 weeks. She also had the 1000 questions book, but didn't really use it. She thinks medify helped the most. She didn't do any courses and did well, although I think we all agree that there is definitely luck involved in the questions that come upon the day!

ProfessorLayton1 · 18/03/2018 07:01

Agreed, much nicer here!
Thanks for the medic portal suggestion, will check it out.
Dd is finding Chemistry a big jump and haven't done well in the tests so far. How did your DC find Chemistry. This is the first time she has struggled with anything academically- she says she would be ok and just needs to change the way she revises, she understands the subject but did not do any past papers so her marks went down.
As far as I am concerned, you understand the subject, learn it - that should be ok but can't understand why doing past papers would help in getting marksConfused

swingofthings · 18/03/2018 07:50

Indeed, much nicer here and don't know why I'm posting on the other, maybe because I have felt an amazing sense of support here on this thread and I get defensive when someone attacks that support by accusing us of being over-invested emotionally unnecessarily because getting in medicine is not that hard at all!

MedSchoolRat, DD also signed up to the Medic Portal about 6 weeks before her exam. I think it costs about £30 and I do feel it was worth the investment mainly because it gives the option to do mock tests within the same timing as the exam. Being able to answer the questions is obviously key, but just as much is being able to do so within the timescales which are very tight. It is not just a test of mental intelligence but also strategy.

Reading the threads on tsr is very useful as a number of posters will give advice on these strategies. It was then a case of practice and practice. DD didn't like preparing for it, she got bored of doing the same questions over and over, so it really tested her discipline.

ProfessorLayton, DD also found Chemistry difficult last year until about February and then it's as if everything clicked in. She was getting only Bs to start with, but then suddenly got top marks and got an A* at the end of year exam. Past papers is indeed key to success and therefore having a teacher who demands that they do so! It was a big learning curve for DD to accept that A levels, even much more so than GCSEs is about learning exam techniques in additional to learning the subject, a bit like learning to drive (which she was doing at the same time, maybe it helped?). She found this to be even more the case for Biology. DD found doing past papers very tedious and boring at first, but had to accept that there was no getting away from it. It is a bit like preparing for the UKCAT, very repetitive but allowing to get the brain geared up to think the way it needs to for purpose of the task.

Abra1de · 18/03/2018 07:53

My daughter also had problems with chemistry in Y13 last year. She actually did find doing the last papers helped, almost like practising an instrument. Eventually something just clicked in her head, as though connections were finally made.

She then did very well in A level and got her place

As a 🐅 mum I was useless here as chemistry is emphatically not my thing. But we did buy extra revision books. There are also some subscriber websites as well, depending on exam board, I seem to remember.

mumsneedwine · 18/03/2018 08:17

Have found the other thread a bit sad as people being mean. This thread has been amazingly supportive and hopefully will help next years mums.

Another vote for Medic Portal for UKCAT. And the 1000 question book, which got a lot of reading on train journeys to open days. My DD hated it, was bombing all the on line tests, and then on the day pulled it out of the bag.

Chemistry A level is tough and a lot of students find it doesn't all click until about now in Year 13. I teach it so see scared kids every year, who have never struggled before. The questions require an application of knowledge which can be quite tricky. Past papers with the mark schemes are a great help - mark schemes are your friend ! I also mark and I have to stick to the mark scheme so learn what's been on it in previous years for each topic. I hate saying this as it's not how it should be but you can write a beautiful answer but if the required words aren't in it I can't give it a mark.

SomersetS · 18/03/2018 08:21

Gosh just read the other thread. Think I will pass. None of that seemed "practically" helpful which is what I think we have & continue to be.

MedSchoolRat - £££ sixth forms with high percentage of Medic often buy in Medic Portal. My DD goes to a state school with few applicants & so we bought her place on a course held at a very fancy (& brilliant) local private school. They were paying for their students & sold extra places to us! So ask your school - they may already be organising or might, if you ask? It was just one full day.

TSR students all seem to rate Medify.

I agree, put in hours trawling the appropriate TSR threads. It pays off.
You need to build a spreadsheet of knowledge on each Uni & then seek what you can here, TSR, Medic Portal & each Uni site. We may be able to help filling in gaps. Then you can shortlist what best suits your DC depending on grades & PS. UKCAT &/or BMAT scores will be the decider. We didn't do BMAT but strategic applications resulted in 4 interviews & so far 3 offers.
Volunteering seems to be key in PS. Not so much sport, unless you teach or coach. Mentoring, Music & Care Home worked well for us as well as teaching Kids LifeSaving skills. Start now so plenty to say by September in the PS.

Presently snowed in again. V glad made it back from Leicester last night. Update on Leicester once I get up & organise my thoughts.

SomersetS · 18/03/2018 08:22

Oh & ProfessorLayton, think Chemistry is the tough one for all. DD struggles Yr 12 but thinks it all started to click at beginning Yr13. Just persevere.

Movingmountains · 18/03/2018 08:22

Also agree about other thread 😱
ProfessorLayton - we used the 1000 question book and then did Medify for the final 4 weeks - my DS said this was well worth money (think it was about £40). He did one of the official Pearson papers at start then did rest at end and went from getting 2400 to his final result of over 2950. He found it so difficult at the start and got very stressed so the preparation must have worked. There are also lots of good tips on medic portal and also TSR.