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"Coercive and controlling behaviour is clever. You would have thought a police officer could see it coming, right?"

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JuliaMumsnet · 06/01/2022 14:40

Sharon Baker is a police officer and long-time Mumsnet user. She writes here about her experience of domestic abuse as a police officer and how she finally broke away. We estimate that around 6,000 women in the past three years have been helped out of abusive relationships through Mumsnet by our brilliant users. For many women, just being supported to understand that what is happening is not right and is not their fault is the first step.

“Somehow, because of what we do as a job, others see us as stronger and invincible to the same threats they face. Nothing could be further from the truth. My body armour and rank in the police force did nothing to protect me from being a victim of controlling and coercive behaviour at home. Somewhere I was supposed to be safe and loved. I was used to dealing with confrontation at work, running towards danger and helping. I was resilient to being sworn at and people trying to physically intimidate me. As a sergeant, I had to have those difficult supervisory conversations – none of it phased me. But the very things that gave others the impression I was strong actually kept me locked in silence longer.

Coercive and controlling behaviour is clever. It slowly takes away your confidence and your ability to trust your own thoughts and feelings until you’re left confused and unable to make simple decisions. You would have thought a police officer could see that coming, right? Except abusers are masters of manipulation and control. By the time I realised, it was too late. I looked around, I was trapped and I was isolated from family and friends. Here I was leading a team of police officers and, in the eyes of those around me, I was strong. The very fact that I was supposed to be keeping everyone else safe meant I felt too ashamed to admit I was terrified of going home.

I vividly remember scrolling through the Mumsnet forums one day and clicking on a thread about emotional abuse. It was the first time I read the term ‘red flag.’ I read posts from Mumsnetters describing behaviour and seeking advice. I literally stopped in my tracks. I couldn’t believe it. They were describing my life. I spent many, many more months reading posts, just lurking, wincing when the resounding ‘LTB’ would ring out. I kept burying my thoughts and justifying his behaviour. Being a police officer made it harder. Work was my refuge, somewhere where I could make decisions and have some control. No one had ever talked about being a victim at work. That just made me feel weak. I thought ‘it must just be me’ and it strengthened my feelings of shame. How could I keep my team and the public safe if I couldn’t do that for myself? "So I stayed silent."

The turning point came when the words became more. When I came home and the words ‘it’s over’ came tumbling out of my mouth, I hadn’t planned it, but as soon as I uttered them I felt a huge relief. Naively I expected it would be easy, but I don’t think it could have been any worse. That evening I hid in the spare room and Mumsnet provided me with a haven which I turned to for help when I had nowhere else to go in real life. Posters kept me company as the terror escalated. I did all I could to placate him, keep him calm, using all my skills as an officer but to no avail. I don’t remember calling 999 or what I said. I only remember the sense of fear I had.

While I waited for them, I saw him calm down, change and brush his teeth to hide the smell of alcohol. He only had to say one thing to me - ‘they won’t believe you.’ Scared and confused, I didn’t tell the officers what had really happened. I kept my secret for years. I lived my real life out anonymously, seeking advice and support from discussions. It gave me wonderful strength to know I was not alone.

Last year, that all changed. Now a Chief Inspector, I visited a member of my staff who had been assaulted by her partner. I was shocked at how she blamed herself, and her view that somehow domestic abuse could only happen to those who are weak. I took a deep breath and told her what had happened to me. We both cried. It was an important moment.

She was left shocked that someone who in her eyes was so strong could also be a victim. It gave her strength and it began to wash away the thick layers of shame we both felt. We were not alone.”

Sharon will be coming back onto the thread to answer your questions.

Experiencing domestic abuse and coercive control has nothing to do with how strong you are and it is never your fault. If you’re wondering whether you’re in an abusive relationship, complete this survey from Women’s Aid. You can reach Refuge’s domestic violence helpline on 0808 2000 247 24 hours a day, or you can chat to someone online. And here is more information about how to cover your tracks online.

You can find the Mumsnet Domestic violence Webguide here and our Violence Against Women campaign page here. There are many campaigns you can join to prevent domestic abuse (you can find some here) and many refuges and organisations you can volunteer at to help survivors of domestic violence. Flowers

"Coercive and controlling behaviour is clever. You would have thought a police officer could see it coming, right?"
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GremlinDolphin4 · 06/01/2022 19:20

Great story. I am also in a position where I am perceived as “strong” but it makes no difference!

MN was literally a life saver for me, people supported me all the way - I lurked, I posted occasionally and all the advice built up in me until I was finally ready to say “no more”.

The police were wonderful from the person I initially spoke to when I called them right through to the support I got in the courts and it was a very drawn out process!

I’m still sad sometimes about what could have been but me and the dcs are soooo much happier now. Love to all. Xxx

Ijsbear · 06/01/2022 19:21

Thank you so much for this post.

Also @sweetbellyhigh that post of yours must have taken some courage.

coodawoodashooda · 06/01/2022 19:30

Your post has meant the world to me.

MachineBee · 06/01/2022 19:38

Thank you for sharing your story and exploding the myth that strong people can’t be caught like this. My ExH was a police offer and he convinced me of my worthlessness for years. I felt such relief when I finally called time on our marriage. And then finally found peace when he died a few years later. The legacy of that marriage has taken a long time to leave me, but it finally has and life is very good. It was hard, but absolutely worth it.

Startoftheyear2022 · 06/01/2022 20:17

Thanks for posting your personal story. Very inspiring.

PoloPrincess · 06/01/2022 20:22

@Theunamedcat

He was right they won't believe you they truly believe my ex husband has the right to know who is in my house who is parked outside my house (public highway) and where I am with "his" children (who he doesn't bother with) apparently I should just tell him it's been 7 years since we split he has been engaged he has refused to sign divorce papers for five years (again perfectly reasonable behaviour for an engaged man) he blamed me and despite me showing them I had filed for divorce they said his story was more plausible and I should just "move on" (I had done nothing but complain about him harassing me)

They don't get it

You're absolutely right about this. I had the Detective Sergeant of the Police's Domestic Abuse team tell me to my face that unless I was black and blue there was nothing that he and his team could do to help me. But to get to speak to a DA police officer was impossible. I ended up writing to my MP who wasn't really interested but his secretary took sympathy with me and arranged for the MP to mention me in his monthly meeting with the Chief Inspector. Only then did I get a meeting with a DS. This whole process took 18 months and I got nowhere. I begged them to help me. I was utterly devasted when they washed their hands of me before they'd even listened. This was 4 years ago. I've lost faith in the police because of how they treated me.

It was through reading a post on Mumsnet in 2016 that I realised that me and my son were being abused. Psychologically, emotionally and financially.

Thankfully I am doing OK now but still have to deal with him on a daily basis because he still sees my son regularly. But I'm stronger now than I was then and I can deal with him much better but I'm left with c-ptsd.

Thank you Mumsnet, without you I would still be with him. I followed the advice that members posted and I've got to that light at the end of the tunnel.

mummabubs · 06/01/2022 20:27

Thank you for sharing your story. I was also in an abusive relationship 10+ years ago. I was training as a mental health professional at the time and can remember feeling such a sense of shame that I should have seen it coming, been able to leave so much sooner than I did and also that because of the field I worked in I should have possessed all the skills to not feel utterly traumatised by it all. With time I've learned to show compassion towards myself around it all but your story of how it can feel to believe that your profession should always guide you in your personal life really resonated with me. More people need to share these experiences to reiterate the message that it's not victims' fault, at all. Wishing you all the best x

nalabae · 06/01/2022 20:33

I just came out of a 3yr relationship which was abusive conceive control and financial abuse. It made me have an alcohol problem.
Prior to him I was a gym girl drinking green juice everyday and had over 60k in savings now I have nothing.

It takes one person to ruin your life. Just one cleaver abuser.

DulockIs · 06/01/2022 20:33

@HiltonSq
Flowers
Hope you're in a happier place now.

So glad to have come across this post.
Really brave, so much respect!

ArabellaScott · 06/01/2022 20:34

Thank you, OP. I'm so glad you got out. Flowers

nalabae · 06/01/2022 20:34

Police did nothing about ex as well. Said him ringing me 20 times a day is okay. His horrible mother supported his actions and some how I was the issue.

TenPenceMix · 06/01/2022 20:45

Respect OP thanks for sharing.

Theunamedcat · 06/01/2022 21:24

@nalabae

Police did nothing about ex as well. Said him ringing me 20 times a day is okay. His horrible mother supported his actions and some how I was the issue.
Yes! The mother supports him so somehow that translates into he is a "good guy" because his mum loves him this woman actually helped him harrass the woman he was accused of raping she did everything she could to pretend I was a bad mum even reported to children services that my children were not clean they literally collected them from school and nursery of COURSE they weren't clean I sat in a meeting with children services listening to her say nan reported dirty clothing and a dirty face what's your response to this mum? I said clearly they have had a good time in school and nursery if it bothers them that much dad can run a flannel over there faces and change there clothing if he wishes nursery butted in with they are always clean when they arrive we have zero concerns about hygiene thankfully I had that back up because she tried everything to get them to admit I was a bad parent school said it was like playing wack a mole "ds has nappy rash" only on a Friday after he has been to dad's (wack) "ds doesn't eat" he eats at school maybe you should look at our menu for ideas (wack) "we haven't been told about term dates" term dates are publicly available on our website dad can access them im assuming you have Internet? (Wack)

It was petty

Plus all the driving past my house this car was outside your home on this date who was visiting? No-one literally No-one its a public highway anyone can park there I don't have a driveway the social worker visited and said where is your driveway? I literally don't have one is parking allocated? No anyone can park there! No-one believed me when I said this was out of order like it was normal behaviour

BlowDryRat · 06/01/2022 21:42

Thanks for sharing OP. MN also helped me when I escaped an abusive marriage. It's a fantastic source of support.

The police were involved a few times and were brilliant. I'm one of the women who won't give evidence against their rapist because what's the point? I hope that will change in the near future.

Cloverforever · 06/01/2022 22:00

Thank you for sharing your experience Sharon. Posts such as yours are helping women to learn about emotional abuse, and to get up the courage to leave. Mumsnet is such a powerful resource.

Hollywolly1 · 06/01/2022 22:35

I think you will give a lot of people on here some courage and it was kind of you to share your story as I feel a lot of people are ashamed to speak out.Flowersfor you and Flowersfor all the people in the same situation tonight and may they find peace soon.

iloverock · 06/01/2022 22:50

I don't wish anyone to go through this but I do wish more police had even the basic understanding of abuse.

My ex reported me to the police for stealing his bins (he ordered new ones to be delivered to my house and then reported me for stealing them)

Police officer came to the door, she was arsey and rude and I told her I was the victim. I had a non mol one place. She told me that we were both as bad as each other.

I told her where to go.

Enough4me · 06/01/2022 23:14

Thank you for showing how human we all are that policewoman can be pulled in by deceit as much as anyone else. I felt humiliated by my exH manipulating me and at times swamped by the feeling of that it would be easier to end my life then continue as he persisted years even after separation. I had therapy and that helped me see that he had put the worthlessness in my head, but I could take it out (I'm completely non contact with him now).

All the while I worked as a manager in an organisation and supported others, e.g. occupational health referrals. I'd walk in the doors and go through a mental closing down of what was going on at home. I struggled with living a lie, there's a Maya Angelou poem "When I think about myself", and I felt I was walking a dance and talking a song, everything around me felt controlled. Things are so much better now!

marly2 · 06/01/2022 23:14

@AdamRyan

Thank you I would never talk about being in a coercive relationship at work as I'm so ashamed of it. But I read this weenacullins.medium.com/the-covert-narcissist-guide-1e46959a6bd1 It made me realise that some of the things that make me a "strong woman" in others eyes is precisely why I'd be attracted to a manipulator. Hope you are doing OK now Flowers
Amazing article @AdamRyan. I didn't know that. I am resilient but didn't know that was a factor in attracting a narcissist, which I did in the past.
SolasAnla · 07/01/2022 01:46

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Igmum · 07/01/2022 05:26

Thank you for such a courageous post. You are absolutely right. I'm a very senior and successful professional. I was battered, belittled and stalked for many years. I think it took 120-150 batterings before I called the Police and that was only when I genuinely thought he would kill me that night. I never pressed charges, because it seemed so complicated and so unfair on him. I have been out of that situation for more than a decade but my daughter is still feeling it's effects, compounded for her by years of unsafe contact at the insistence of the Family Courts, who believe regular exposure to threats and violence is fine. Fortunately she no longer sees her father and has not for nearly five years but the effects of those years of violence and fear are horrific.

WhenwillIlearntoadult · 07/01/2022 07:53

I identify with a lot of your post and also found support in Mumsnet. Not through posting, as I didn’t have the courage to actually post. I started googling things like ‘what makes someone an alcoholic’ and noticed a lot of hits on Mumsnet. I’d never been on Mumsnet before, as I thought it was just for talking about babies! Over the space of a couple of years, my eyes were slowly opened and I eventually phoned a DV charity.
I do think there needs to be a huge shift in society’s attitude to domestic abuse. Some of the stories on this thread are horrible, in terms of the lack of support women received from police. Women are very often harshly criticised for staying in abusive relationships and that needs to change. If the response they are getting from the police is ‘you’re both as bad as each other’, how will they ever feel empowered enough to leave? I spent years trying to get out of my relationship and I felt everything was all my fault. I’m also one of those people who is perceived as ‘strong’ and ‘resilient’ but I couldn’t be strong enough to get away from him for years. I managed to end the relationship some months ago and have experienced huge guilt about not leaving sooner. He, on the other hand, is the ‘victim of my awful behaviour’. We seldom blame the perpetrator and instead of asking ‘why didn’t you leave?’, we should ask the perpetrator ‘why did you think it was ok to do that?’

WhenwillIlearntoadult · 07/01/2022 07:55

@thefourgp

Thank you for sharing this. It’s so important. I work as a complaint manager and frequently deal with hostile people. I’m fairly comfortable with confrontation (not that I like it but I’m trained on how to handle it) and I’m confident in getting my point across without being angry/aggressive. But I could never ‘win’ an argument/discussion with my ex no matter what awful thing he’d done. Everything was always my fault. He never apologised and took no responsibility for the misery he caused. It was so confusing and I felt weak and powerless. No-one should be made to feel that way by the person who’s meant to love them the most. Gaslighting, coercive control and emotional abuse needs to be talked about much more openly than it currently is.
Your words are exactly my experience too.
HereticFanjo · 07/01/2022 08:30

Thank you for sharing your story. There is hope for anyone in these relationships. MN is a brilliant, woman-centred resource.

catsareme14 · 07/01/2022 08:51

Thank you so much for posting . Can I please ask you to make sure your officers are trained carefully to identify & understand how these men behave when faced with a police officer .
The first time I called the police a woman officer came with a male colleague. She sent the male officer around to the back of the house where my husband was before she even got out of the car . She then got out and treated me with scorn & appalling rudeness . I was devastated.
Luckily the next time I called the police an amazing young male officer took it seriously and referred me to the DV service & offered ongoing support .

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