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Guest post: "As sex workers, our lives depend on decriminalisation"

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JosephineMumsnet · 07/07/2016 12:19

I was 19 years old when I made the decision to sell sex. An unorthodox choice, certainly, but one which helped me get through university without crippling debt, and later, a choice which would allow me to return to university as a single parent and complete my second degree. Please don't fall into the trap of assuming that because I'm a white, middle-class, educated woman I can't possibly understand the abject misery that is sometimes seen in our industry. I stood on Burlington Road in Dublin in the dead of winter, often drunk or out of my head on cocaine, or both, selling sex at £30 a time. That's not privileged. Now, with over 20 years behind me, I can finally put that experience to use, and educate people about the realities of our industry, and what would make us safer.

As the debate around the sex industry gathers steam, there are two schools of thought. Punish the punters by making it illegal to purchase sex, or decriminalise the laws around sex work. Let's look at both.

The law that criminalises the punter was introduced in Sweden in 1999 and has been an abject failure. Its aim was to reduce prostitution by reducing 'demand', but the Swedish government admits there has been no change to the number of buyers, or sellers. So what has changed? Violence against sex workers has increased sharply, with police targeting their homes to arrest buyers, often resulting in their being made homeless. The most vulnerable sex workers on the streets cannot be reached by outreach services, to facilitate condom distribution or needle exchange, as they need to work away from police detection. Sex workers are refusing to report violence to police, as they know they place themselves at risk from the very people supposed to protect them. Stigma has increased, with sex workers in both Sweden and Norway reporting having their children removed, and deportation of migrant sex workers is rife.

One of the most infuriating strands to the current feminist discourse around sex work is the assertion that we are abused, or even raped, every time we sell sex. That statement is injurious and grossly insulting to those who have survived abuse and rape, and it also strips sex workers of our agency. As much as we campaign for the right to say 'yes', we absolutely reserve the right to say 'no'. I detest the use of the word 'empowerment' in any debate on sex work. My job is no more empowering than anyone else's; it allows me to support my family and pay my bills. But as a community, there is no doubt that we are more empowered to say 'no' when we are permitted to work together for safety.

Under current legislation, and even more so under the Swedish model, sex workers are not permitted to work more than one to a premises. If I ask a friend to share an apartment with me so I feel safer in accepting visiting clients, we can be arrested and charged with 'pimping' from each other. That practice is commonplace. As cash, mobile phones and laptops are often removed as 'evidence', the women concerned are left with nothing but a criminal record, simply for wishing to stay safe.

So what is decriminalisation? Not to be confused with legalisation, it refers to the removal of all criminal prohibitions and penalties on sex work. In doing so, it protects the human rights of sex workers, as acknowledged by WHO, UNAIDS, The Lancet and more recently, Amnesty International.

Decriminalisation allows us to work together for safety, which is crucial. Decriminalisation also makes it easier to access justice and support services, and facilitates a better response to true exploitation in the industry. When the police work with us, not against us, we are best placed to identify and report others in danger.

On June 1 2015, the Northern Irish Assembly made it illegal to purchase sex. I have launched a High Court challenge to that law and will take it to the European Court of Human Rights if necessary. You may not like or be comfortable with the exchange of sex for money and that's fine - that's not what this debate is about. It's about our right to safety in the workplace. 154 sex workers have been murdered since 1990. We ask for your support for decriminalisation. Our lives depend on it.

Read Kat Banyard's post here.

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Felascloak · 12/07/2016 20:52

Well of course, because if sex work is just like any other work, why wouldn't the job centre/benefits office treat it that way?
It's one of the areas where the ramifications of insisting prostitution is just work starts to show up. I don't think most people put prostitution in the same basket as other necessary but icky jobs, like gutting fish or picking vegetables.

KatieKaboom · 12/07/2016 20:54

Dodgy posters are dodgy.

VestalVirgin · 12/07/2016 21:37

Apologies if this link has been posted before, but I found this article has some interesting points on the expression "sex worker":

www.feministcurrent.com/2016/06/20/rae-story-prostitution-neoliberalism-middle-classing-prostitution/

sixinabed · 12/07/2016 22:16

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GayeDalton · 12/07/2016 23:03

"Arguing for" and "happening now" are two very different things.

Thai sex workers make a lot more money than factory workers

DetestableHerytike · 12/07/2016 23:12

if you've got a link you think contributes to the discussion, why not post it?

Oh, and don't pm me. Ever. In case you were thinking of doing so.

GayeDalton · 12/07/2016 23:21

DetestableHerytike

What on earth would I want to PM you for? Will you grow up!

DetestableHerytike · 12/07/2016 23:35

Not talking to you, Gaye. Read the recent posts.

HTH

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 13/07/2016 00:05

Well of course, because if sex work is just like any other work, why wouldn't the job centre/benefits office treat it that way?
It's one of the areas where the ramifications of insisting prostitution is just work starts to show up. I don't think most people put prostitution in the same basket as other necessary but icky jobs, like gutting fish or picking vegetables

Of course prostitution is not like any other job.

Thai sex workers make a lot more money than factory workers

Oh well , that makes it all fine then.

GayeDalton · 13/07/2016 00:45

LassWiTheDelicateAir
Oh well , that makes it all fine then.

Yes, as a matter of fact it does.

TheRealPosieParker · 13/07/2016 07:31

How strange a man on a thread championing punters comes across as creepy. Creepy like you wouldn't want to be a room alone with him, a bit weirdly forceful and MRA like. [shudder]
What a coincidence.

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond · 13/07/2016 07:46

Ah, but the kind of creepy feeling that goes away with a bit of money isn't it, Posie...
Nope.

sixinabed · 13/07/2016 09:59

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TheRealPosieParker · 13/07/2016 10:22

YY BBBB

0phelia · 13/07/2016 13:43

Thai sex workers make a lot more money than Thai factory workers

How chilling. Thai sex workers are at far more risk of being murdered than factory workers.

Thai boys from the northern villages being brought up encouraged to become sex trade ladyboys, to bring money home to the family are far more likely to be murdered than any other sex worker.

In the UK we have a history of Trade Unionism which gave rise to something called the minimum wage meaning factory workers can earn enough, and often more than £5-a-job sex workers.
Why not encourage fair working practices and other left wing politics in these coutries rather than sex work for the most vulnerable.

DetestableHerytike · 13/07/2016 18:30

Well said, sixinabed

weeonion · 13/07/2016 20:18

Laura - thanks for that clarification.

The police Scotland policy has been under development for a long while - so I don't think the horrific murder in Aberdeen had a great deal to do with it tbh. I think it is possible to build relationships with the police to aid preventing violence and reporting it when it happens.

I wonder how a fully decriminalised model would support women in outcall situations. For example - the woman who was murdered by a punter in his home near Falkirk and where 2 women involved in escorting were raped???

LauraLee76 · 14/07/2016 11:45

Weeonion -
Excellent news re Police Scotland. I have been working with them on Jessica's case and will be giving evidence too, we did speak about developing a more realistic strategy re sexwork. Opening the channels of communication does work, but building trust takes time. In Northern Ireland we now have two police liasion officers which is a valuable first step.

Outcalls are very tricky in terms of personal safety but there are measures we can take. We have a buddy system where we let another sex worker know where we are at all times and use a code word in phone calls too, sometimes. It's not foolproof or guaranteed, indeed some sex workers choose not to do outcalls at all.

In terms of a decriminalised environment, what it would allow is for a sex worker to hire a driver to sit outside and wait. That's costly, but about the highest level of protection you can have, when the client is aware someone else is there. I don't necessarily mean a bouncer type, another sex worker could do it.

The current law assumes that when a sex worker and another person have overlapping finances, there must be coercion. Jean Urquhart's decriminalisation proposal does away with that, whilst still keeping sanctions in place for "real" coercion.

0phelia · 14/07/2016 12:29

In terms of a decriminalisation environment, what it would allow is for a sex worker to hire a driver to sit outside and wait

Sex workers can already have this level of protection when working for an escort agency in the UK. Neither the prostitute or driver are criminalised, only the agency owner can be, but this only ever happens once the owner causes public nuisance or is found guilty of trafficking. If they wind up the police in practice.

I have worked for agencies and earned good money with protection knowing neither myself or the driver will be arrested, and safe in the knowldge that if the agency is "dodgy" it will be closed down.

We do not need decriminalisation to protect sex workers. Decriminalisation makes life worse for us in so many ways wherever you find it.

An indy sex worker today can hire a driver if she wants but this will be extortionate in practice, she will not be arrested.

MassiveStrumpet · 14/07/2016 12:39

In a country with full criminalisation, like the US, I can see the argument for decriminalisation. But the laws in the UK aren't terribly onerous. I don't have to worry that an undercover cop is going to have sex with me in order to secure a solid conviction. I don't feel afraid to share a flat with another girl, either. My friend who rents the flat may be breaking the law but nobody is bothered. In most places, proper brothels are tolerated. Nobody really cares about a couple of independent escorts sharing rent and keeping one another safe.

If full decriminalisation means no laws that could be brought to bear when there is exploitation going on, then I don't see the upside.

I certainly don't like the look of the situation in Germany.

LauraLee76 · 14/07/2016 12:56

MassiveStrumpet - If that's your experience of working conditions then that's brilliant. I am of course aware that there are police forces who do turn a blind eye to brothels, Manchester being the most obvious one.

But that's not true for everywhere, in Scotland we have had several cases of women being prosecuted for working together and in the Republic of Ireland, the behaviour of police towards sex workers is nothing short of disgusting in some cases. (More than that I can't say because in some cases charges are pending where the sex worker concerned has been brave enough to report.)

Decriminalisation doesn't remove the ability to bring the full force of law down on those who exploit, that's just not true. Trafficking is already an offence, as is rape, as is kidnap, sex with a minor etc. Decriminalisation doesn't change that. What is does change is the working conditions of those less fortunate than you.

LauraLee76 · 14/07/2016 12:59

Orphelia - Shared finances are an offence in Scotland. Why do you think decriminalisation makes "life worse for us"? Genuine question. I worked in a decriminalised environment in Dublin and so can draw parallels from that.

MassiveStrumpet · 14/07/2016 13:52

I've shared flats in various places, including Scotland. I never really worried about it. I don't think I or my friends attract the attention of those who are concerned about vulnerable women.

I suppose I should be more concerned about the women who fit the profile of vulnerable women. Young, non-English-speaking, tend to travel in groups, and have adverts written suspiciously alike. I don't doubt that they're not grateful to be "rescued" by meddling do-gooders, but at the same time, if you can't work independently then maybe you are vulnerable. I don't really share Gaye's view that the most vulnerable ought to be able to fall back on sex work because the system has failed them.

LauraLee76 · 14/07/2016 14:05

Like you I travel about a lot too, and don't get bothered, I certainly don't fit into the vulnerable definition, though in saying that, that wasn't always the case. I too worry about younger migrant women, that they've made their own choice to come over and work in order to send money home. Having said that, I've met several on the tour circuit and man, they were tough cookies.

To turn what you've said on it's head, in my view, compelling women to work alone is what exacerbates any vulnerabilities they had to start off with. By which I mean, you can have three migrant women who are all independent workers, but choose to work together for safety.

With regards to the system failing, what we should be looking at are the driving forces which push vulnerable people into the sex trade in the first place. So that's poverty, drug addiction, marital breakdowns etc. and ask ourselves how best we can make those situations better.

Sex work is not always the answer, but for some it is a temporary solution, and it is our duty to ensure the safety of those who do take that option.