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Guest post: "Girls still think getting sweaty isn't for them"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 15/06/2016 11:04

We're about to embark on another glorious summer of sport, but for much of the population the exploits of Jessica Ennis-Hill in Brazil and the England men's team in France will have little impact on our everyday lives.

We know why, we've all seen the headlines: girls and women are not doing enough sport or exercise. Despite the increased visibility of female sporting role models, we're in the middle of an obesity crisis in this country and it's women and girls who are most at risk. Only 12% of 14-year-old girls do enough exercise, meanwhile one third of girls aged 12-15 in England are deemed overweight or obese. The estimated impact on the nation as a whole is startling: physical inactivity costs the UK economy £7.4bn a year.

The question is - why do so many women and girls have such a dysfunctional relationship with sport? While women's sport is more visible than ever (though still not visible enough, accounting for just 2% of all sports coverage in newspapers in 2013), why are we still getting it so wrong at grassroots level?

As someone who consistently bunked PE lessons throughout secondary school, now I'm a mum I find myself thinking a lot about how to make sure my daughter's relationship with sport and physical activity is a more positive one. Because although the policies are changing – such as the FA raising the age limit for girls and boys to play football together to 18 years – the culture is not.

I came across far too many depressing stories while researching for Eat Sweat Play. Like the mum who told me her eight-year-old daughter hates playing football in PE lessons because the boys refuse to pass to the girls and so they end up standing around getting cold and bored. Or the bright young football coach who told me that England women's success at the World Cup last year brought girls to his Under-10s football coaching sessions, but no matter how good they are the boys still won't accept them. Meanwhile, on my local parenting message board, mums lament that their five-year-old daughters cannot join a football session because the boys taking part are already so advanced the girls would be sidelined before they even start.

These examples are significant because they refute the common assumption that the problems for girls and sport begin at puberty. While periods and boobs are a barrier for girls taking up sport, or continuing to be active, the roots of the thing are much deeper.

With my own daughter I've watched how from a very early age a myriad of factors gave her the message that sport and being physically strong is for boys, while dolls and domestics are for girls. Comments from parents, images and slogans on kids' clothing, stories in books, programmes on TV…it's an anti-sport cultural assault that ensures young girls know that getting sweaty, muscular or powerful is not for them.

And so, in the summer of 2013 before she had even turned two years old, it was fascinating how she reacted to seeing England women on the TV at the European Championships. For the first time ever my daughter sat staring at the match, all those ponytails bobbing up and down the pitch. Girls! Like her! Playing sport! It was the first time she properly concentrated on a game of football.

Thank goodness then that Tracey Crouch, sports minister, has slashed the national sports strategy age target – from 14 years old to five – in an attempt to engage children as they start school. Because if we expect future generations of adults to do 150 minutes of exercise a week to stay healthy, then we've got to engender the habit in our kids first.

But while schools and sports coverage all play their part, arguably the most important role models of all are parents. Running down the street together, kicking a ball in the park, cycling, swimming, talking about sport and exercise, finding women's sport to watch on TV, or in the local area – all give girls the message that sport is for them. But with 75% of women telling Sport England that while they would like to play sport, fear of judgement stops them from having a go.

We've got to break the cycle somewhere though, and if children see their mums doing sport and exercise, they will likely follow in their footsteps. And who knows where that could take them. Laura Trott might never have won two Olympic gold medals had her mum not taken up cycling to lose weight.

And perhaps, similarly, Laura Trott's mum might never have taken up cycling if she didn't have children to be a role model for. That's the beauty of parenting. Sometimes our children motivate us to confront our biggest fears, even if it's a lifetime of PE dodging, in order to make a change for good.

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Bails2014 · 15/06/2016 20:46

I've ridden horses since I was four years old, it's not a sport , it's a way of life.

We were made to play football at school once, I was huffing and puffing about doing and my teacher asked me what sport I would rather do instead, so I answered with horse riding, only to be shot down and told that we can't all afford to ride horses. (Which was crap, it cost my parents £7 a week for me to ride at the local riding school and 'work' there in my spare time). It was a stupid attitude from the teacher as my old school had and indeed still has a school equestrian team.

Ghodavies · 15/06/2016 20:52

My daughter is a competitive swimmer and doesn't have a problem with being sweaty or working hard.
It helps that she is massively competitive, however even she says that PE can be boring and not much fun.
I appreciate its hard trying to cater for everyone but my daughter (in year 7) has found lots of lunchtime sport clubs to go to and enjoys athletics after school too.
I don't partake in sport (ill health) but I am always willing to take my children to any activity they want to try so they can gain as many experiences as possible.
We occasionally go for family walks at the weekends (if there are any free from football/rugby/cricket/hockey/swimming!! But equally my kids enjoy hanging out and relaxing

Susiesue61 · 15/06/2016 21:00

Dd is very sporty and her chosen sport is cricket with a bit of football.
She doesn't look sporty - in that she's solidly built (but her makeup and hair are immaculate!) I've noticed over the years that girls have to have far more motivation and drive than the boys. She won our cricket club's junior player of the year last season and was the first girl ever to do so.
In cricket, girls struggle to get enough to play and certainly our club treats the ladies like lesser beings Angry

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 15/06/2016 21:55

Anna, what's your view on the growing number of trans athletes beating biological girls & women at sport?

Do you think that added to the IOC ruling on transwomen being able to compete in women's Olympic events if they have less than 10 x the standard female level of testosterone, regardless of their physical advantages, our days in competitive sport could be numbered? How can we have fair play for women and girls while also enabling transwomen/girls to compete at their chosen sports?

TallulahTheTiger · 15/06/2016 23:11

Another who agrees sport at school was not helpful, I was a dancer during school years so I was fit, but hated netball, hockey lacrosse which were the girls options. Didn't help that teachers played blatant favourites and would bugger off in lessons leaving their favourites to pick teams and manage/referree the games!

Dozer · 16/06/2016 06:13

I was active as a small child and encouraged by parents but lost interest due to there being no girls' teams, poor quality PE at a secondary school that offered no extracurricular sport, and self consciousness about my body.

A lot of your comments are about sexism at school and parents, teachers and sports coaches tolerating it. Eg the assumption from many parents that it's not surprising boys like football and girls wouldn't Confused. What can be done to tackle the sexism? A PP has suggested girls only football, rugby - great idea.

Private schools have more resources and often DC do a LOT of sport, like it or not!

As for women role modelling by taking exercise, I do this for my own health. it requires your partner to do a fair share of parenting and domestic work.

branofthemist · 16/06/2016 06:52

I hated Pe and all exercise. Until I had Dd. I knew early exposure to exercise would make it a habit.

Sport wasn't her forte until she got into year 7 last September. Although she loved it. She wasn't great.

However, less than a year later she is very sporty. Her hobby is a sport that few girls do. I believe this has helped because the owners are a man and a woman who make clear it's not a 'boys sport'. The best competitor at the hobby is also a girl. The environment really does discount gender.

It's also a hobby that focuses on mental strength and conditioning your brain. Dd has learnt to push herself when it comes to sport.

At school she now does rugby, tennis and rounders after school. The PE lessons have one sport session a week and one that focuses on more fitness based things. Like circuits, interval training, the couch to 5k. It's building good habits. Also at the beginning of each term there is a fitness test. They are not competing against each other. The teachers are looking for improvement on their last one. This really helps and Dd is buzzing when she has bet her last one. It focuses her on keeping up to being fit all term long.

She is very short for her age and has learnt to not focus on winning. But focus on doing her best. She ran a 200 meter race yesterday. She came third but was so happy because the other 4 were all a lot taller than her. We always encourage her to look at the positives not the fact that she didn't come first.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 16/06/2016 08:15

I also agree with TwoWongs and Almond.

The only time I was ever interested in PE at school was when they took us to the local gym and we learnt how to use the equipment.
Not everyone likes competive sport.

I agree with TwoWrongs. Most women (or men for that matter) don't participate in competitive sport as adults. It would be far better to scrap compulsory 'sport' and have PE be about learning exercise habits that people are likely to actually carry on with in adult life - Zumba type exercise classes, gym equipment

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 16/06/2016 08:16

I'm too tired to mn. Put the pasted but in the wrong place. Sorry

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 16/06/2016 08:29

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GrendelsMother23 · 16/06/2016 09:18

Fabulous post, Anna, thank you. I was very encouraged to play sport and run around as a child, but I generally hated to do it because a) I was terrible and no one bothered to teach me the rules/bring on my technique, and b) by the age of eleven I was already convinced that I was too fat to ever be able to use my body athletically. How do you think that educators can teach children who need to exercise (as I definitely did, and still do, being a type I diabetic) the skills and tools they need to feel competent using their own bodies, while not making them feel embarrassed or ashamed?

trailblazer86 · 16/06/2016 09:19

You mention 'an obesity crisis'; as an ex- primary school teacher, I found that those girls who were already very overweight or obese were much less inclined to join in in PE lessons. Any ideas on how to remedy this? I felt it was because of self-consciousness about their bodies.

Dollybluevanilla · 16/06/2016 09:19

Great post Anna!
In addition to mums/families getting on their bikes, could you give us your top three 'dream' solutions to this issue?
Thanks

Chazmataz · 16/06/2016 09:19

Really interesting as was your piece in the Observer magazine this weekend. Lots of things ring true but I hadn't really thought about them before. My mum did no exercise when I was a teen and I'm sure that did impact me! In her late 50s, she's now taken up swimming and goes most mornings, which I think was a big thing for her and I'm very impressed.

I remember having the experience of not being passed the ball at school, but in all girls groups - my school was good for girls sports but sport was for the 'sporty', as it were. So my question is.. How can we make sure sport and exercise can be inclusive and fun for everyone - not just those who will make the school teams?

Peanutbutterjellytime123 · 16/06/2016 09:20

I always loved sport as a kid and I was lucky that my mum did everything she could to make sure I could play, however I soon lost the spark and since have become really self conscious whilst out for a run due to people shouting out of car windows.

How can I teach my children to ignore these people when even I'm scared to go for a run?

TheSandmansSon · 16/06/2016 09:22

Hi Anna

I know that in some countries the schools run a kind of tai-chi/yoga class first thing instead of assembly - do you think something like that would work in the UK, as a way of making fitness a part of daily life?

kittykitty · 16/06/2016 09:23

Hi Anna - question for when you're on...

Do you think councils could do more to encourage teenage girls to take up membership of their gyms to encourage greater levels of activity?

SlightlyPeeved · 16/06/2016 09:23

Hi Anna,

I have two girls, one is 7 and the other is 12, I also have a 9 year old boy.
Their dad is football man and coaches our youngest's football team.

For DS, it was just normal and natural that he did football in the eyes of society - that's what boys do. When DD 7 wanted to join, it was a total non-issue for us but the reaction from others was utter shock. She has begun to call herself a "tom boy" in order to fit in, just one of the lads, it makes my blood boil.

DD 12 is obsessed with her weight, as are all of her friends and yet being sporty is only allowed for those who are considered excellent at sport, otherwise, why bother?

They and society has a massively warped view on women in sport and on health. Everything is food focused, this leads to MH issues, self-esteem and body issues. We don't seem to celebrate girls in sport in the same way, there is a nasty stigma attached to it.

DD7 faces an uphill battle to progress in football due to peer pressure, she has the character and couldn't care less attitude that will carry her through. DD12 does not and although she had a go, she didn't make the hockey or netball team and so she thinks she's rubbish and has given up.

I could write pages, apologies for the waffle, but what can I do to refocus DD12 and get her to exercise more just for fun?

snowysnowstorms · 16/06/2016 09:30

How can we help girls to confront sexist attitudes in teachers? The male PE teachers at my school would never let girls play football, that pitch was always reserved for the boys. It was infuriating but nobody wanted to risk kicking up a fuss or getting into trouble.

Dozer · 16/06/2016 09:48

Why should girls have to deal with that? The example you give is a teacher performance and management issue.

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 16/06/2016 10:31

What about older girls.... Once school and PE lessons are no longer in the equation

My girls are now 20 and 22 and both hated PE but now go to the gym and run

The running is more about doing something to give them an adrenalin rush or 'lift' whereas the gym is for weightloss and fitness

Numberoneisgone · 16/06/2016 10:34

This is an interesting post and I definitely see the need for improvements in sporting attainment for girls for the massive physical and mental health vendors gained from physical activity.

Howevet the obesity epidemic is, in the main, caused by overeating not inactivity. I think this constant emphasis on sports and exercise as a means to end the obesity epidemic is deflecting from the real problem.

Numberoneisgone · 16/06/2016 10:35

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tinofbeans · 16/06/2016 10:54

Thanks for your great post Anna! I was a PE teacher for 10 years and the lack of self confidence many of the girls (and some boys) had in their physical ability was appalling!

I think it's really important for girls to feel that they are welcome, supported and encouraged to take part in sport and that everyone has a valuable contribution.

When my daughter was 3 I started looking for sports for her to do and the only options were toddler football, gymnastics (too scary for her), dance (she wasn't interested) or swimming (I wasn't prepared to queue outside the leisure centre at 6am on a sunday morning to get her a place). In the end, we chose the football, but she was the only girl in the class... at 3 years old!

Anyway - I've started a sports coaching company to try and help fix the problem - we offer a range of sports from ages 2-7 and we actively market to girls as well as children in general :-)

BobbinThreadbare123 · 16/06/2016 11:03

I think that many of us who went to secondary school in the 80s and 90s suffered during PE lessons; I did endless dull games of netball, rounders and short tennis at secondary school. We'd started off in Year 7 and 8 doing gymnastics, some outdoors stuff and even a little rock climbing, but girls started to bunk off and the school did nothing about it.

It's this exposure to poor attitudes and quite frankly bitchy PE teachers who wouldn't offer rugby, football or gym use (my school had a gym!) that feeds into the next generation.

I don't think US women have this, because their female athletes and football players are paid a lot and treated like the professionals they are. That's why many of our best sportswomen go over there, usually for university, to get to higher levels.

I think the closure of lots of leisure centres and swimming pools by councils isn't helping either.