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MumsnetGuestPosts · 14/01/2016 12:12

Is any meal as hotly anticipated as a baby's first bite of solid food? As parents, we anxiously research our options. Baby rice versus sweet potato. Purée versus baby-led weaning. Offering the first morsel, we stare at the tiny face for signs of enjoyment. Will we get a smile or will it – the trauma! – be rejected?

So desperate are we to make our babies happy, we haven't noticed that we have got feeding the wrong way round. We try to give our children what they like, when really we should be trying to help them develop their palates so they relish a wider range of flavours.

Newborns the world over beam at the taste of sweetness and treat bitter foods like poison. If you only give them the foods that automatically make them smile, you are setting them up for a sweet tooth.

I definitely made this mistake with my daughter, our middle child. I bought a weaning guide and spent hours whipping up batches of vegetable mixtures. Every time she tasted one, I drew an emoticon next to it in the book. Butternut squash: smile. Broccoli: frown. Spinach: double frown. Ah, I thought, so she's not a green vegetable person.

What I did not fully realise then was that we are not born with our preferences. They are something we each have to learn for ourselves. When my daughter grimaced at a bite of spinach, she was not telling me that greens sucked. It was just a natural physiological response. As adults, we still pucker our mouths on tasting a slice of bitter lime, but it doesn't necessarily mean we hate citrus fruit.

If we want our children to eat a varied diet, we need to persist with offering them a spectrum of flavours – preferably without grimacing ourselves. The main way anyone learns to like anything is simply to try it a lot of times, in a positive way.

According to a government survey from 2010, 57% of British parents offer baby rice – with its bland, sweet flavour - as the first food. But a fascinating study published last year, involving 139 families, showed that babies weaned straight onto a varied vegetable diet in those early months are more adventurous.

One group of parents gave their babies a smorgasbord of different vegetables for two weeks. 'Day 1: Carrot. Day 2: Spinach. Day 3: Peas. Day 4: Swede', and so on. A control group were weaned onto the usual baby rice. On Day 15, both groups of babies were offered a taste of unfamiliar artichoke purée. The babies weaned onto a rainbow of vegetables ate significantly more of the artichoke.

The science suggests that any baby is capable of learning wide enough tastes to eat a balanced and healthy diet. The good news is that no one is doomed by their genes to be a chocoholic.

I'm not saying every child will find it easy. When you are trapped in teatime battles, it's annoying to encounter smug parents whose children will 'try anything – celeriac's her favourite!' Some babies are born with conditions that make eating trickier, such as a delay to the oral-motor system. I had no idea how fraught the basic matter of getting food from plate to mouth could be until my third child was born with cleft palate and he and I both struggled at mealtimes. He is now six and new dishes occasionally still provoke tears (usually his).

But recent work by feeding psychologists has shown it is possible for even extremely selective eaters to slowly broaden horizons. The secret is what Dr Lucy Cooke – a psychologist who works at Great Ormond Street – calls 'Tiny Tastes'. If the piece of food being attempted is as small as a pea or even a grain of rice, it is much less traumatic for a child to taste it. At clinics in America, this method has been tailored to fussy eaters on the autistic spectrum. In one case, a toddler called Jim went from eating nothing but toasted cheese sandwiches and hotdogs to enjoying 65 different foods. This is life-changing.

'Tiny Tastes' can also work with less extreme fussy eaters. Dr Cooke – who has trialled the method in UK schools and homes – finds it works best if the tasting sessions are done outside mealtimes, to reduce the pressure. The child chooses the vegetable to work on, which makes them feel less trapped. And they get a sticker for every taste – even a lick. I used 'Tiny Tastes' on my own youngest when he was four and was startled by how quickly it turned him from someone who said 'yuck' when he heard the word cabbage to a happy nibbler of raw green leaves.

Ultimately, that first meal matters less than all the ones that come after. Given the chance, children are capable of learning new tastes at any age. Even as adults, we can change our palates, bit by bit.

Oh, and my daughter? She's now 13 - and it turns out she is a green vegetable person after all.

NOTE: Following discussion on the thread below, the title of this guest post has been updated to better reflect the author's intentions.

Bee Wilson is the author of First Bite: How we Learn to Eat.

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MiddleClassProblem · 14/01/2016 16:01

What do you do with fussy eater husbands?

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trilbydoll · 14/01/2016 16:10

I'm with ouryve too, sorry. And just to add some anecdata dd2 doesn't like anything sweet, she's 8m.

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GColdtimer · 14/01/2016 16:18

Dd1 (10) is really fussy. Apparently she is s a super taster (went to a science festival and they did all sort of tests - tonnes more taste buds , highly sensitive to flavour.

Dd2 slightly fussy but doesn't do the dramatic face pulling dd1 does when she eats something she doesn't like. Happy to try new things.

I would say dd1 born that way.

Sorry for you loss sugar Thanks

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TwoLeftSocks · 14/01/2016 16:20

Totally with you there ouvyre.

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Joskar · 14/01/2016 16:20

I KNEW it was all my fault dd1 eats bugger all. Bad, bad mummy.

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Duckdeamon · 14/01/2016 16:23
Biscuit
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megletthesecond · 14/01/2016 16:26
Biscuit
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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/01/2016 16:27

Flowers Sugar.

Ds has various sensory hypersensitivities so it would be quite strange to assume his sensitivity to tastes wasn't innate as part of that whole package. We have put a lot of work into expanding his palate with some success but the odds are he will always be a fussy eater. Whereas dd has always been easy.

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BellasBall · 14/01/2016 16:42

If you are happy with what you eat why change? My brother is autistic anr nearly 30 and only eats a few things. He said he wouldn't want to live a life eating foods most people eat. I don't see the need to change people... well I do for this op she is trying to make money by selling books.

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BonjourMinou · 14/01/2016 16:44

Rubbish! Dd1 was blw and tried loads of vegetables as a baby. Now she's a toddler she's a massive fusspot. But well done on being so smug.

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thestylethatdecadesforgot · 14/01/2016 16:51

So sorry sugar21

And your post was really interesting PitPatKitKat, I've often thought that about pregnancy cravings. I don't get cravings but this time, prey with dc4 I had an absolute must have avocados for about 10 days and scoffed a load of them. Then the urgent need went away!

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Alisvolatpropiis · 14/01/2016 16:52

I think some fussy eaters are made but a lot are born that way.

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cosytoaster · 14/01/2016 16:59

2 DC brought up the same. DC1 - will eat almost anything. DC2 v fussy and eat almost no veg. Both fit and healthy.

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usual · 14/01/2016 17:01

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AgathaF · 14/01/2016 17:03

Yup ourvye, another one here agreeing with your statement.

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thisismypassword · 14/01/2016 17:03

Actually ms knowitall babies have an evolutionary propensity for sweet foods.

www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/03/19/291406696/why-a-sweet-tooth-may-have-been-an-evolutionary-advantage-for-kids

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FreeButtonBee · 14/01/2016 17:11

Hmm, so why does one of my twins happily eat broccoli, lettuce, tomatoes and won't touch ice cream and barely eats chocolate and the other have the sweetest tooth ever and eats sweet corn, carrots and beans and that's about it for veg? Both breastfed for a year, did baby led weaning with both.

Nature and genes has its impact no matter what parents do

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whatevva · 14/01/2016 17:11

Not sure what Ourvye said, but I think I agree too.

DS1 was fussy from birth and would only eat rice/milupa crap or breadsticks. We have him on video dropping his chocolate hedgehog 1st birthday cake on the floor, never mind the vegetables...........We spent years outwitting him to get him to eat proper food.

There is hope - by his mid teens, he was eating a much better diet than his 'properly weaned' contemporaries.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 14/01/2016 17:14

whatevva

ODFOD = oh do fuck off dear.

Suspect you still agree! Grin

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whatevva · 14/01/2016 17:16

Bit Cameron, but yes Grin

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OvO · 14/01/2016 17:19

What ourvye said.

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EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 14/01/2016 17:19

Oh, Sugar! Flowers So sorry for your loss, so tragic.

Some children are made fussy, but others most definitely choose likes and dislikes for themselves.

My children were both brought up eating exactly the same things. Just a few examples of how things changed over time (and for most, they both liked them when they were fed them):
Marmite - DD loves it, DS hates it
Banana - DD hates it, DS loves it
Cauliflower Cheese - DD loves it, DS hates it
Lamb - both hate it
Beetroot - both hate it
Potato - DD loves any kind, DS hates every kind (although both dislike chips)

My list could go on and on, but I think the point is made, the same as with previous posters.

Both DC are incredibly adventurous. (DD ate scorpion in Thailand). Both of them love squid, DD likes octopus. DS likes spicy food, DD doesn't. They have managed to decide for themselves what they like and dislike. Really nothing to do with me as a parent at all.

Also with the potato thing for DS, apparently if you eat something a certain number of times (is it seven?) you will get to like it. Not true - he is now 20 and cannot abide the texture of potato in any form.

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firesidechat · 14/01/2016 17:21

Oh God it's the bloody parents fault again.

That so explains why I had one who eats anything and one very fussy eater. Nothing to do with sensory issues at all. Oh no. Hmm

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mercifulTehlu · 14/01/2016 17:22

I fed my dc lots of veg as babies. They would both eat almost anything until they were about 2 (including slices of lemon Confused). Then they became fussy eaters and still are (age 10 and 7 ). This seems to be a pretty common pattern, from what I've heard. Not sure how it fits in with the theory in this guest post...

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VagueIdeas · 14/01/2016 17:26

When I read the first few sentences I thought "What's the author selling?"

Ah, a book...

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