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Guest post: Sandi Toksvig - "The time is right for the Women's Equality Party"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 06/11/2015 17:49

I'm rather old fashioned in my beliefs. I always thought that when Parliament passed a law, people were supposed to take notice. So how is it that 45 years ago an Equal Pay Act was introduced, and yet no one has really acted to make sure we get it? When I mentioned the gender pay gap to the environment minister, Liz Truss, she said "It's smaller than it's ever been." It's at 19%. How big was it before?

Much of the world baffles me. How does the UK tolerate the fact that so many women because they are women still live in poverty, suffer harassment and violence, and abandon careers they enjoy because of the exorbitant costs of childcare? I've come to the sad conclusion that in its current form our political system can't be trusted to deal with any of this. There are twice as many men as women in the House of Commons, and they seem to spend most of their time shouting and jeering at one another. Frankly, like many of you, I'm embarrassed by it. Seven months ago, in conversation with my friend Catherine Mayer, I realised it was time for us to take matters into our own hands.

So in March 2015 we founded the Women's Equality Party, a new political force that (we hoped) would unite people of all genders, ages, backgrounds, ethnicities, beliefs and experiences in the shared determination to see women enjoy the same rights and opportunities as men. It would be something new. Non-partisan. Attracting people from the left, from the right, from the centre. People who have had enough of waiting for equality. I have to say even at my most ambitious and optimistic, I could not have predicted the flood of support that soon washed over us. Within seven months WE have more than 50,000 members and supporters, ably led by Sophie Walker, 65 branches across the country and will be standing candidates in the spring elections.

This is not some dreamy group wistfully hoping for change. Late last month, just six months after that initial conversation, I found myself sitting in a hall packed with cheering activists and supporters, clutching a book of wonderfully pragmatic policy proposals. Policies developed through close consultation with experts and our members, and representing the experiences and concerns of thousands of women and men across the country.

WE heard from mothers who want to go back to work but can't, because of crippling childcare costs, and because so few workplaces have actually embraced flexible working.

WE heard from mothers who choose to stay at home, but feel dismissed by society for doing so because, despite its immense value, caring labour is still not recognised, respected and supported.

WE heard from fathers who desperately want to share the joys and responsibilities of parenthood, but are stigmatised for wanting to balance work and home life.

All these experiences reinforced our awareness that care is not taken seriously in our society, nor are the people who care.

WE want to change that.

That's why we propose a dramatic overhaul of parental leave policy. We would guarantee both parents six weeks of non-transferable leave on 90% pay, with an additional 10 months of shared parental leave at statutory pay. This policy would, of course, encompass same-sex couples and adoptive parents, while single parents would be entitled to nominate a second caregiver.

Once this period of leave has passed, WE believe that families should immediately have access to affordable, high-quality childcare. The educational benefits of childcare are clearest in the first 15 hours a week, so those hours should be entirely state funded, with the rest payable at one pound per hour by parents.

These policies are good for women, who have greater freedom to balance work and home life (which will, of course, mean different things to different people). But they're also excellent for men who, for too long, have been excluded from participating fully in family life because care is seen as unmanly, and paternity leave as unprofessional.

Of course, all of our policies require a blend of legislative and cultural change. The reason the Equal Pay Act still isn't working properly is because back in 1970 we changed the law without changing the way people think.

And that's where education comes in.

Many people think equality in education has already been achieved, since girls consistently outperform boys academically. But education is about more than grades, it's about learning how to live, and work, and build relationships. And at present, our children are learning to live according to ludicrous, outdated notions of 'masculine' and 'feminine' behaviour.

So WE want more diverse role models for both boys and girls, starting with encouraging more men to enter primary school teaching and other caring roles. And WE want careers guidance that pays no heed to gender when helping young people to map their futures. And WE want proper, honest sex and relationships education to finally become a reality.

It all sounds very obvious and straightforward, doesn't it? Sadly, enacting these policies will be a lot harder than formulating them. And that's why WE need you. Join us, share your ideas. The time is right for this movement, and WE want you to be part of it.

Photo: Fiona Hanson

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reni2 · 11/11/2015 15:09

I'm out, too. Call it TWEP and have a small but loyal and fierce band of followers or call it WEP (and act as if it is) and have 50% to fight for and with.

almondpudding · 11/11/2015 15:20

TiggyD, having first hand experience of something is not the same as seeing it happen.

As you say, it is not a controversial opinion that it is a bad thing for a child to not seen men looking after children for ten years. But such things do not happen. If you walk around any town, you will see men looking after children.

What you are actually advocating for is that every child under ten should have the experience of being looked after by a man, and by mentioning single mothers that suggests you mean you want

a. more paid work for men
b. disapprove of children being brought up solely by women.

The issue should be one of men equally participating in unpaid work. There are huge numbers of men who are involved in children's lives, often living with them, and setting a bad example by not participating fully. That is the bad example. The problem is not children of single mothers or that women's groups aren't working hard enough to create even more job opportunities for men.

howtorebuild · 11/11/2015 15:28

I am glad I know where they stand now. I now know not to bother answering any more of their surveys and I will block their emails, they aren't interested in putting me and my daughter's interests first.

almondpudding · 11/11/2015 15:34

I love also that in the reply to Empress a women's equality party manages to list every protected characteristic of the equality act as a way that someone may be doubly disadvantaged except for sex, pregnancy and maternity.

It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

QueenStromba · 11/11/2015 15:50

Ah well. I had high hopes for WE and was really considering joining them but if this is the lack of respect that they have for their potential supporters and for vulnerable women then they are no better than any of the other parties.

QueenStromba · 11/11/2015 15:55

I'm really glad that I found out before I'd spent any of my time, money or effort supporting them.

reni2 · 11/11/2015 16:01

Indeed, QueenStromba, having to lobby a women's equality party to stand up for vulnerable women is depressing.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 11/11/2015 16:05

You know, I think you're right about not replying, howtorebuild. They're not different, they're just politicians with a USP.

The reply didn't answer a single one of my points & implied that they definitely hadn't bothered to look at this thread. Well, serves WE right, they've just blown all credibility with what you'd think was their target audience. Apparently not.

QueenStromba · 11/11/2015 16:13

Yep. If they'd come back and said it was a mistake and they would try to make sure it wouldn't happen again then I'd have given them the benefit of the doubt.

They've also ballsed up this guest post - we were never going to be happy with a post and run even if it weren't for the Tara Hudson case. Maybe they'll have better luck on NetMums.

HairyLittleCarrot · 11/11/2015 17:03

"support the right of all to define their sex or gender"

Bloody hell, WEP.

so, define it, don't define it, choose it, reject it whatevs.

Congratulations. You have successfully rendered your own party utterly redundant and meaningless.

The equality party.

Fighting for ...ermm....
because the world is still discriminating against....erm....
and statistics show that....nothing....
and the most disadvantaged half of society is the....nope.

Bravo.

reni2 · 11/11/2015 17:26

Fabulous, HairyLittleCarrot, I'd love to see that emblazoned on a bedsheet held up at their next conference Grin Grin Grin

The equality party.

Fighting for ...ermm....
because the world is still discriminating against....erm....
and statistics show that....nothing....
and the most disadvantaged half of society is the....nope.

HermioneWeasley · 11/11/2015 17:32

Well, how very disappointing. But at least that answers my question about whether or not I should join.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 11/11/2015 17:39

Sandi Toksvig is going to Blogfest, isn't she? Wonder if she's planning to promote the Whatever Equality Party?

reni2 · 11/11/2015 17:43

Whatever Equality Party, Empress, love it. It is depressing.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 11/11/2015 17:50

It's very depressing.

squidzin · 11/11/2015 18:50

It's Guardian reader level "equality".

In other words; Power structures reinforced, under a guise of "reform".

CharlieSierra · 11/11/2015 18:54

If they support fully functional males in female spaces I wonder where they stand on lesbians and sex with transwomen, Sandi??

QueenStromba · 11/11/2015 19:01

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ArcheryAnnie · 11/11/2015 19:10

Hmm, QueenStromba, I'm really, seriously not keen on putting it in such a personal way - even if the political party Sandi heads has quite possibly helped throw a number of vulnerable women into Tara's path who may be forced to consider exactly that.

I get why you'd say that, but I don't think it's the way to go on this.

OddBoots · 11/11/2015 19:11

I'm on your side here QueenStromba and I understand the point you are making but I think that is a question too far, she has never made a comment like Owen Jones about these things.

QueenStromba · 11/11/2015 19:16

You're probably right, I'm angry though. I'd have thought that a supposedly feminist party started by a lesbian wouldn't have gone this route.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 11/11/2015 19:19

I agree that comment's over the line but that's ok Stromba, I think we're all angry. I'm just glad I never got round to donating.

howtorebuild · 11/11/2015 19:19

They likely consulted a solicitor. As has already been said they are like any other political party.

OddBoots · 11/11/2015 19:21

I know, QS, it does feel like yet another betrayal, people you thought would understand being unwilling or unable to recognise the failing of the emperor's new clothes. It hurts, but it isn't the first time and it won't be the last and I get the feeling we are going to need every bit of our remaining strength.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 11/11/2015 19:23

Oh Sad disappointed in WEP's stance but not surprised really.

WRT Sandi not having come back to this thread, I think it's partly the fault of the 'Guest Post' format and how it's presented to contributers. I've grumbled about it before.

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