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Guest post: Sandi Toksvig - "The time is right for the Women's Equality Party"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 06/11/2015 17:49

I'm rather old fashioned in my beliefs. I always thought that when Parliament passed a law, people were supposed to take notice. So how is it that 45 years ago an Equal Pay Act was introduced, and yet no one has really acted to make sure we get it? When I mentioned the gender pay gap to the environment minister, Liz Truss, she said "It's smaller than it's ever been." It's at 19%. How big was it before?

Much of the world baffles me. How does the UK tolerate the fact that so many women because they are women still live in poverty, suffer harassment and violence, and abandon careers they enjoy because of the exorbitant costs of childcare? I've come to the sad conclusion that in its current form our political system can't be trusted to deal with any of this. There are twice as many men as women in the House of Commons, and they seem to spend most of their time shouting and jeering at one another. Frankly, like many of you, I'm embarrassed by it. Seven months ago, in conversation with my friend Catherine Mayer, I realised it was time for us to take matters into our own hands.

So in March 2015 we founded the Women's Equality Party, a new political force that (we hoped) would unite people of all genders, ages, backgrounds, ethnicities, beliefs and experiences in the shared determination to see women enjoy the same rights and opportunities as men. It would be something new. Non-partisan. Attracting people from the left, from the right, from the centre. People who have had enough of waiting for equality. I have to say even at my most ambitious and optimistic, I could not have predicted the flood of support that soon washed over us. Within seven months WE have more than 50,000 members and supporters, ably led by Sophie Walker, 65 branches across the country and will be standing candidates in the spring elections.

This is not some dreamy group wistfully hoping for change. Late last month, just six months after that initial conversation, I found myself sitting in a hall packed with cheering activists and supporters, clutching a book of wonderfully pragmatic policy proposals. Policies developed through close consultation with experts and our members, and representing the experiences and concerns of thousands of women and men across the country.

WE heard from mothers who want to go back to work but can't, because of crippling childcare costs, and because so few workplaces have actually embraced flexible working.

WE heard from mothers who choose to stay at home, but feel dismissed by society for doing so because, despite its immense value, caring labour is still not recognised, respected and supported.

WE heard from fathers who desperately want to share the joys and responsibilities of parenthood, but are stigmatised for wanting to balance work and home life.

All these experiences reinforced our awareness that care is not taken seriously in our society, nor are the people who care.

WE want to change that.

That's why we propose a dramatic overhaul of parental leave policy. We would guarantee both parents six weeks of non-transferable leave on 90% pay, with an additional 10 months of shared parental leave at statutory pay. This policy would, of course, encompass same-sex couples and adoptive parents, while single parents would be entitled to nominate a second caregiver.

Once this period of leave has passed, WE believe that families should immediately have access to affordable, high-quality childcare. The educational benefits of childcare are clearest in the first 15 hours a week, so those hours should be entirely state funded, with the rest payable at one pound per hour by parents.

These policies are good for women, who have greater freedom to balance work and home life (which will, of course, mean different things to different people). But they're also excellent for men who, for too long, have been excluded from participating fully in family life because care is seen as unmanly, and paternity leave as unprofessional.

Of course, all of our policies require a blend of legislative and cultural change. The reason the Equal Pay Act still isn't working properly is because back in 1970 we changed the law without changing the way people think.

And that's where education comes in.

Many people think equality in education has already been achieved, since girls consistently outperform boys academically. But education is about more than grades, it's about learning how to live, and work, and build relationships. And at present, our children are learning to live according to ludicrous, outdated notions of 'masculine' and 'feminine' behaviour.

So WE want more diverse role models for both boys and girls, starting with encouraging more men to enter primary school teaching and other caring roles. And WE want careers guidance that pays no heed to gender when helping young people to map their futures. And WE want proper, honest sex and relationships education to finally become a reality.

It all sounds very obvious and straightforward, doesn't it? Sadly, enacting these policies will be a lot harder than formulating them. And that's why WE need you. Join us, share your ideas. The time is right for this movement, and WE want you to be part of it.

Photo: Fiona Hanson

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EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 16/11/2015 09:48

Seems so ironic that the Blogfest ad with Sandi's beaming face always appears for this thread.

QueenStromba · 17/11/2015 08:59

This is a great example of why a lot of us are worried about WEP counting transwomen as women. This is an American 'feminist' website telling women that we should be campaigning for transwomen to be able to freeze their sperm for free instead of for reproductive rights for women e.g. universal access to contraception and abortion.

ArcheryAnnie · 17/11/2015 09:20

That's because we have to "centre" them in all our activism, QueenStromba. God forbid we ever, ever dare to put women first.

BeyondThirty · 17/11/2015 12:09

Yep, in a country where abortion can be illegal, feminists definitely need to be campaigning to freeze TW sperm Hmm

HamaTime · 20/11/2015 17:28

Just had an email from Sophie Walker asking for £10. I feel it's a bit of a cheek after she's refused to engage on the 'engage with us thread'.

There is also the broader issue of centring men in maternity services and reclassifying women as anyone who feels like women, but it's the lack of engagement followed by requests for cash that is irritating me right now.

ArcheryAnnie · 20/11/2015 17:29

...dare I ask, have you replied?

HamaTime · 20/11/2015 17:31

No, but I shall. Not sure if she they will get it but it doesn't say 'don't reply to this email'.

Actually it's [email protected] so sounds like a monitored account.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 20/11/2015 17:42

They tweeted that comment about everyone picking their own sex & gender on Twitter today. At which point I finally got round to unfollowing them.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 20/11/2015 18:10

I cancelled my membership last week & there was no interest in why at all. I'd already emailed them to raise the issues highlighted in this thread, asking for a debate so a consensus could be reached etc. Nowt but tumbleweed from the lack of response. But I'm still being asked to fund them too (after cancelling my membership funding...)

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 20/11/2015 18:59

I've just got that email too.

I hope somebody does read the reply. Because it was a good one, and included that I'd rather spend the £10 on actually helping women. I'm going to use it for Project Shoebox.

QueenStromba · 20/11/2015 19:09

What do they want the money for?

howtorebuild · 20/11/2015 19:28

I had an email also. £31,000 required via crowd funding, to pay for candidates in the May elections.

QueenStromba · 20/11/2015 19:41

Where's the 90k a month they're getting in subs going?

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 20/11/2015 20:56

I'm guessing their stellar PR/legal team...

HermioneWeasley · 20/11/2015 21:01

£90k a month ?!

I would have thought they'd be running on skeleton staff and volunteers.

Glad I never got round to joining!

DioneTheDiabolist · 20/11/2015 21:45

I think the priority now is now tweeting and talking to people who don't realise what the Whatever Equality Party is about. Whatever that is.

What should we tweet Empress?Confused

EldonAve · 20/11/2015 22:58

Very disappointing that they seem unable to respond to the questions on this thread

QueenStromba · 21/11/2015 00:24

WEP apparently have 45,000 members which at £2 a month each would be £90,000. Imagine the good that could be done by the likes of Women's Aid or Rape Crisis with that amount of money.

I've been using #transwomensequalityparty and #mayaswellbeUKIP while pointing out that they can do bugger all for women while they are counting women as 'anyone who feels like a woman'.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 21/11/2015 07:09

Dione, what Stromba said. If they come up on Twitter I've been pointing out that their definition of woman is meaningless and also that they supported Tara Hudson.

OddBoots · 21/11/2015 08:45

I understand that the 'whatever' bit comes from the 'yeah, whatever you say!' kind of background but anyone who didn't see how it evolved may think it is a way of dehumanising trans people. 'Whoever' may work better.

BeyondThirty · 21/11/2015 09:55

I was using it as in the teenage "wat-evaaaaaaaa" manner, but i see your point with people reading into the "what" bit, odd.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 21/11/2015 10:38

I came up with it and you're right, Whoever is better.

VestalVirgin · 22/11/2015 17:41

I am against this. I do not believe that sexual equality for some women in the workplace can or should be bought at the expense of providing appropriate high quality childhoods for children. If the policy were around a wealth transfer through taxation and non means tested benefits from those not responsible for raising DC to those responsible for raising DC then I would be in favour. As 90% of single resident parents are women this would achieve a lot more in terms of giving women choices and levelling the playing field than subsidised childcare.

Hey, no one forces you to USE the access to childcare. I agree that the work environment should be completely changed so that women can spend quality time with their own children instead of working in the patriarchy-created work environment where the default employee is male.

However, I don't think a liberal feminist party can achieve anything better than free childcare for women who need to work for a living.

In Germany, there was, for a short time, such a things as "wages" for stay at home mothers. Do you want to know how much they paid? It was around 200 Euros a month - that wouldn't even pay the rent for a one-room flat! It was just a nice gift to women who could afford to stay at home because their husbands earned enough money. Nothing more. Nothing that actually improved the life of a woman faced with the choice between working outside the house or stay at home and starve.
(It has been abolished by now, because it makes no sense - as one could have known from the beginning.)

The WEP reminds me of "Die Partei", a party founded by the editors of the satirical magazine Titanic. Die Partei had slogans such as "Overcome Contents!" and was elected to the European Parliament with their very inclusive slogan "For Europe, Against Europe".

howabout · 22/11/2015 18:41

I do not see access to childcare as any substitute for compensating those who raise children on behalf of society, whether or not they do so while participating in the workforce.

HamaTime · 22/11/2015 19:37

The bloody F word on twitter are at it now. They've suddenly started posting load of 'gender is how you feel' tweets rather than the feminist stuff they used to do.

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