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Guest post: 10 ways to keep your daughter engaged in science

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 19/06/2015 15:46

In the wake of Tim Hunt's recent explosive comments on 'girls' in laboratories, a welcome debate about women in science has been stirred up. Currently only 7% of British engineers are female, which puts the UK at the bottom of the European gender equality tables. Britain suffers from a large shortage of engineers and scientists each year, so plugging the gap by inspiring more girls into science would seem to be the obvious solution. Unfortunately here in the UK, try as we might, we just can't seem to entice enough schoolgirls into STEM (science, technology, engineering & mathematics) subjects; something needs to change.

But the key to change can't be found with the professors and university lecturers; it can't even be found in the careers advice offices of secondary schools. It lies instead with us – the parents, caregivers and teachers of primary school age children - the people who have the most influence over the next generation.

The fact is that by the age of 10 or 11 children have already formed opinions of what they can and can't do and what subjects are or aren't appropriate for them as a girl or boy. This means that all too often girls opt to drop scientific subjects after their GCSEs, and thereby forego successful and lucrative careers in science and engineering.

It's up to us as parents to ring the changes in girls' early, formative years to help ensure that the next generation of young women grow up with the confidence they need to pursue a career in science. Here are some suggestions on how you can help your girls to flourish as scientists…

1. Start early
From the first day that they are born, girls are subjected to gender stereotyping – pink princesses, cupcakes and dolls adorn their babygrows and nursery walls. As they begin to become aware of their environment, some of the very first messages they're receiving are that girls should be interested in frilly things, domestic baking and childcare, whereas boys should be interested in machines and construction. Let's forget this crazy gender segregation of babies and instead allow children to be free to develop their own interests by exposing them to a balanced mix of images from day one.

2. Buy gender-neutral toys
Next time you buy a gift for a girl, try to think objectively about the toy that you choose. Will it be reinforcing gender stereotypes or breaking them? Here are some ideas for toys that will help encourage an interest in science and engineering from an early age:
Age 0-2: Toys that help promote co-ordination and construction are ideal at this age – for example shape sorters, Mega Bloks and even toy tools.
Age 3-5: Train sets, toy vehicles, plastic magnifying glasses and construction toys all make excellent gifts for pre-school girls.
Age 6-11: Lego, a children's microscope, a science set or a subscription to a science magazine are ideal for helping to inspire young girls.
Age 11+: Microscopes or even electrical engineering sets are excellent for budding young scientists, as well as logic puzzles like Rubik's cubes.

3. Lead by example
Try to be a visible role model by taking an interest in science in the news or in the nature you find on the walk to school. Have a go at mending the washing machine – you might surprise yourself!

4. Take things apart
When a clock, a wind-up toy or even just a retractable pen stops working, instead of throwing it away, encourage your daughter to take it to pieces. Give her a screwdriver, some pliers, whatever tools she needs to get in there. It doesn't matter if she can't mend whatever was broken or even put it back together again; she'll have learnt something about the inner workings of machines and more importantly she'll have learnt that it's fine for girls to wield tools.

5. Explore together
Listen to your daughter's ideas and explanations. Respond with sincerity to her first barrage of toddler "Why?" questions and try to take every opportunity to talk to her about how things work. Encourage her to ask questions and if you don't know the answer, don't panic! Look up the answer or encourage her to experiment to discover it for herself.

6. Let her get on with it
You probably already know that when she mixes vinegar with bicarbonate of soda she's going to create a ton of bubbles, that will likely spill out of the container, but it will be so much more exciting and memorable if she discovers it for herself. Share the message that the universe is full of undiscovered things and things that scientists don't have answers for and that's what makes science so exciting!

7. Stimulate her interest with science magazines and books
It can be tricky to find science resources and ideas for fun experiments to try at home, so make sure you have a supply of child-friendly science magazines and books to turn to. Whizz Pop Bang is a monthly magazine full of interesting articles and exciting experiments for 6-11 year olds that you can sign up for here.

8. Take trips to science museums and festivals
As well as the more obvious science museums, there are also lots of other fantastic venues for discovering science - from transport museums to zoos. Family festivals are worth investigating too, as they often have science tents full of hands-on science.

9. Get out and about
Nothing beats a real science field trip. Take a magnifying glass and a notebook to draw or write about what you find. Encourage your child to look under rocks and in crevices to find tiny bugs or fungi. Look at rock formations, search for fossils or investigate seeds and flowers.

10. Discover the universe
You can find out when the International Space station will be passing over your house here. Put out a blanket in the garden on a clear evening and lie looking up at the stars and the awe-inspiringly huge universe. When you see the space station, it will be travelling at the speed of five miles every second, orbiting the earth every 90 minutes and transporting a crew of six international astronauts, busily carrying out ground-breaking experiments in space – that should inspire even the most sceptical of girls to take an interest in science!

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YesThisIsMe · 20/06/2015 13:16

As a Londoner I don't think there is a limit to the number of science related activities you can do. I'm pretty sure we do one STEM-related activity per month NHM/Science Museum/Royal Society/Imperial Festival/RFH Coding thing/pond dipping and wildlife spotting at any one of about 5 venues/Greenwich Observatory/Water and Steam Museum/London Zoo/Kew Gardens/London Transport Museum (Acton open day better than Covent Garden)/RAF Hendon/any number of one off events like the Barbican's fantastic computer art show.

Clearly not everyone can afford all of these but at least half are free.

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SirChenjin · 20/06/2015 16:09

Really interesting article. DD is nearly 16 and has just started her Higher year. She's hoping to go into a career in biological sciences; however, while she's strong in chemistry and biology, her maths skills are letting her down and that makes me doubt whether she'll even be able to apply for University. The relationship between maths and science is very strong, so would suggest that the 2 need to be looked at together, as opposed to simply trying to get more girls into science in isolation.

Bolshybookworm · 20/06/2015 17:53

In my day you chemistry was the only required subject for most biology-based degree subjects- you don't normally need maths a-level. It's a good skill to develop, however, as she will need to use maths- most bio degrees involve a fair amount of stats.
I didn't do brilliantly in my maths a level (C), but I have a first class honours and a phd from Russell gp unis (although entry requirements were lower in my day).

A tip I can give that might help your daughter is that maths is not a subject you can revise, like other subjects (ie you can't memorise it). The best way to learn maths is by practising it- going through old papers and sharpening your logic. Working through puzzles and equations. When I realised this during my a-levels, my grades went from Ds to A/Bs.

Micah · 20/06/2015 18:12

When I was at 6th form a maths teacher set up a class especially for those doing physics and chemistry, but not maths. Brilliant idea, and we had loads of fun as it was a lunchtime thing, no exams, we'd just take along our questions and discuss them.

You'd need to find an equally brilliant teacher though :)

ErrolTheDragon · 20/06/2015 18:19

Maths is even more of a requirement in the other sciences and engineering but the exam results tables show clearly that maths is not some male preserve. One thing that annoyed me in the report up thread was that apparently it's a problem that engineering is perceived to be for 'brainy boys' - and seemed like the solution was to downplay the 'brainy' rather than the 'boy' in that. Hmm

Well, some branches of engineering unequivocally are for brainy people - further maths a level is highly advisable. That may be one of the things that attracts my DD to it, she's never been exposed to the fat stinking lie that boys are brainier than girls. We shouldn't be downplaying the need for brains in fields that need them but up playing girls confidence in their abilities.

Backforgood, it's a shame your DDs school isn't being very helpful but there's a fair chance that if she'd gone to a mixed school she wouldn't even be thinking of engineering at this point (how old is she? Maybe we could share some knowledge ? Pm if you want)Confused

drinkscabinet · 20/06/2015 18:27

You must definitely be in a different field to me then drinks!

Think I am. I'm an analytical scientist and work for a biopharm CMO. The biggest employers locally to me in my field would be Covance (Harrogate), GSK (Co Durham), and Fujifilm (Teesside) but there's lots of smaller ones as well in the NE (1000 employers, 38000 jobs apparently): First for Pharma

I've got friends who work for AZ and I know the job loss in Cheshire has been devastating. It does seem daft to move from an area with low costs to the higher costs of the SE, we get people coming to us from Lonza attracted by the fact that the quality of life in the NE is so much better.

Bolshybookworm · 20/06/2015 19:28

I'll be honest, I had no idea GSK had a site in Co Durham, drinkscabinet - I'll look it up! Thanks for the article, that'll make informative reading for me. I'm still slowly trying to work my way industrywards, but as a long in the tooth postdoc, I'm trying to gain some more transferable skills first.

The drive to centralise everything seems senseless. It's happening in academia too- funding increasingly seems to go to Oxbridge/London/Manchester/Glasgow.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/06/2015 21:34

Doesn't GSK have a huge manufacturing plant in Barnard Castle? I think sometimes if you're from a more academic background you can sometimes forget all the scientists and engineers needed to make pharms and other high tech products.

MmeLindor · 20/06/2015 22:43

Great post. I've done a lot with my kids, but neither of them are particularly interested in science. DS slightly more than DD. It's all about letting kids know what is out there, and giving them the opportunity to try things out.

If anyone is looking for more science resources, I've a blog post here on more tips on getting girls into STEM here

I'm off to check out your magazine Jenny. Sounds interesting!

Athenaviolet · 21/06/2015 08:03

If getting a job in science means either the female hostile academic environment or selling your soul to big pharma I'd rather my dd didn't do it!

Are there no ethical, well paid, stable, family friendly jobs in science at all?

Is becoming a secondary science teacher the only option?

AnathemaPratchett · 21/06/2015 08:31

I can't say secondary science teacher is particularly family friendly - yes you get the holidays, but you have to work 10 hour days during term time, plus a couple at weekends, and you don't get to take time off to do assemblies etc...

AnathemaPratchett · 21/06/2015 08:33

And also in my experience STEMnet aren't particularly helpful - we requested female science ambassadors 3 years running and didn't get one...

Micah · 21/06/2015 09:01

Athena, I do think there are well paid, ethical, family friendly science jobs out there.

Problem is, they're at the top of the ladder, when you can start dictating your own terms, or can start your own company. You just have to put the 20 years of graft in first. The vast majority give up before they get there.

It's like being an actor, when you first start out its crappy bit parts and no pay. Get lucky and do well in your field and you're laughing. The risk is you may never get lucky and spend your entire career doing the crappy bit parts.

The way science jobs are run too- the nhs can close your department, cancer research can withdraw your grant. Pharma up and relocates, or closes your project if it's not profitable and moves you to another. Jobs aren't very stable.

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manicscience77 · 21/06/2015 09:51

@whizzpopbangmag - i think its great that you are launching a kids science magazine! Good luck with the kickstarter! As someone who graduated in a Science degree & went on to work in lab research I have first hand experience of the poor pay. But back then I had no real idea of the career options available to me - my parents are immigrants and thought the only careers worth having were Medicine or Pharmacy. It is my daughter who reminded me how much i loved science (she asked for a science birthday party a few years ago).

@errollthedragon - completely agree about skills shortage.

What do we do? I think it is important for parents to get the kids involved in Science out of school. I run a company called Manic Science - we run science & Tech Summer Camps - residential & non-residential for kids 7 to teens. ( manicscience.com ) Just as importantly we raise awareness of the jobs available involving science from apprenticeships to degree to phd level - the jobs available in industry, manufacturing and business. It is our companies mission to make Science & Tech a fun extra curricular activity kids & families can get involved in.

We also run a separate "Code Club for Girls" - sometimes we get questioned why the gender split and frowned upon. My answer would be we are the "Brownies" and "Girl Guides" and "WI" of the digital & tech age! If bath bombs and pink gets some girls to develop an interest in science & tech & programming so be it. We offer modules such as "Mini Pet Design" - but in it we cover rapid prototyping, some coding & 3D printing. It will appeal to some girls - on the other hand to some girls a "Minecraft Python module" will appeal. Each to their own!

At our camps we also run a "Scientist in Training" module for the older teens who assist with the delivering of our modules. Here we are trying to tackle the issue of teen girls staying in science.

We were @thebigbang in Darlington last week & our stand was next to the RAF - amazing opportunities in Science & Engineering with them.

I could go on ... but in short i think to his detriment Tim Hunts comments have thrown the issue of Women in Science into the spotlight! A little controversy, discussion & raising awareness is always a good thing :-)

Guest post: 10 ways to keep your daughter engaged in science
Guest post: 10 ways to keep your daughter engaged in science
Guest post: 10 ways to keep your daughter engaged in science
YesThisIsMe · 21/06/2015 10:14

One advantage of going to festivals staffed by working academics showing off their research (like Imperial Festival, Royal Society and Great British Bioscience) is that the stalls are often staffed by lovely young female researchers, trendy, charming, outgoing, representing a wide range of looks and types, disproving all those negative preconceptions. There's every role model your DD could ask for right there, and not in an artificial pre-selected "Women In Science" way, (I can see why that's sometimes necessary but it can backfire) but just happening to be there doing their job. DD is 12 so the women on the stalls are closer to her age than mine and very relatable. It makes it clear to a preteen girl that there is a place for someone like her (even if the female staff only represent about a quarter not half the total it doesn't matter as long as they're not a tiny minority).

SirChenjin · 21/06/2015 10:52

Just coming back to this...

Far more boys take maths at Higher/A level than girls. Imo, the 2 subjects cannot be taken in isolation - if you want more girls to go into science then we need to look at the way maths is taught - and linked - to science. I'm also a bit sceptical about the idea that maths/science = brainy. Again, if we want to encourage more girls into it then we should be making it accessible to a wide rsnge of academic backgounds, with exposure to the wide rsnge of scientific careers. My son is off to University to study engineering - I don't subscribe to the idea that he's a 'brainy boy', more that he is interested in maths/physics.

SirChenjin · 21/06/2015 10:54

Excuse typos/grammar

AnathemaPratchett · 21/06/2015 11:05

2fedup - I think it's more where we are - south west and rural. And yes we asked for a whole day so an entire year group could meet them, but we just didn't get a human reply!

RaisingSteam · 21/06/2015 18:50

I honestly can't recommend any heavy industry if you want family friendly policies I hope and fear this is anecdotal!

The heavy industries / oil rigs/construction sites side of engineering is very much only one aspect and there are plenty more roles and jobs that are essentially office based and potentially flexible. I know because I work in one them. I'm not super highly paid but I get a reasonable professional salary.

Girls who take technical subjects at school are opening up opportunities, not closing them. By the time family friendly is an issue they will have had a chance to steer their career, if they choose, to accommodate it. Also the more women in the industry, the more flexibility becomes possible for all parents. Even if they eventually don't want to do science or engineering, STEM graduates are in massive demand for all kinds of other grad careers.

It would be great if there was more crossover of boys into traditionally female careers, but there is a shortage in STEM from apprentice to graduate. One doesn't exclude the other.

bruffin · 21/06/2015 20:23

Dd had pink pastel lego andbis proud of it and inherited it from her cousins ( I bought it for them as a present) . Sadly they stopped real girly lego by the time dd came along. Gender Nuetral toys are nonsense. If they want to play princesses let them. Let them be who they want to be not what you think.
DN has her own cgi company and has a degree in computer science. Dd is taking physics and biology at A level but wants to be an Occupational Therapist, so not a scientist but a job that she has wanted to do for a longtime. Ds is following in dh footsteps and will be an engineer

AnathemaPratchett · 21/06/2015 22:32

Why are gender neutral toys nonsense? Having gender neutral toys doesn't mean you don't allow dressing up - just that why have gender where you don't need it? You don't need gender specific paper, or crayons, or construction toys...

drinkscabinet · 21/06/2015 23:06

LEGO friends seems pretty 'girly' and my two DDs have spent the day building Elsa's ice palace out of LEGO, part of the new Disney Princess LEGO range. I think most people would describe Disney Princesses as 'girly'. So I'm not quite sure why you think LEGO doesn't make 'girly' bricks any more.

madwomanbackintheattic · 21/06/2015 23:06

Ds1 likes the pink Lego as well. Actually he learned to walk in Barbie dressing up shoes. The 'gender neutral' thing doesn't have to mean that you ban pink. Just that you don't force your girls to play with pink stuff and ban the boys form doing so (and vice versa with anything related to trains, hammers or that only comes in blue). It's great marketing though. Buy the same toys twice for different sex siblings and waste more money you don't have...

Given that this is an advert for girls in science, I'll forgive the op for that, though. I'm sure if she was selling a magazine trying to get more men involved in stay at home childcare she would be promoting buying gender neutral toy cleaning equipment, play ovens and dolls for her sons. Grin