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Why I wear the niqab

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MumsnetGuestBlogs · 16/10/2013 10:58

The common impression that people have about women who wear the niqab is that they are forced to do so by their spouses or society, and are therefore oppressed. They are also believed to be uneducated, passive - kept behind closed doors, and not integrated within British society.

These negative prejudices are just that, though they are presented as facts - widely accepted, and promoted by cynical politicians every so often. Although I prefer not to be apologetic in my approach, I always find myself having to explain my choice to wear the niqab, in the hope that I can raise awareness, challenge misperceptions and help promote mutual respect.

To understand the niqab, it helps to understand the religion behind it. Islam has three simple messages – liberation from worshipping anything but the one God; following in the way of His Prophets including Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace be upon them; and servitude to the whole of humanity. Islam’s practical acts of liberation are many – from the duty of environmentalism (protecting ‘the Creation’ from the excesses of humankind) to the imperative of modesty for both women and men – one part of which is the face-veil.

In my view, the authentic reading of Scripture does not deem the niqab as compulsory, but rather as highly recommended: the wives of the prophet Muhammad used to wear it, and they are my role models.

Therefore the niqab is a religious symbol - and wearing it is considered by many Muslim women as an act of worship. Certainly the niqab is a spiritual journey that not many will take or understand, but those women who choose to wear it, such as myself, believe that it brings them closer to God, their Creator.

I also find the niqab liberating and dignifying; it gives me a sense of strength and empowers me. Deciding to wear it wasn’t easy - I had to go against my wishes of my parents, who discouraged me from wearing it because they feared I would face discrimination. But since I started wearing it, over 10 years ago, I have never changed my decision, nor have I ever found it a barrier. I continued my education to postgraduate level, and am now a professional molecular geneticist. Never once did I feel that the niqab prevented me from adding value to our British society – I’m involved in many community projects and events, and hold leadership positions in community organisations.

Some claim that women choose to wear the niqab do so due to social constraints and conditioning. This might be applicable to some extent in countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran, where individuals have to behave in a certain way for social approval (which can include wearing the face-veil). But in Britain, face-veiled women are minority within a minority – numbering perhaps just 0.001% of the total Muslim population in the UK (no statistics are available on this issue). Wearing the niqab is not so common within the British Muslim community that social conditioning could play any significant role: in Britain the majority of these women wear the niqab as a personal choice.

The norms of any society are the sum of its collective values, so rather than talking about the role of social conditioning in relation to face-veiled women, let’s talk about those norms. Public freedom is a cherished value in the UK, and is part of the fabric of our society. It allows individuals the right to practice and articulate their religious freedoms and rights – and offers a woman total freedom of choice to decide what she wears. Women who wear the niqab are simply articulating those religious and personal freedoms – and we cannot risk undermining them for the sake of social imaginaries, deep-seated psychological fears, or ignorance.

There are claims that the niqab is a 'security threat', but such claims are overblown. With regards to the issue of security, particularly the wearing of the niqab in court, let’s be clear that Muslim women are allowed to take off their veils, particularly in the pursuit of justice. But there’s no common approach and each case should be dealt with individually, in a manner that ensures the preservation of these women’s dignity and rights. These women are not committing any crime; they must be treated as human beings with full rights to participate equally in civil society, and to access education.

The reason, I believe, that the niqab debate has progressed this far is that there exists a wide range of far-right movements, politicians and intellectuals across the spectrum who seek to promote the hysteria that fuels anti-Muslim hatred. These people hope to make the face-veiled Muslim women emblematic of a sinister 'Other', a ‘problem’ impossible to solve or accept.

We have to overcome this authoritarian mentality which assumes a right to interfere in the lives, appearances and thoughts of other people. We all have so much to offer each other and we should extend our tolerance to respect, not merely for individuals, but for their beliefs as well. Otherwise, by all clamouring to enforce our own ideologies on the women we seek to “liberate”, we will be contributing to their collective oppression. Indeed, attempts to ban the niqab will marginalise face-veiled women from participating in public life.

It’s time to go beyond words, and to pursue peace, prosperity and freedom through social, political and interfaith harmony - seeking compassionate justice for everyone, and protecting freedom of the individual.

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GoshAnneGorilla · 17/10/2013 15:23

SDT - you do realise that only a small, small number of women wear niqab, probably less then 500 maximum. It really isn't the big societal issue it is being made out to be, nor should it be held up as a reason to view Muslims as outsiders in society, when so few of them actually wear it.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 17/10/2013 15:23

I don't agree with the posters saying that it is hard to communicate with women wearing the niqab. It is perfectly possible to communicate by talking/listening - how else do we manage on the phone, when we can't even see the other person's eyes? That argument seems a bit specious to me.

I agree that it should not be banned and that it is the wearer's right to wear it, in the same way that people can choose to be pierced/tattooed/wear a nun's habit/wear hotpants etc etc.

I am uncomfortable with the idea of Muhammed, aged 52, marrying a 6 year-old no matter what the cultural norms of the time were or what she went on to do in later life.

QueenoftheSarf · 17/10/2013 15:29

At the end of the day arguments here go around in circles ad infinitum.

The way I look at it, religious people of all persuasions, irrespective of how many degrees or doctorates they may be in possession of, have incredibly closed minds. It is, after all surely, the very essence of religious faith that adherents of any faith can't and won't be persuaded of another viewpoint that conflicts with what they've been told.

In their private lives, these people have to be left alone to believe whatever they want, to do whatever they feel religiously obliged to do, to not eat whatever it is they don't want to eat, and to wear whatever they want to wear.

To me, religion is personal thing and wearing the niqab or burka is a personal matter. Women should be left to exercise their own personal choice to wear these things. Many orthodox Jewish women also cover their hair but do so by wearing wigs but because that not so noticeable it does not attract comment.

However, if the wearing of full face coverings, or the carrying out of any other religious ritual for that matter, infringes upon the rights and freedoms of others in the public sphere of life, then that is another matter entirely.

I for one do not think that Jehova's Witnessness should be allowed to trespass on to other people's property and harass them by trying to engage them in pointless conversation of a spiritual nature, irrespective of the fact that they consider this to be one of their religious obligations. A perfect example of one person's religious beliefs infringing on the rights of others.

UptheChimney · 17/10/2013 15:48

shreddedHoops

I take your points, and they're mostloy strong ones, but this

standards of societal Modesty are there to assist women with clothing choices and men understand how the woman may be feeling

worries me. Why is the focus on what women do, or how they dress or behave?

Why don't we require that men learn to guard their eyes and quell their lustful thoughts?

lazysleepymummy · 17/10/2013 15:52

Here is a bit of communication science for you.

There are three elements in face-to-face communications:

  • words
  • tone of voice
  • non-verbal behaviours such as facial expressions, body language

Well-regarded research shows that in communications, literal meanings of words only account for 7% of what we take in, tone of voice account for 38% and non-verbal behaviours account for 55%. People often look from congruency in three channels of communication, and will dismiss the literal meaning of the words if the tone and behaviour send a different message. We rely so much on facial expression, it's only natural that we find it hard to communicate or even trust people covering up their faces.

So tell me again how does covering up your face have no effect on communication whatsoever?

nicename · 17/10/2013 15:52

I was googling the whole deaf issue and found an article by a moroccan muslim woman. She said that women still get sexually harassed wearing the veil as they would without.

The veil is an ancient piece of clothing from a time, culture and society pretty far away from London 2013, and I've met a few white british born women covered to varying degrees.

A practising muslim friend of mine (born and bred in the ME) asked one convert (in genuine confusion) 'why have you dressed up like an arab?'. The reply was 'we' this and 'we' that, and my friend said 'don't you realise that there are a lot of 'us'? Your 'we' is actually 'my husband thinks... What do you think?'.

nicename · 17/10/2013 15:58

I'm assuming studies on communication were carried out in non-veiled societies. I'm thinking that in places where a covered face outside the home, communication adapts?

peacefuloptimist · 17/10/2013 16:04

So why is it a common choice for women in Islamic countries?

Have you not been reading anything I have written or many of the other posters. It is not a common choice. There are a minority of women in muslim countries wearing niqab just like there is a minority of muslim women in the West wearing it.

My twopennyworth of an opinion is that women in Islamic countries who wear niqab are in far more traditional roles, ie looking after the home and children, so don't need to be dressed appropriately for work. They don't go out socialising with non family members. They don't go out dancing. In Saudi Arabia they are not even considered able to drive. They live less full lives than male members of society. Men are in positions of power - government and so on.

This is all fantasy. Where is your evidence? Your just speculating about how you think it is. The truth is it is probably much easier for a niqabi woman in a muslim country to work then it is here. It is probably easier for them to socialise with others and go out dancing (although again with women) then it is for them here. I know a few women who live in Saudi Arabia who do work. One of them is a lecturer in a university and she actually had her PhD sponsored by the Saudi government who sent her to the UK to complete her qualifications with a guarantee of a job on her return. I also have seen doctors, teachers and nurses etc who wear niqab in muslim countries. The video below gives some more examples of what life for Saudi women is actually like so you dont need to rely on your imagination.

The fact is in many countries in the Muslim world you will find that women have overtaken men in higher education. In Kuwait, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates, nearly two thirds of all university students are women. They are making an especially strong showing in Science, Technology, Environmental, and Mathematics (STEM) areas. In fact I remember reading a statistic somewhere that more women go to university in Qatar then they do in the UK. Here is a list of the 100 most powerful arab women. Look at the diversity of fields in which they work.

100 Most powerful Arab women

My point is this is not about religion causing women to be held back as many posters are suggesting. There are many Muslim women who feel empowered by their religion to achieve their potential, to make a difference, to improve their lives. However just like women here face problems dealing with a very entrenched and powerful patriarchy so to do we have problems in the Muslim world (though it is of a different nature). However if you speak to Muslim women often you will hear them saying the same thing which is that the problem is not Islam the problem is culture. As women we should listen and support eachother to deal with injustice against us rather then trying to belittle others life choices as Ola so eloquently enacted.

BackOnlyBriefly · 17/10/2013 16:06

"GoshAnneGorilla Thu 17-Oct-13 12:56:17
that is very odd. Niqab sits on the face, so I have no idea how it affects hearing. I wear hijab and my hearing is fine."

Just to help you out I thought I'd point out that while 'niqab' may technically refer to just the veil most people seem to be referring to the whole costume which covers the head and body and therefore does hamper hearing.

I guess from your comment that you do not wear the head covering too so were unaware of the problem.

AnnieLobeseder · 17/10/2013 16:08

One thing I'd like to ask the OP is: if wearing the niqab is nothing to do with modestly and not "distracting" men and everything to do with just being closer to god, why do you only wear it when men can see you? Why is it okay to take it off in front of strange women but not okay to take it off in front of men?

Because this very clause makes it very clear that it's not about women distancing themselves a bit from society in order to be closer to god, it's about women distancing themselves from men. Which makes it completely a feminist and sexist issue.

Zra · 17/10/2013 16:13

Clearly women in niqab are seen as a threat reading all the posts on here, a challenge to feminist values that we have all grown up on.

I've met a few niqab wearers and visited their homes. They are just as normal as anybody else with their own set of challenges just like you and I. They choose to wear niqab when they leave their homes. The ones I know chose to do it for religious reasons, that's their call. I wear hijab and never has a niqab wearer looked down on me for being 'less pious'.

How many doctors or public figures wearing niqab have you met? I've yet to meet one before I can say it's problematic. I'm sure that public bodies will address this challenge if we suddenly have an influx of niqab wearing doctors, teachers etc on the grounds of health and safety! I somehow doubt that this is going to happen though.

Let our niqab wearing fellow females be. If they are being forced to wear niqab help them out, although I doubt many of us on this thread want to even communicate with them.

GoshAnneGorilla · 17/10/2013 16:21

Back - hijab is the headscarf covering. It covers my ears, yet as it is a thin layer of fabric, I can hear perfectly well and have certainly had no problems in educational or work environments.

Judging by the significant proportion of hijab wearers employed by the organisation I work for, a lot of people would say the same.

lazysleepymummy · 17/10/2013 16:28

Funny enough the main researcher about the 7%-38%-55% rule is born in an Armenian family in Iran, so you'd think he is at least vaguely aware of this issue.
Perhaps people living in communities where everyone covers their faces adapt, but then in British society I for one certainly haven't adapted

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/10/2013 16:33

Can I ask where you get the figure of only 500 women in the UK wearing the niqab, please, GoshAnne.

TooExtra - of course it is possible to communicate when you can't see someone's face, but being able to see someone's facial expression does facilitate better communication and understanding.

Perhaps someone can clear something up for me. I have the impression that, in general, the members of the Muslim community prefer to stay apart from western society. I want to be wrong about this.

nicename · 17/10/2013 16:40

Women in Iran don't cover their face - it is not part of the culture there ('tis an Arab thing). One relative does cover more than the necessary (in Iran) and even she wears patterns and colours but doesn't cover her face. She judges less covered women, boy does she judge. And as for her thoughts on western women (not that she's actually met many)... It's all about education, isn't it?

I don't like to see a covered face. It's not what we are used to here in the UK. Culturally, its not what a law abiding person has done - to cover your face it to hide your identity. A mask is that - it masks. It throws up a barrier - why?

UptheChimney · 17/10/2013 16:52

Let our niqab wearing fellow females be

Yes, of course. I had a GP who wore the headscraf hijab and that was fine. I saw her face clearly and she was a good GP.

It doesn't mean I cannot or should not criticise the ideology behind hijab or niqab wearing. I find the ideology offensive: misogynist and illiberal.

Not the women.

peacefuloptimist · 17/10/2013 16:54

I think this communication point is a bit of a red herring. As TooExtra already mentioned we communicate on the phone with people who we cannot see fine. Right now we are all communicating without seeing eachother and yet we are able to understand eachother and have a conversation without any trouble. When I was at university I had a friend who wore niqab. In our friendship group there were a few girls who were non-muslim and when we were alone she would remove it but in mixed company she would cover. I use to always wonder in the past whether they had difficulty communicating with her but if they did they definitely didnt show it. You can still pick up on non-verbal communication cues if you are observant. We can convey a lot of emotion through our eyes. Also a persons body language can still be interpreted without seeing their face. Most posters here admit to not knowing m/any niqabis. If you had just one niqabi friend you would realise that its not the barrier to communication that you think it is.

sarahtigh · 17/10/2013 16:57

communication is a lot about non verbal communication as above research shows which is why phone conversations are not as good as face to face discussions as by facial bodily expressions something said face to face can seem less or more of an insult than same words on a phone,

short emails and texts are even worse for people getting hold of wrong end of the stick and mis-interpreting

radio because no visual stimuli allows for more imagination but not necessarily more accuracy it is also generally harder to say nasty things face to face than on phone/ email or online

this at least in part explains internet trolls etc who say things online they would never dream of saying face to face

many people especially those with some deafness (about 50%+ of over 50's) rely to a great or lesser extent on lip reading/ visual signals

in a meeting /lecture/ sermon people who can not see the speaker generally report hearing less clearly

I am not saying it is an insurmountable or even difficult communication problem but to say not seeing the speakers face makes no difference whatsoever is misguided at best and probably simply untrue

on a earlier thread a niqab wearing nurse said she would remove if it was hindering communication hence the acknowledgment it can hinder good communication in some circumstances

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 17/10/2013 17:01

It may hinder communication but it is up to the person if they want to make the extra effort to make themselves understood.

I could in theory learn sign to help deaf people but I never have. No one has ever questioned my right to not bother

AveryJessup · 17/10/2013 17:03

It's funny how so many Muslim women seem to suddenly want to feel closer to Allah since September 11th and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq...

Sorry to be so cynical but these face veils were never seen in our countries except in the last 10 years (although they have existed in Islamic countries for generations) which leads me to believe that the niqab and other extremes of Islamic dress are political, not religious, statements. Women who wear them in Western countries are the very opposite of modest piety. They are doing it for reasons of social statement, attention-seeking and rebelling against the idea of integration with Western values. As other posters have pointed out a lot of the niqab wearers are young second or third generation immigrants or converts to Islam.

The author's professions of deep religious piety don't convince me in the slightest. She has the right to dress how she wishes of course but don't insult our intelligence by pretending your motives are innocent of any political or social statement.

AveryJessup · 17/10/2013 17:06
  • 'in some Islamic countries' that should read
nicename · 17/10/2013 17:08

I have problems with my hearing - so if there is background noise I just can't hear a voice very well. So if I'm in a restaurant, cafe, shop, street etc I struggle to hear someone spoeaking below a yell. This means that I watch lips and lean into people. It was a long time before I realised that it wasn't everyone!

My dad was partially deaf, as are some other members of my family, and one was completely deaf. It is hard to follow conversations often and not being able to see lips or lean in really close (I guess my dad wouldnt be welcome leaning into someones face) would be really hard for me.

GoshAnneGorilla · 17/10/2013 17:08

SDT - be clear. Is it just niqab wearers you think want to be apart from society or all Muslims?

As for figures, in countries such as Belgium and France, when they began their niqab bans, they found less than 100 and about 400 women respectively wore niqab. I doubt the UK figures are much higher. It is all very much a storm in a tea cup.

AnnieLobeseder · 17/10/2013 17:09

I have to say, I can see the attraction of the niqab - so much pressure is put on women to look a certain way, we're all under constant pressure/scrutiny, and our achievement are judged secondary to our appearance. To hide from it all must be bliss.

But that's the coward's way out IMO. It's giving in, not fighting back. Though just imagine, for a minute, how the men of the world would react if all of a sudden, every single woman refused to engage with their objectification and covered herself from head to toe. Grin It would be awesome!!!

AnnieLobeseder · 17/10/2013 17:11

(just for a day or two as a social experiment/political statement, you understand, not that I think all women should hide away from men on a permanent basis. That would be silly)